Seattle Has the #11 Offense and the #32 Defense in the NFL

Offense 389 YPG #11
Defense 440 YPG #32

https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team/_/view/defense

Actually pretty impressed with that offensive ranking considering that the offense hasn't done jack shit in the 2nd half of 2 of the 3 games they've played so far. Sure would like to see the offense show up for 4 quarters, though because they seem to disappear at half time.

Chapow":2eys5637 said:

Actually pretty impressed with that offensive ranking considering that the offense hasn't done jack $h!t in the 2nd half of 2 of the 3 games they've played so far. Sure would like to see the offense show up for 4 quarters, though because they seem to disappear at half time.

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Must be because we have a half pint QB we only get 1/2 a game from them.

For years prior, we could only score in the 2nd half after putting up zilch in the first. This year so far.....the EXACT opposite.

One has to wonder what is being said in the Locker Room once Pete is from behind the Press Conference podium?
I would hope that someone is "Kicking Ass" and threatening coaches with their job unless they get more from their players. Looking down the barrel of a 1-5 start is daunting!

So is this next week like a Bye for the Niners then?

Because would they even need to play their starters to score?

Chapow":2fmr0tgv said:

Actually pretty impressed with that offensive ranking considering that the offense hasn't done jack $h!t in the 2nd half of 2 of the 3 games they've played so far. Sure would like to see the offense show up for 4 quarters, though because they seem to disappear at half time.

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There's liars, damn liars, and then there are statisticians.

The offensive ranking doesn't tell the whole story. As you noted, we tend to run up a lot of offense in the first half then in the 2nd half/OT, when the game is on the line, we disappear. We are also in the bottom half in 3rd down conversions, ranked 20th, and dead last in time of possession, a reflection of not only our inability to get opponents off the field, but also of our boom or bust offense, which puts an enormous amount of pressure on that #32 defense.

RiverDog":30t3tm49 said:

Chapow":30t3tm49 said:

Actually pretty impressed with that offensive ranking considering that the offense hasn't done jack $h!t in the 2nd half of 2 of the 3 games they've played so far. Sure would like to see the offense show up for 4 quarters, though because they seem to disappear at half time.

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There's liars, damn liars, and then there are statisticians.

The offensive ranking doesn't tell the whole story. As you noted, we tend to run up a lot of offense in the first half then in the 2nd half/OT, when the game is on the line, we disappear. We are also in the bottom half in 3rd down conversions, ranked 20th, and dead last in time of possession, a reflection of not only our inability to get opponents off the field, but also of our boom or bust offense, which puts an enormous amount of pressure on that #32 defense.

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what puts a huge amount of pressure eon a defense is them giving up 48.78% on 3rd down/ Wich would make them 27th, Meaning 26 teams are better. OR 22 teams getting called for fewer penalties, 0r 24 giving up fewer yards. Or being top 5 in giving up drives of 5+ minutes. In the last 2 games, the opponent got the ball after halftime. The Defense gave up drives of 5 minutes and 9 minutes.

There is an old saying physician help thyself. Well guess what Defense help yourself get off the damn field

Nah, the Hawks have owned the Niners for several years. I like our chances on Sunday. And no I haven't been drinking :irishdrinkers:

SoulfishHawk":1q57uzyi said:

Nah, the Hawks have owned the Niners for several years. I like our chances on Sunday. And no I haven't been drinking :irishdrinkers:

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The 49ers seem to bring out the best in us so we can always hope.

If that stat keeps up we are staring 9-8 square in the face.

If we're lucky.

Aros":1klkfjo4 said:

If that stat keeps up we are staring 9-8 square in the face.

If we're lucky.

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Yes - that's the lucky best case scenario with the 32nd ranked Defense. If there's no improvement on
that side of the ball - I'll predict their record is much more likely a losing one.

SoulfishHawk":vaavrvvg said:

Nah, the Hawks have owned the Niners for several years. I like our chances on Sunday. And no I haven't been drinking :irishdrinkers:

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Didn’t we own the Vikings too?

If only our offense could play our defense. We’d be a top 5 offense.

JayhawkMike":2elyy28n said:

If only our offense could play our defense. We’d be a top 5 offense.

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Lol now that's funny

John63":x4y4j5cc said:

RiverDog":x4y4j5cc said:

Chapow":x4y4j5cc said:

Actually pretty impressed with that offensive ranking considering that the offense hasn't done jack $h!t in the 2nd half of 2 of the 3 games they've played so far. Sure would like to see the offense show up for 4 quarters, though because they seem to disappear at half time.

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There's liars, damn liars, and then there are statisticians.

