Keep your eyes on Detriot!

FresnoHawk68":1ewqf1t8 said:

There’s no guarantee Jared Goff stays in Detriot! Detriot could easily trade him and the acquiring team could immediately cut Goff! According to OTC If Goff is traded by Detriot, Detriot loses nothing! OTC could be wrong and Detriot eats 17 Million if they trade Goff but they got 2 round 1’s and a 3rd for Goff.

Detriot’s cap situation isn’t bad so why are they trading back up QB Chase Daniels if they’re going to draft a QB at #7 or in round #2? Daniels is a great QB mentor.

Is Detriot really going to start Goff at 28 Million a year? Or would they trade for Derek Carr who is an upgrade over Stafford? Carr has two years left on his contract 19 Million per year!

Detriot trades picks 2021 #7 & 2022 Rams 1st round pick to the Raiders for Derek Carr.

Raiders send 4 or 5 1st round picks to Seattle for RW. Seattle trades for Darnold! Seattle could trade Bobby Wager to the Jets for Sam Darnold & 2nd round pick #34. Same deal trade Tyler Lockett for Sam Darnold and pick #66 or pick the 3rd round pick.

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FresnoHawk68":1cq8pbex said:

There’s no guarantee Jared Goff stays in Detriot! Detriot could easily trade him and the acquiring team could immediately cut Goff! According to OTC If Goff is traded by Detriot, Detriot loses nothing! OTC could be wrong and Detriot eats 17 Million if they trade Goff but they got 2 round 1’s and a 3rd for Goff.

Detriot’s cap situation isn’t bad so why are they trading back up QB Chase Daniels if they’re going to draft a QB at #7 or in round #2? Daniels is a great QB mentor.

Is Detriot really going to start Goff at 28 Million a year? Or would they trade for Derek Carr who is an upgrade over Stafford? Carr has two years left on his contract 19 Million per year!

Detriot trades picks 2021 #7 & 2022 Rams 1st round pick to the Raiders for Derek Carr.

Raiders send 4 or 5 1st round picks to Seattle for RW. Seattle trades for Darnold! Seattle could trade Bobby Wager to the Jets for Sam Darnold & 2nd round pick #34. Same deal trade Tyler Lockett for Sam Darnold and pick #66 or pick the 3rd round pick.

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flv":2xcpirw9 said:

FresnoHawk68":2xcpirw9 said:

There’s no guarantee Jared Goff stays in Detriot! Detriot could easily trade him and the acquiring team could immediately cut Goff! According to OTC If Goff is traded by Detriot, Detriot loses nothing! OTC could be wrong and Detriot eats 17 Million if they trade Goff but they got 2 round 1’s and a 3rd for Goff.

Detriot’s cap situation isn’t bad so why are they trading back up QB Chase Daniels if they’re going to draft a QB at #7 or in round #2? Daniels is a great QB mentor.

Is Detriot really going to start Goff at 28 Million a year? Or would they trade for Derek Carr who is an upgrade over Stafford? Carr has two years left on his contract 19 Million per year!

Detriot trades picks 2021 #7 & 2022 Rams 1st round pick to the Raiders for Derek Carr.

Raiders send 4 or 5 1st round picks to Seattle for RW. Seattle trades for Darnold! Seattle could trade Bobby Wager to the Jets for Sam Darnold & 2nd round pick #34. Same deal trade Tyler Lockett for Sam Darnold and pick #66 or pick the 3rd round pick.

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Over the 2021 and 2022 seasons Goff is due a total of $53,325,000, of which $43,325,000 is fully guaranteed. Whichever team has his contract is responsible for those guarantees. Trading him doesn't negate the guarantees. Cutting him would mean the team with the contract immediately having to pay all of the remaining guaranteed money, (if he cleared waivers), and all of that amount would accelerate into the current cap year. If you don't understand contract details or the cap situation it is best to ask before posting assumptions.

...and Darnold sucks.
Any team trading for Darnold acquires a $4.77M 1-year rental before he becomes a FA.

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FresnoHawk68":3umtc6uh said:

Look at Overthecap.com! If Detriot trades Goff the contract changes! OTC is used by General Managers! Darnold’s 5th year option has not been exercised! 2 years for Darnold!

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FresnoHawk68":3qboi3bi said:

Look at Overthecap.com! If Detriot trades Goff the contract changes! OTC is used by General Managers! Darnold’s 5th year option has not been exercised! 2 years for Darnold!

