Rain Sunday

AROS · Sep 16, 2021

Does it matter? It used to. I've never been a fan of the rain at home. Never saw it as an advantage. I think it was established that Russ' stats drop dramatically in rain games. But both teams have to play in it. Does this change the trajectory of the game i.e. lower scoring? Thoughts?

QuahHawk · Sep 16, 2021

More turnovers and less points. Running game seems like it would be more important if it's raining hard. Advantage Tennessee if that's the case.

hoxrox · Sep 16, 2021

Could be a sloppy game if they don't protect the football. Also no missed tackles on Derrick Henry or it could be a long day. Tannehill is a bit underrated.

Balanced attack, we will need. Excited to see what the offense will bring.

Expecting a close game. 12s need to bring it.

Jerhawk · Sep 16, 2021

Wilson has always struggled in the rain.

Flame away

sdog1981 · Sep 16, 2021

Wenhawk":16p0erpk said:
More turnovers and less points. Running game seems like it would be more important if it's raining hard. Advantage Tennessee if that's the case.

The only counter to that would be the 39-30 shoot-out with the Steelers was in the rain.

SoulfishHawk · Sep 16, 2021

Let's ask the Vikings if Russ can play in the rain. Yet another for the list of things he clearly can't do. But believe what you want :?
Yeah, he ALWAYS struggles in the rain. Nah, we just ALWAYS hear that he does. Sloppy weather usually equals sloppy play.

sutz · Sep 16, 2021

Jerhawk":s761xhfz said:
Wilson has always struggled in the rain.

Flame away

Pretty much all teams "struggle" in the rain. Bad weather affects how teams play. I don't think Russ is especially prone to this any more so than others.

:229031_shrug:

John63 · Sep 16, 2021

Hmm interesting things here

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/russell-wilson-playing-in-the-rain

Russell Wilson playing in the rain this regular season
NAME SEASON TM GP CMP ATT PCT YDS AVG YDS/G TD TD% INT INT% SCK SCKY RATE
Russell Wilson Russell Wilson 2021 SEASEA 1 18 23 78.3 254 11.0 254.0 4 17.4 0 0.0 3 13 152.3

Hmm

seems all QBs are worse in the rain and bad weather

https://towardsdatascience.com/foot...of-weather-on-nfl-qb-performance-f0edb420623d

Hmm

ivotuk · Sep 16, 2021

Nice Try John. But they played in an enclosed building last week. If you look at the stats, they are his stats from the Indy game. :34853_doh:

John63 · Sep 16, 2021

ivotuk":2m92iy6m said:
Nice Try John. But they played in an enclosed building last week. If you look at the stats, they are his stats from the Indy game. :34853_doh:

you are correct I miss read that. However, the other link shows clearly all QBs play worse in the rain. the point still stands.

That said it was raining last year in Minny and his Passer rating was over 100. with 3 tds and he was our leasing Rusher as well/

ivotuk · Sep 16, 2021

I know I've seen some poor games from him in the rain, at home.

I still remember Jon Gruden getting "aggravated" at Mel Kiper when we drafted Russell, and saying "Russell, you're going to Seattle, so get a bucket of water, dip the football in it, and practice throwing it!"

And I remember thinking "Russell's got HUGE hands and a BIG arm! He wont' have any problem!"

Remember all of those great memes Seahawks fans were posting on here? My favorite was the one with RW's arms lengthened, and his hands expanded!

The funniest one was of his future ex-wife with her mouth wide open, and people adding things going in to it, Monty Python style! :mrgreen:

John63 · Sep 16, 2021

ivotuk":3miyqceg said:
I know I've seen some poor games from him in the rain, at home.

I still remember Jon Gruden getting "aggravated" at Mel Kiper when we drafted Russell, and saying "Russell, you're going to Seattle, so get a bucket of water, dip the football in it, and practice throwing it!"

And I remember thinking "Russell's got HUGE hands and a BIG arm! He wont' have any problem!"

Remember all of those great memes Seahawks fans were posting on here? My favorite was the one with RW's arms lengthened, and his hands expanded!

The funniest one was of his future ex-wife with her mouth wide open, and people adding things going in to it, Monty Python style! :mrgreen:

he has had some bad games isn't the rain, as had all Qbs, and he has had some good ones in the rain as had all QBs.

AROS · Sep 17, 2021

I don't care what anybody says. I have seen every single game in person with Russ playing in the rain at home and I can tell you right here and right now I feel waaaaaay more comfortable when it's dry versus raining. I'm good with the eye test after all these years.

TreeRon · Sep 17, 2021

Aros":2f8p1jcp said:
I don't care what anybody says. I have seen every single game in person with Russ playing in the rain at home and I can tell you right here and right now I feel waaaaaay more comfortable when it's dry versus raining. I'm good with the eye test after all these years.

I'm hinking you'd say the same thing if Brady or Rogers were QB. No doubt it's harder to throw and catch in the rain. Remember though that unlike our sandlot games, the NFL switches out the football regularly.

GeekHawk · Sep 17, 2021

Surely there are some actual Advanced Stats about QBs in the rain vs not. Over several years. I just wouldn't know where to look. :sherlock:

had2bhawk · Sep 17, 2021

Rain will hamper the passing game a little. As mentioned the ball will be replaced dry as needed. There is no tall grass nor mud like the old days. I think the run game will be a majority of schemes on both teams. I hope our Oline is up for the challenge and D will handle Henry.

HawkOG70’ · Sep 17, 2021

Jerhawk":2kk0cxim said:
Wilson has always struggled in the rain.

Flame away

Many do but Wilson is above average league wide in the rain. Also if you have big hands as does Wilson.....the ball actually becomes grippier in the rain. It's not going to be a torrential downpour anyways but more of a drizzle in football terms. The forecast calls for light rain at kickoff. I like the Hawks big time in this game. The rain will be a non factor IMO

Jville · Sep 17, 2021

This is week 9 of unrelenting and unhealthy levels of wild fire smoke in Southern Oregon.

Bring on the Rain. :2thumbs: This weekend would be good.

hawk45 · Sep 17, 2021

Jerhawk":30q01ri0 said:
Wilson has always struggled in the rain.

Flame away

I agree, and I agree with Aros’s eye test. To me it’s always impacted him worse than most other QBs, maybe because so much of his passing is based on his very excellent touch.

That said, I’m hoping Waldron can give him lots more of those jazzy TE screens and wide open intermediate throws so Russ doesn’t need to rifle it too much and has a margin for error. In the past I felt like he was throwing to very tight windows or deep balls against close coverage. A little space around the WR could be helpful in the rain, as could throwing more to TEs who have coverage mismatches.

chris98251 · Sep 17, 2021

His ball seems to sail a lot more or it's in the dirt, that sounds like a grip issue, over gripping for the dirt balls, but gripping enough on sails so the ball isn't rotating as his balls normally do if that makes sense.

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