RB's wood vs granite

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Let face it, for the last few years our Seahawks have had wooden Rbs that don't hold up, like Lynch use too. Its the difference between wood and granite. We need a granite RB, he doesn't need to run a 4.4 40, 4.5 or 4.6 is fine but he does need to be strong enough to stay healthy. One tuff guy and his back up is all we need, not five wooden RBs.

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A Granite RB, take a look at Abram Smith from Baylor, he was a LB that converted over to RB. At 5'11" 220 Smith runs the ball well and love to inspire his team mate by carrying the work load. His numbers don't lie.

If Smith is available at 42, the seahawks would be foolish for passing on his selection. The new beast mode part de has been discovered.

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Nice analogy! I was shocked we passed on Jonathan Taylor a couple years ago to take LB Jordyn Brooks (who I do really like).

Taylor seemed to me like the most BeastMode back we could draft since the original (or arguably Nick Chubb). Would you consider Taylor a "granite" back in the NFL?
 

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I seem to remember JT had some fumbling concerns coming out.
 
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Abram Smith has over 1600 yards and 12 TDs on the year, so yes, I'd consider him as a granite type of running back.
 

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Granite breaks too if it gets hit hard enough, and in the NFL players hit awfully damn hard.

The unfortunate reality is that injuries are common in the NFL and injuries to RB's are especially common. It's not just a Seahawks problem. It's a league wide problem.
 

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We drafted Penny in part because of his medicals and we've seen how that worked out. Even Lynch was hampered in the latter part of his career with a back injury that made him a game time decision most weeks. There isn't a RB out there who isn't a huge injury risk.

There's not really an answer to this other than coming to terms with how much randomness there is in the NFL every season due to injury luck. With better injury luck this year we could still be in the playoffs, and with worse luck our 2013 team could have failed to reach the playoffs. The highs and lows are never as high or low as they seem.
 

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If we have a running back playing with wood, he needs to lay off the viagra. :lol:

Sorry, I couldn't resist.
 

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Supposedly Beast had a running style that made him a bit more stable but also made him not quite as fast as the other RBs kind of like a side to side stride (like the way a soccer player dribbles a ball) vs a up and down sprinter. This could be a contributing factor to his ability to play. I also bet there is just an aspect of mentality, how many people do we know in our own lives that will go to work or do whatever they gotta do or want to do even if at 50% while others will call out sick or say they can't go to the gym or whatever the second they have the sniffles (pre-covid) or slightly rolled their ankle?

Outside of true injury that involves fractures and tears...It's quite possible it truly is just a mentality and will thing. I bet we even saw it with Jamal Adams last year (when he had a contract coming up) vs this year. It certainly seems that way with Penny a little too huh? I mean we saw RW this year come back a little sooner than he should have and the rumors he played through a busted shoulder another season.

The last factor that if I were some kind of NFL scout I'd factor in for high risky injury positions would also have to be pre/post practice/daily routines. Like is this athlete someone who goes to practice and then leaves? or is this someone who goes to practice an hour early, warms up, does a bunch of dynamic stretches, practices, then stays another half hour to properly cool down and voluntarily does Yoga on the weekends?

There are always reports about the athletes who somehow have remains genuinely injury free and have played way past their typical expected years tend to be absurd even compared to their fellow professional athletes with their pre/post game and practice warm up, cool down and stretch routines. I mean even in my non professional sports life i remember getting so much crap for my own routines, yet I never got injured and was ready to go hard every day, the second I tried to be like the other guys and not bother doing my extra warms up and stretches suddenly i'm having sprains and muscle soreness and pulls..how about that?

All the above being said, then it goes back to talent scouting and drafting. Maybe they gotta start prioritizing different things in the draft room. More than just potential or certain fits but maybe considering what things certain athletes are doing or physical styles they run that could lead to more longevity and dependability vs just being potentially this amazing RB who also could call out every time he bruises his knee or may end up tearing a muscle the second he gets partially rolled on.
 

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I'm more cognizant of what various backs have going on between the ears.

I think the entire offensive backfield can improve the offense thru better and more reliable utilization of blockers.
 
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AgentDib":221833tk said:
We drafted Penny in part because of his medicals and we've seen how that worked out. Even Lynch was hampered in the latter part of his career with a back injury that made him a game time decision most weeks. There isn't a RB out there who isn't a huge injury risk.

There's not really an answer to this other than coming to terms with how much randomness there is in the NFL every season due to injury luck. With better injury luck this year we could still be in the playoffs, and with worse luck our 2013 team could have failed to reach the playoffs. The highs and lows are never as high or low as they seem.


Well Dibs, the different styles between Penny and Smith are totally different, Penny isn't the type to lower his shoulder and try to run though you. Smith on the other hand will get stopped at the 1 yard line long enough so he can get a little help from a linemen or five to push him into the endzone.

Smith was converted from playing LBer so, hes got a LBers mentally. Love that contact, Penny you don't have to hit him to get injury. This is like night and day.

Granite baby ! :229031_cheers:
 
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oldhawkfan":2mh2m5rj said:
If we have a running back playing with wood, he needs to lay off the viagra. :lol:

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Thats some funny stuff right there !!!!!!!!!!!! Good one ROTFL
 

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oldhawkfan":2vfprbkc said:
If we have a running back playing with wood, he needs to lay off the viagra. :lol:

Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Or maybe find someone that uses NIAGRA, he'd maybe have some cleaner break away runs. :lol:
 

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Chapow":1a28354g said:
Granite breaks too if it gets hit hard enough, and in the NFL players hit awfully damn hard.

The unfortunate reality is that injuries are common in the NFL and injuries to RB's are especially common. It's not just a Seahawks problem. It's a league wide problem.
True dat ^ Just ask Ricardo Lockette, Cliff Avril & Kam Chancellor.
 
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