Will the Wilson trade be the biggest trade in NFL history?

Forthewin · Mar 10, 2021

What will it take to be the biggest trade in NFL history?
The Goff trade was HUGE! 2 1st and a 2nd + a starting QB.
Ricky Williams pulled 6 draft picks from the Saints.
Herschel Walker... 5 players and 6 draft picks.

Value wise, what is it going to take to be a chart topper in NFL trade history?

Maelstrom787 · Mar 10, 2021

It needs to surpass the compensation the Rams gave up for Stafford.

It needs to surpass the overall value of the number 1 overall pick this year.

It may not be the biggest ever, but it needs to be a true blockbuster, and it needs to put this team in position to acquire a decent quarterback and build a new core.

chris98251 · Mar 10, 2021

Maelstrom787":3irdcpez said:
It needs to surpass the compensation the Rams gave up for Stafford.

It needs to surpass the overall value of the number 1 overall pick this year.

It may not be the biggest ever, but it needs to be a true blockbuster, and it needs to put this team in position to acquire a decent quarterback and build a new core.

So 3rd thru 7th round then, we don't do 1st round guys typically, let alone QB's, WR's, CB's, RB's. those kind of skill players cost too much on a second contract if they pan out as a first rounder, they also have to deal with the 5th year option and all that.

DK if he progresses this coming season is going to get paid early instead of locked in for 4 years.

brimsalabim · Mar 10, 2021

2 high first rounds that Pete and JS can turn into 12 7th round picks?

gremlin · Mar 10, 2021

Do you guys really think this will happen? I think with the dead money it would cost there is no way this happens this year.

Maelstrom787 · Mar 10, 2021

chris98251":2426tc95 said:
Maelstrom787":2426tc95 said:

It needs to surpass the compensation the Rams gave up for Stafford.

It needs to surpass the overall value of the number 1 overall pick this year.

It may not be the biggest ever, but it needs to be a true blockbuster, and it needs to put this team in position to acquire a decent quarterback and build a new core.

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So 3rd thru 7th round then, we don't do 1st round guys typically, let alone QB's, WR's, CB's, RB's. those kind of skill players cost too much on a second contract if they pan out as a first rounder, they also have to deal with the 5th year option and all that.

DK if he progresses this coming season is going to get paid early instead of locked in for 4 years.

Seattle's history in the upper half of the first round under PC/JS includes 2 stick-and-picks and Bruce Irvin. Why be so obtuse about this?

If anything, the precedent shows that they DO value first round players in the top half of the round.

Maelstrom787 · Mar 10, 2021

brimsalabim":3cvbu8jl said:
2 high first rounds that Pete and JS can turn into 12 7th round picks?

Each time their native pick was in the top half of the round, they didn't trade out of the round (or even out of the top half of the round), so I'm not sure where that's coming from.

chris98251 · Mar 10, 2021

Maelstrom787":12wx8vgs said:
chris98251":12wx8vgs said:

Maelstrom787":12wx8vgs said:

It needs to surpass the compensation the Rams gave up for Stafford.

It needs to surpass the overall value of the number 1 overall pick this year.

It may not be the biggest ever, but it needs to be a true blockbuster, and it needs to put this team in position to acquire a decent quarterback and build a new core.

Click to expand...

So 3rd thru 7th round then, we don't do 1st round guys typically, let alone QB's, WR's, CB's, RB's. those kind of skill players cost too much on a second contract if they pan out as a first rounder, they also have to deal with the 5th year option and all that.

DK if he progresses this coming season is going to get paid early instead of locked in for 4 years.

Click to expand...

Seattle's history in the upper half of the first round under PC/JS includes 2 stick-and-picks and Bruce Irvin. Why be so obtuse about this?

If anything, the precedent shows that they DO value first round players in the top half of the round.

Their first year they got Okung and Thomas, Thomas was not at the top. Okung was the 6th pick Thomas 14.

After that Irvin was 15 and considered a player that could have been had in the 2nd or 3rd round by most.

Neither were QB's, WR's, CB's, RB's.

TwistedHusky · Mar 10, 2021

If we trade Wilson this year for anything other than Watson it would be incredibly stupid.

