You can call me a lot of things. A hater of Carroll is not one of them.
Carroll frustrates me because he is squandering Wilson. At least to this viewpoint. And yes, I am very angry at him for taking advantage of Jody to consolidate his power while letting it get to this point with Wilson.
He should KNOW that Wilson matters more than he does right now.
Yes, Carroll deserved the benefit of the doubt for delivering a SuperBowl.
But we have a top QB, assured HOF. How long does this benefit last?
Does Pete get a pass every year, even though every year is less Wilson we have to work with ?
Because he had several passes already...
Earlier, considering the issue with Jody, no matter the frustration - my argument was we had to keep Pete. Because the chance our ownership would push to hire a tremendous coach would be low. You had to keep Carroll. But, if Wilson does not want him, there is no future with Carroll. There MIGHT be one with Wilson. (Understanding that is only a maybe. But still better than assured failure with Carroll)
In terms of Carroll though:
It is clear he is a good guy. He is a person that cares about the players and likely people not even on the field. He is relentlessly positive and (for a while) people will run through walls for him. Everyone loves him as a person, or most do.
He projects to be an amazing human being.
But as a football coach he produces less with more. He is steeped in outdated worthless philosophies and gameplans. He is borderline incompetent in some areas and ridiculously lacking in others. He hires friends and family then refuses to hold them accountable. He struggles at even basic coaching 101 things and no longer delivers the defenses that made up for those shortcomings. Great human being. Garbage HC without his LOB.
And it wouldn't matter if he was the 2nd coming of Paul Brown - Wilson does not want him and he is too old to be around for any kind of rebuild without Wilson. He isn't the kind of coach that can use Wilson to the best of his ability. Wilson is our best asset and resource - so why bother with Carroll then?
"Carroll frustrates me because he is squandering Wilson"
This is the only problem I have with your side or fans on this side of this Pete/Wilson issue. This statement right here is treated as fact or an absolute and is neither. It is an opinion, which is perfectly fine. Not everyone shares that opinion of this dynamic.
A lot of it seems to come from the analytics side of how offenses are viewed these days in the NFL and what the most efficient way to operate an offense is in the modern game. The evolution of the passing game might be the best way to run an offense when viewed from that angle, but that only holds true if you assume that every QB has an equal ability to execute that style of offense. QBs have different abilities and you as a coach have to evaluate those abilities and come to the approach that you think fits. You and others obviously think Russell is capable, but it appears that Pete is not entirely sold on that.
Where would you put Russell vs Brees? Where would you put Pete vs Sean Payton? Are Russ and better than those 2? One better than the other? Did Payton also squander Brees? The way I see it, if you think Pete is wasting Russell, than you have to think Payton wasted Brees. And, if you think Brees is better than Russell in their respective primes executing a pass heavy approach, what makes you think Russell's results will be any better over his career as far as playoff/SB success? I could ask the same for Rodgers. Now if you think Russell is better than both, OK, I see your point as you see it, but I would disagree.