No Respect !
Bleacher Report just came out with NFL's top 7 receivers. DK is #6. Tyler did not even make honorable mention nor anykind of mention?
Palmegranite wrote:I've never seen a ball bounce off Lockett's hands or facemask. Like never. He's not perfect. But TL generally catches the ball when it matters.
I don't think bleacher report watches Seahawks games.
12th Dimension wrote:I like Tyler’s skill set but he doesn’t get YAC and can’t get the extra yard when needed. We knew that given his size/weight coming in. He’s a nice receiver with limitations.
Seanhawk wrote:12th Dimension wrote:I like Tyler’s skill set but he doesn’t get YAC and can’t get the extra yard when needed. We knew that given his size/weight coming in. He’s a nice receiver with limitations.
See I think he can. He was a hell of a punt returner when he came in. The problem is he makes no attempt. Like none. I can see running, then getting down if contact is imminent. But he drops to the ground immediately after making the catch most of the time. It's very frustrating.
Spin Doctor wrote:I'm going to say something unpopular, I think Tyler Lockett is grossly overrated around here. Lockett is a very good receiver, don't go me wrong but he is not a top 10 type of receiver. He isn't a receiver that teams fear nor is he a guy teams have to shift their coverage over to contain. He's a good route runner, with good hands -- he is a possession receiver. Very much so a Bobby Engram sort of player and you know what? That is alright. He doesn't have to be a mega threat.
DK Metcalf is 100 percent a better receiver. He isn't as polished as Lockett, nor is he as reliable, but there is something you all should have noticed last season. Teams were shifting their coverage towards his side, accounting for him on every snap and keeping eyes on him. I've never seen teams game plan for Lockett in the same way and that should tell you something. His drops are frustrating, yes but he absolutely makes it easier for every player on the Seahawks to operate. He has the ability to take a short yardage pass in turn it into a big gain. He has the ability to punish a CB for even the slightest misstep and take it to the house. Metcalf made fools out of some of the best CBs in the business in one on one coverage situations.
Lockett also tends to disappear for long stretches of time and get banged up. Lockett is a good receiver, and he is quite possibly the best number 2 in the game. That being said he isn't a top 10 receiver. He's a negative asset when it comes to YAC, he isn't necessarily great at the jump ball, and he tends to disappear at times. Lockett is a great route runner with good hands. He is a possession receiver that moves the chains. He's really good at what he does, but he's not a player that demands the same sort of micromanaging from defenses that DK does.
Jville wrote:Having a mix of receiver types on the same team is a big advantage. It provides opportunities to exploit favorable week to week match ups.
AgentDib wrote:Jville wrote:Having a mix of receiver types on the same team is a big advantage. It provides opportunities to exploit favorable week to week match ups.
While this is optimal the problem of course is that there's only so much money to go around. If Metcalf continues to develop and appears worth a top dollar extension then we left in the unenviable position of realizing that no team can afford a top paid QB and two top paid WRs.
Russ had a $35.0m OTC valuation last season and his cap hit this next year is $32m.
Tyler had a $13.7m OTC valuation last season and his cap hit this next year is $15m.
DK had a $17.4m OTC valuation last season and his cap hit this next year is $1.3m.
They are three of our best players but that doesn't look possible to manage in 2022 and Tyler is on expiring contract so if he has trade value that's a prudent move to make now.
Cyrus12 wrote:Tyler is the Bobby Engram of this team. He has the most reliable hands on the core and doesn't get the respect he deserves.
scutterhawk wrote:Cyrus12 wrote:Tyler is the Bobby Engram of this team. He has the most reliable hands on the core and doesn't get the respect he deserves.
You are exactly right Cyrus, he is a Bobby Engram clone, but all some folks see is the FLASHY and DK undoubtedly has that in spades.
I'm hoping that DK will become more clutch as he gathers more experience & tricks of the trade...He reeks with confidence, but Engram..er I mean Lockett by far, has the softer hands.
Tical21 wrote:Tyler is lowkey washed.
DarkVictory23 wrote:I do think Lockett lost something since that injury, it's obvious, but DK Metcalf is not the better overall receiver right now.
If I'm in a situation where the Seahawks need a first down, I'm looking to Tyler before DK. Simple as that and I think anyone ranking a receiver on that basis puts Tyler first.
That said, DK has far more potential going forward than Tyler. So I mean, if this is a 'forward looking' type list, then DK Metcalf is who you go with. If it's a list of 'who's going to get you a first down TODAY?' it's Lockett.
SwissCheese77 wrote:Tical21 wrote:Tyler is lowkey washed.
I do have a little sneaky suspicion that he isn't getting the separation that he used to. But I don't have the All-22 or enough analytics at my disposal to look into that.
If anyone who does wants to dive into that, I think it would be really interesting to see. Because I've got to imagine that some part of our passing game sputtering was our guys lot getting open.
toffee wrote:I don't recall too many games, if any, that DK and Lockett both excelled in the same game. It was an either or ... Never both.
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jeremiah wrote:Jville wrote:
Enough said, TL is a better team mate than DK because he never disappoints and he catches the ball.
Who is in the HOF? the guys who catch everything thrown their way. DK is a long way from that, and frankly could never reach that place. Lockett in my book is top dawg in the homeless....I mean Emerald City.