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  • Ramfan128 wrote:Sunday night is a must win for the Niners, and their offense will be almost fully healthy. Missing half their defense, but I think they will show up Sunday night. Their season is over if they lose this game with the upcoming schedule.

    For the Rams, it's already our fourth road game and fourth in five weeks - those two factors combined, I get why the Rams are favored, but I think the Niners should win


    I mean, I HOPE you are right, but I think the Rams are going to get up on the scoreboard against the decimated D, forcing the O to pass to catch up and exposing their poor protection and force them away from their strength, the run game.
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  • Marvin49 wrote:
    Ramfan128 wrote:Sunday night is a must win for the Niners, and their offense will be almost fully healthy. Missing half their defense, but I think they will show up Sunday night. Their season is over if they lose this game with the upcoming schedule.

    For the Rams, it's already our fourth road game and fourth in five weeks - those two factors combined, I get why the Rams are favored, but I think the Niners should win


    I mean, I HOPE you are right, but I think the Rams are going to get up on the scoreboard against the decimated D, forcing the O to pass to catch up and exposing their poor protection and force them away from their strength, the run game.


    What's interesting is the symmetry to last year. Week 6 both years, the NFC West team everyone slept on up two games on the defending NFC champs. I obviously hope I'm wrong and we effectively end the Niners season Sunday Night, but I also am not going to let that define the Rams season. Even if we lose, 4-2 is a great start.
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  • Whelp, they have a pulse.

    Interesting takeaways from that game.

    -The 49ers can play defense (muh injuries was just an excuse.)

    -There offensive line looked great, and shutout Aaron Donald. (another supposed excuse.)

    -Kyle had an amazing opening script, that protected his QB, while also simultaneously built up his confidence.

    -Getting blown out by the Dolphins was the best thing to happen to them. It lit some fires and snapped them out of their malaise. My evaluation was it wasn't the injuries, or the O-Line, or other excuses, etc… No, focus and desire was the primary culprit to their haphazard play.

    -Was this a one off? Or is this how they're going to play the rest of the season?
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  • Fade wrote:Whelp, they have a pulse.

    Interesting takeaways from that game.

    -The 49ers can play defense (muh injuries was just an excuse.)

    -There offensive line looked great, and shutout Aaron Donald. (another supposed excuse.)

    -Kyle had an amazing opening script, that protected his QB, while also simultaneously built up his confidence.

    -Getting blown out by the Dolphins was the best thing to happen to them. It lit some fires and snapped them out of their malaise. My evaluation was it wasn't the injuries, or the O-Line, or other excuses, etc… No, focus and desire was the primary culprit to their haphazard play.

    -Was this a one off? Or is this how they're going to play the rest of the season?


    Well, first of all the Dolphins are showing that they are not the weak team the media and others here have portrayed them to be. Sunday was a good day for us as the Rams lost and another opponent, GB, lost also. If current trends continue it is likely that GB would be the largest obstacle to reaching the SB.

    SF still has weapons and good coaching, can't count anyone out at this juncture.

    GO SEAHAWKS!!!
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  • Lol at comparing your injuries to the 9ers.

    If Wilson wasn’t scrambling and throwing bombs at a ridiculous rate, you wouldn’t be where you are now. Can you keep it up? That’s the key because your defense is garbage.
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  • How cute, downplaying the Hawks 5-0 record. Good luck with that.
    I love the salty tears of a "faithful" Niner fan.
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  • Stanley wrote:Lol at comparing your injuries to the 9ers.

    If Wilson wasn’t scrambling and throwing bombs at a ridiculous rate, you wouldn’t be where you are now. Can you keep it up? That’s the key because your defense is garbage.


    If Montana didn't have Walsh as a coach you would have no rust in the cabinet either, been how many years and some of you guys still don't get it, it's what he does, it's how he works, it's his signature style of play.
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  • Fade wrote:Whelp, they have a pulse.

    Interesting takeaways from that game.

    -The 49ers can play defense (muh injuries was just an excuse.)

    -There offensive line looked great, and shutout Aaron Donald. (another supposed excuse.)

    -Kyle had an amazing opening script, that protected his QB, while also simultaneously built up his confidence.

    -Getting blown out by the Dolphins was the best thing to happen to them. It lit some fires and snapped them out of their malaise. My evaluation was it wasn't the injuries, or the O-Line, or other excuses, etc… No, focus and desire was the primary culprit to their haphazard play.

    -Was this a one off? Or is this how they're going to play the rest of the season?


    Injuries were NOT just an excuse.

    Watch the Dolphins game. Fitz went after the same DB over, and over, and over , and over. He simply could not make a play. He was also penalized on PI and PF (horse collar). They finally had to remove him from the game and put in Witherspoon who was only active to play in the event of an emergency. Dude allowed like 130 yards, a TD, a PI and a PF....and he was removed from the game before halftime. No joke...they started their SEVENTH corner.

    Simply getting Moseley back was HUGE.

    What IS notable is that Verrett has been great. It will be interesting when Sherman and Williams get back (Williams in the slot). If Sherm is close to what he was, Sherman and Verrett is pretty damn good. Problem is that they still can't apply pressure without Bosa or Ford.
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  • Marv, after the get-right game with Rams I am seeing our 11/1 matchup as...well a tossup.