It wouldn't be the stupidest in history, but you would be hard-pressed to be a worse #2.

The H. Walker trade that turned the Cowboys into a Dynasty might be worse.

I cannot fathom what we would be doing.

No QB that we get is going to be as good as Wilson. So our record WILL be worse.

And we won't have the ability of our QB to play HeroBall to offset our HC's rapidly declining coaching acumen and ability.

As we finally do worse, all we will be doing will be gifting better draft picks to the Jets while at the same time setting up years of continued playoffs successes for whatever team we trade Wilson to.

All to keep our 92-year-old HC in his seat of power as his plans fall apart and we careen into bottom-dweller status...likely for years.

Maelstrom787 · Mar 10, 2021

chris98251":1ncqar5g said:
Maelstrom787":1ncqar5g said:

chris98251":1ncqar5g said:

Maelstrom787":1ncqar5g said:

It needs to surpass the compensation the Rams gave up for Stafford.

It needs to surpass the overall value of the number 1 overall pick this year.

It may not be the biggest ever, but it needs to be a true blockbuster, and it needs to put this team in position to acquire a decent quarterback and build a new core.

Click to expand...

So 3rd thru 7th round then, we don't do 1st round guys typically, let alone QB's, WR's, CB's, RB's. those kind of skill players cost too much on a second contract if they pan out as a first rounder, they also have to deal with the 5th year option and all that.

DK if he progresses this coming season is going to get paid early instead of locked in for 4 years.

Click to expand...

Seattle's history in the upper half of the first round under PC/JS includes 2 stick-and-picks and Bruce Irvin. Why be so obtuse about this?

If anything, the precedent shows that they DO value first round players in the top half of the round.

Click to expand...

Their first year they got Okung and Thomas, Thomas was not at the top. Okung was the 6th pick Thomas 14.

After that Irvin was 15 and considered a player that could have been had in the 2nd or 3rd round by most.

Neither were QB's, WR's, CB's, RB's.

You never mentioned top. You said they don't do first round guys... which they do. I even qualified my response by defining it as the top half of the round... which 14th is.

Your rebuttal doesn't strengthen the argument that Seattle doesn't do first round players.

Elemas · Mar 10, 2021

DK will bounce if RW does. Just an opinion.

If this team is truly looking at doing this, they would be better off blowing it all up and garnering as many picks as they can. RW-gone. Adams-gone. Lockett-gone. Wagner-gone. DK-would eventually be gone.

I’m totally against it but if we’re trading a relatively young HOF QB and plan on dwelling at the bottom of an incredibly tough NFC West, at least do it the right way. Forget Pete’s legacy.

Keep RW or blow...it....all...the....way....up.

To answer the question, a RW trade would likely rank in the top 3-5 all time as far as return. Unless we’re dumb....and that’s, oddly enough, a likelihood the way it seems now.

Just one question though....how many years does it take to realize that we really don’t draft all that well? Same fans that are ready to throw RW away are the same ones that think Collier is still developing into an All-Pro. That McDowell was just a fluke (there were plenty of signs), Percy Harvin....Tate.

I understand being loyal but FFS.

pinksheets · Mar 10, 2021

Elemas":2rmbcmys said:
DK will bounce if RW does.

This might be true, but more than one former offensive player doesn't seem to like or think that much of Russ.

I think it'll depend if we can bring in someone good enough to keep DK fed.

Maelstrom787 · Mar 10, 2021

Elemas":3tcl1ort said:
DK will bounce if RW does. Just an opinion.

If this team is truly looking at doing this, they would be better off blowing it all up and garnering as many picks as they can. RW-gone. Adams-gone. Lockett-gone. Wagner-gone. DK-would eventually be gone.

I’m totally against it but if we’re trading a relatively young HOF QB and plan on dwelling at the bottom of an incredibly tough NFC West, at least do it the right way. Forget Pete’s legacy.

Keep RW or blow...it....all...the....way....up.

To answer the question, a RW trade would likely rank in the top 3-5 all time as far as return. Unless we’re dumb....and that’s, oddly enough, a likelihood the way it seems now.

Just one question though....how many years does it take to realize that we really don’t draft all that well? Same fans that are ready to throw RW away are the same ones that think Collier is still developing into an All-Pro. That McDowell was just a fluke (there were plenty of signs), Percy Harvin....Tate.