The offensive ranking doesn't tell the whole story. As you noted, we tend to run up a lot of offense in the first half then in the 2nd half/OT, when the game is on the line, we disappear. We are also in the bottom half in 3rd down conversions, ranked 20th, and dead last in time of possession, a reflection of not only our inability to get opponents off the field, but also of our boom or bust offense, which puts an enormous amount of pressure on that #32 defense.

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what puts a huge amount of pressure eon a defense is them giving up 48.78 on rd down/ Wich would make them 27th, Meaning 26 teams are better. OR 22 teams getting called for fewer penalties, 0r 24 giving up fewer yards. Or being top 5 in giving up drives of 5+ minutes. In the last 2 games, the opponent got the ball after halftime. The Defense gave up drives of 5 minutes and 9 minutes.

The reis an old saying physician help thyself. Well guess what Defense help yourself get off the damn field

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I think most people agree that the defense is a much bigger problem than the offense right now. The point being made is that our offense is making it even harder on an already horrible defense.

We scored 17 points yesterday against a Vikings defense that came into the game ranked in the bottom 3rd of the league. We scored 0 points after the 11 minute mark of the 2nd quarter, meaning we scored 0 points in the final 41 minutes of a 60 minute game. After the Chris Carson TD with 11 minutes left in the 2nd quarter the offense did not have a drive longer than 6 plays, and did not have a drive longer than 2 minutes and 46 seconds. Our offense held the ball for 7 minutes and 20 seconds total in the entire 2nd half of the game. Even if our defense wasn't abysmal, it would be awfully hard to win a game in the NFL when our offense only scores 17 points and is essentially non-existent for over two thirds of the game.

Everyone arguing that the offense is hurting the D. Maybe its the other way around? How is the offense supposed to get on track when the d is giving up 10 minute drives all the time? How about getting the other team off the field once in a while? How about creating a turnover and giving the offense some good field position for once?
We are paying some players on D some real big money. How about they make a play every once in a while? It isn't the offenses fault the D cannot make a single stop ever.
The offense had long drives in the first half and all that time sitting on the bench didn't help the D one iota. Time of possession excuses are just that excuses for a piss poor defense led by a piss poor D coordintaor who has shown he is not capable of the job he has held for quite some time now.

Chapow":1fkawxyt said:

Actually pretty impressed with that offensive ranking considering that the offense hasn't done jack $h!t in the 2nd half of 2 of the 3 games they've played so far. Sure would like to see the offense show up for 4 quarters, though because they seem to disappear at half time.

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Honest question, not trying to troll.

Would you say every offense has about one or two throwaway drives to get into rhythm. For even the best offenses?

If so, would you not say an offense that only gets 2 drives in the 2nd half, 3 if you’re lucky, is being put in a “save us” position?

By the end of the year we will say “the offense finally figured out the 2nd half of games.” While completely ignoring the fact that the offense is literally getting more drives to work with because the defense improved.

So when Carrol said " we'll be OK " He meant it . OK is his prediction ? That's about right actually .

RiverDog":2esrah3l said:

Chapow":2esrah3l said:

Actually pretty impressed with that offensive ranking considering that the offense hasn't done jack $h!t in the 2nd half of 2 of the 3 games they've played so far. Sure would like to see the offense show up for 4 quarters, though because they seem to disappear at half time.

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There's liars, damn liars, and then there are statisticians.

The offensive ranking doesn't tell the whole story. As you noted, we tend to run up a lot of offense in the first half then in the 2nd half/OT, when the game is on the line, we disappear. We are also in the bottom half in 3rd down conversions, ranked 20th, and dead last in time of possession, a reflection of not only our inability to get opponents off the field, but also of our boom or bust offense, which puts an enormous amount of pressure on that #32 defense.

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Must be a bad statistician then. Since the Seahawks hardly receive the ball back in the 2nd half of games…that the Seahawks were not even “boom or bust” in yesterday’s game. And that the drive by drive breakdown literally exposes this argument as a lie? :lol:

The Vikings coming out of the 2nd half literally had three possessions of 5-9 minutes. They consumed the entire 3rd quarter pretty much. You have to be really, really committed to blame the offense despite this evidence. Under no circumstances would the offense get a pass for failing that miserably for all 4 quarters. It’s as if some of you are deciding your argument depending on who to blame. Sometimes, it is the offense’s fault. And sometimes we’re just looking to blame the offense. Which is it?

JayhawkMike":23pjzy23 said:

If only our offense could play our defense. We’d be a top 5 offense.

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I think it'd be the other way around. Our defense leaves the middle of the field wide open and our offense doesn't use it.