FresnoHawk68 wrote: ducks41468 wrote: FresnoHawk68 wrote: Fade wrote:
Russell Wilson throws interceptions at the 6th lowest rate in NFL History. Having done that behind bottom of the barrel offensive lines for his entire career. No QB could ever do this for 9 seasons, given the degree of difficulty. Fiction can be fun, but i like to stick with the facts. When you look at the statistical company he keeps pace with, and add the amount of games he's won, then you would know why he's a HoFer. How many franchise QBs have been drafted over the last 5 years, out of how many QBs drafted? If it was guaranteed sign me up. But it isn't, far from it.
Building properly around the Franchise QB you already have is a much easier prospect. Blame the mismanagers not the QB who has to clean up the mess, and then get mad because he cannot pull the rabbit out of the hat every time, propping up what has been a failed process for YEARS.
Nah I’m done with Russ the Arizona game proved to me his best is behind him. But if you want ti call him a HOFer I’m cool with that, it’s going to get us better trade value.
Fact Justin Fields is a better prospect than RW was. Is Justin Fields the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or 5th best QB in this draft? We have lots of options looking from afar. Hopefully Schneider has targeted at least 2 guys. Loved the fact Schneider was on the hunt for Mahomes & Josh Allen and only those 2 QB’s.
You're putting an awful lot of faith in this team being able to immediately draft a high-end starting quality QB right off the bat, when history shows that teams are overwhelmingly incapable of doing so. Even after the Colts ended up with Luck shortly after Manning they never accomplished anything and ran him into the ground.
Like your absolute upside is that you get another Wilson and end up back in the same position you were in with Wilson to begin with, while the downside is that you spend two decades trying to get back to the playoffs at all after sacrificing 5 years of Wilson. It's not like you're trading Wilson for an immediate upgrade to a 23 year old Brady who's going to win you 6 SB's. There are decades of history that prove that finding and then winning with a generational QB is virtually impossible, given that even guys like Brees and Rodgers have the same number of SB wins as $h!t old Wilson
Yes I’m putting faith in Schneider & Carrol! The timing must be perfect! There must be a QB or 2 that they believe will be better than RW. I suspect this draft is a draft where Seattle could source RW’s replacement, if not keep RW. I suspect RW is upset because Pete & John want him upset so he will waive his “no trade” clause.
32 Teams have thought this same thing over the years. Ask the Broncos how easy that is, ask the Browns how easy that is, ask the Jets how easy that is, ask the Bills, Vikings, and the list goes on and on.
There is more to a QB then being on a team that has personnel head and shoulders above their competition, They don't get pressured and think under duress as much, they can be sloppy, they can let others lead.
Lets look at the Great QB's recently, Brady, not a athlete, more a statue. Same could be said for Manning, but they have guile, smarts, quick thinking.
Then Farve, not the sharpest tool in the shed about a lot of things, but was middle of the road athletically but had a knack of challenging the odds and paying off, had a factor that got everyone playing at a higher level, got by on guts and an arm many times.
Montana's and Young's history is well documented, but they were leaders and had the it factor as well, not physically above the rest other then Young being mobile and both unflinchingly tough and could make microsecond decisions.
Measuring Heart and toughness is almost impossible, measuring guile and the IT factor really hard to do unless you look past measurables and see the way a team respects and rallies and plays up a level for that guy. Measuring processing, reaction, and execution speed is the hardest because it varies by situation. The greats have this ability and it's all very fast.
Why Kurt Warner was able to succeed, really fast processing ability to execution.