I understand being loyal but FFS.

I gotta take the opposite viewpoint here. I think if Russ goes, you need to get as much as you can from that package and try hard to keep the core of the team together, while adding the young talent netted from the trade for an additional boost. I'd think it more likely to get back to a Super Bowl that way than it would be blowing it up to amass resources.

Superbowl 48 · Mar 10, 2021

Speculation or guess...

K. Mack, M. Trubisky, two 1st round picks, and two 2nd round picks to Seattle.

Russel Wilson to Chicago.

Seattle wins in any deal close to this.

Sports Hernia · Mar 10, 2021

gremlin":3mohjb2m said:
Do you guys really think this will happen? I think with the dead money it would cost there is no way this happens this year.

Nope. It’s silly season.

toffee · Mar 10, 2021

Maelstrom787":323vkeri said:
chris98251":323vkeri said:

Maelstrom787":323vkeri said:

It needs to surpass the compensation the Rams gave up for Stafford.

It needs to surpass the overall value of the number 1 overall pick this year.

It may not be the biggest ever, but it needs to be a true blockbuster, and it needs to put this team in position to acquire a decent quarterback and build a new core.

Click to expand...

So 3rd thru 7th round then, we don't do 1st round guys typically, let alone QB's, WR's, CB's, RB's. those kind of skill players cost too much on a second contract if they pan out as a first rounder, they also have to deal with the 5th year option and all that.

DK if he progresses this coming season is going to get paid early instead of locked in for 4 years.

Click to expand...

Seattle's history in the upper half of the first round under PC/JS includes 2 stick-and-picks and Bruce Irvin. Why be so obtuse about this?

If anything, the precedent shows that they DO value first round players in the top half of the round.

This.

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JayhawkMike · Mar 10, 2021

People that put Mack in any trade scenarios have simply not looked at the numbers. Yes we can trade RW and have a bunch of dead money but not trade RW and add Mack’s cap hit AND pay a new starting QB.

pinksheets · Mar 10, 2021

JayhawkMike":6tjamizb said:
People that put Mack in any trade scenarios have simply not looked at the numbers. Yes we can trade RW and have a bunch of dead money but not trade RW and add Mack’s cap hit AND pay a new starting QB.

Odds are they won't be paying a big time QB contact for a big time QB - it'll be a bridge guy.

And they absolutely can. Getting rid of Russ frees up a ton of space next year, and they can work the cap and push money from this year into next for other players to make room.

CPHawk · Mar 10, 2021

Superbowl 48":2ahrtx7l said:
Speculation or guess...

K. Mack, M. Trubisky, two 1st round picks, and two 2nd round picks to Seattle.

Russel Wilson to Chicago.

Seattle wins in any deal close to this.

That’s a trade that gets Seattle to 4-5 wins. Nothing winning about that deal for the Seahawks.

Fade · Mar 10, 2021

Elemas":3bd0xkkp said:
DK will bounce if RW does. Just an opinion.

If this team is truly looking at doing this, they would be better off blowing it all up and garnering as many picks as they can. RW-gone. Adams-gone. Lockett-gone. Wagner-gone. DK-would eventually be gone.

I’m totally against it but if we’re trading a relatively young HOF QB and plan on dwelling at the bottom of an incredibly tough NFC West, at least do it the right way. Forget Pete’s legacy.

Keep RW or blow...it....all...the....way....up.

To answer the question, a RW trade would likely rank in the top 3-5 all time as far as return. Unless we’re dumb....and that’s, oddly enough, a likelihood the way it seems now.

Just one question though....how many years does it take to realize that we really don’t draft all that well? Same fans that are ready to throw RW away are the same ones that think Collier is still developing into an All-Pro. That McDowell was just a fluke (there were plenty of signs), Percy Harvin....Tate.

I understand being loyal but FFS.

Hard to blow it all up when the Jets own the Seahawks next two 1st round picks.

How would you feel if they blew it all up, and surrendered a top 5 pick to the Jets? You don't mortgage the future if you plan on trading your Franchise QB. That is a total conflict of interest and gross mismanagement.

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