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Why don't you look at it. The guaranteed numbers are clear, as is the cost of releasing Goff before the June 1st date in 2021. Contracts don't change just because the player gets traded. Darnold's 5th year option will NOT be exercised because it would guarantee him about $25M for his 5th year.

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flv":1tz3ojid said:

FresnoHawk68":1tz3ojid said:

Look at Overthecap.com! If Detriot trades Goff the contract changes! OTC is used by General Managers! Darnold’s 5th year option has not been exercised! 2 years for Darnold!

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Why don't you look at it. The guaranteed numbers are clear, as is the cost of releasing Goff before the June 1st date in 2021. Contracts don't change just because the player gets traded. Darnold's 5th year option will NOT be exercised because it would guarantee him about $25M for his 5th year.

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AgentDib":2d8hz49s said:

The fifth year option has become too complicated under the current CBA to type out all the details, but you can read them here. It now has to do with things like whether they have made the pro bowl or whether they have played a certain percentage of snaps. The 'PYS' acronym stands for Prior Year Salary in these sort of documents.

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flv":66491sqe said:

AgentDib":66491sqe said:

The fifth year option has become too complicated under the current CBA to type out all the details, but you can read them here. It now has to do with things like whether they have made the pro bowl or whether they have played a certain percentage of snaps. The 'PYS' acronym stands for Prior Year Salary in these sort of documents.

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+1.
In Darnold's case he would get the average of the 3rd to the 20th highest paid QBs because he has played 75% of snaps in at least 2 of the 3 years but he hasn't been selected to a ProBowl. 5th year options are now fully guaranteed when assigned, (before May 3 of the player's 4th season), so teams can't rescind them any more.

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FresnoHawk68":uii23dp2 said:

No! Click on trade before June 1st! It’s at the top it has a drop down window! Click on the player then click on the drop down arrow at the top!

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AgentDib":1vfvqooz said:

The fifth year option has become too complicated under the current CBA to type out all the details, but you can read them here. It now has to do with things like whether they have made the pro bowl or whether they have played a certain percentage of snaps. The 'PYS' acronym stands for Prior Year Salary in these sort of documents.

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flv":si9lbekd said:

FresnoHawk68":si9lbekd said:

No! Click on trade before June 1st! It’s at the top it has a drop down window! Click on the player then click on the drop down arrow at the top!

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If the Lions trade Goff they wouldn't have any dead money because they haven't paid him anything, (salary or bonus). The NEW team would then be responsible for all the guarantees. Cutting Goff means paying him all outstanding guaranteed money, (if he cleared waivers). In that scenario the cost would be $43M+. That cost goes into the current cap year for the team that cuts him. It doesn't matter whether it was the Lions that cut him or someone else. Trading him doesn't change that.

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FresnoHawk68":3dqo68kl said:

What? How do you come to the conclusion from OTC that the acquiring team from Detriot inherits dead money? It clearly says it doesn’t!
Look your not necessarily eating crow because OTC could be wrong! Nobody knows the true details of the trade until March 17th nobody should be commenting on it because we have no clue. In fact the trade could fall apart between now & March 17th!

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flv":22nw5wan said:

FresnoHawk68":22nw5wan said:

What? How do you come to the conclusion from OTC that the acquiring team from Detriot inherits dead money? It clearly says it doesn’t!
Look your not necessarily eating crow because OTC could be wrong! Nobody knows the true details of the trade until March 17th nobody should be commenting on it because we have no clue. In fact the trade could fall apart between now & March 17th!

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SMH. You can't trade dead money. The Rams have $20M+ of dead money next to Goff's name in the 2021 cap because that's money they have previously paid to Goff but haven't yet accounted for under the cap. That dead money stays with the Rams. If the Lions trade Goff the exact same page for Goff with the Lions switches to Goff with his new team. The Lions cap number for Goff would be $0 because they haven't paid him anything yet. The cut cost number for Goff would remain at $43M+. (It's $43M at OTC and $43.325M at Spotrac). This is because Goff is fully guaranteed $27.825M in 2021 and $15.5M in 2022, (as per Spotrac). Those future guarantees don't disappear because of a trade.

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FresnoHawk68":3pztwex3 said:

So your saying OTC is wrong! If your saying that I can’t argue anything! OTC is far more reliable than Sportrac and Sportrac doesn’t have the trade & cut feature before and after June 1st. Sportrac tells you nothing about trades & June 1st.

By the way look how much more $$ Seattle has in Salary Cap on Sportrac! I always use both of them OTC always is right vs Sportrac

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