    We have no Jadaveon Clowney type and you guys don't have Bosa. We have Carson but under him an aging Hyde and then Homer, whom no one likes, whereas you have this Hasty character. Your RB position is probably superior there and that's by deliberate design of Shan.
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  • SantaClaraHawk wrote:Marv, after the get-right game with Rams I am seeing our 11/1 matchup as...well a tossup.

    We have no Jadaveon Clowney type and you guys don't have Bosa. We have Carson but under him an aging Hyde and then Homer, whom no one likes, whereas you have this Hasty character. Your RB position is probably superior there and that's by deliberate design of Shan.


    Nah.

    1) Yes Clowney is good, but IMO Bosa was far better. Clowney is a very, very good overall defender, but he's never been the elite pass rusher he was billed to be. I do agree though that Seattle has some issues with its pass rush.

    2) RB position not so good right now. Mostert just went on IR. Coleman already on IR. McKinnon....eh....jury out on that one. Hasty? He looked ok last night, but what you saw is essentially his entire NFL career. Carson is far, far better than any RB the 49ers can currently put on the field.

    EDIT: Oh. Joy. Not just Mostert, but Ben Garland, their BACKUP Center. They are now on their third string center. I think that's now 20 players on IR.

    Trent Williams and Jaquiski Tartt also hurt and unknown if they play on sunday. I mean at some point you just have to laugh, right?
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  • Marvin49 wrote:
    SantaClaraHawk wrote:Marv, after the get-right game with Rams I am seeing our 11/1 matchup as...well a tossup.

    We have no Jadaveon Clowney type and you guys don't have Bosa. We have Carson but under him an aging Hyde and then Homer, whom no one likes, whereas you have this Hasty character. Your RB position is probably superior there and that's by deliberate design of Shan.


    Nah.

    1) Yes Clowney is good, but IMO Bosa was far better. Clowney is a very, very good overall defender, but he's never been the elite pass rusher he was billed to be. I do agree though that Seattle has some issues with its pass rush.

    2) RB position not so good right now. Mostert just went on IR. Coleman already on IR. McKinnon....eh....jury out on that one. Hasty? He looked ok last night, but what you saw is essentially his entire NFL career. Carson is far, far better than any RB the 49ers can currently put on the field.

    EDIT: Oh. Joy. Not just Mostert, but Ben Garland, their BACKUP Center. They are now on their third string center. I think that's now 20 players on IR.


    Wow, I didn't see Shan's latest press conference that talked about the injuries to Mostert and the C Garland, which can be found here:

    https://www.ninersnation.com/2020/10/19 ... -to-the-ir

    Losing Mostert is critical since there's no Coleman and on center Richburg's not coming back. If that hadn't happened I'd say they're very competitive with the Pats but without them IDK as the run is absolutely key to Kyle's game plan.
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  • SantaClaraHawk wrote:
    Marvin49 wrote:
    SantaClaraHawk wrote:Marv, after the get-right game with Rams I am seeing our 11/1 matchup as...well a tossup.

    We have no Jadaveon Clowney type and you guys don't have Bosa. We have Carson but under him an aging Hyde and then Homer, whom no one likes, whereas you have this Hasty character. Your RB position is probably superior there and that's by deliberate design of Shan.


    Nah.

    1) Yes Clowney is good, but IMO Bosa was far better. Clowney is a very, very good overall defender, but he's never been the elite pass rusher he was billed to be. I do agree though that Seattle has some issues with its pass rush.

    2) RB position not so good right now. Mostert just went on IR. Coleman already on IR. McKinnon....eh....jury out on that one. Hasty? He looked ok last night, but what you saw is essentially his entire NFL career. Carson is far, far better than any RB the 49ers can currently put on the field.

    EDIT: Oh. Joy. Not just Mostert, but Ben Garland, their BACKUP Center. They are now on their third string center. I think that's now 20 players on IR.


    Wow, I didn't see Shan's latest press conference that talked about the injuries to Mostert and the C Garland, which can be found here:

    https://www.ninersnation.com/2020/10/19 ... -to-the-ir

    Losing Mostert is critical since there's no Coleman and on center Richburg's not coming back. If that hadn't happened I'd say they're very competitive with the Pats but without them IDK as the run is absolutely key to Kyle's game plan.


    I honestly can't see them doing better than 8-8 this year. There is just too much. The injuries are ludicrous at this point.
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  • Marvin49 wrote:I honestly can't see them doing better than 8-8 this year. There is just too much. The injuries are ludicrous at this point.


    That stinks, Marv; what a bunch of awful luck! I hate injuries... would rather play teams strength-vs.-strength. It makes the whole season feel like a downer for you guys.
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  • The hangover also is the ability to get rest and heal from a long season, we felt it also. Why in my mind it is hard to get back as well.
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  • I was beginning to have my doubts, not anymore.

    "Muh injuries" is highly overrated.

    Kyle Shanahan is the best coach in the division.
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  • Fade wrote:I was beginning to have my doubts, not anymore.

    "Muh injuries" is highly overrated.

    Kyle Shanahan is the best coach in the division.


    It’s only overrated if your have good depth.

    Still, no Bosa, Sherman, Ford, Thomas, Ronald Blair - this last game add Tartt, Ward, Kwon. Those aren’t just “muh injuries.” The 49er IR can beat most teams themselves.
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  • You can add Deebo Samuel and Jeff Wilson to the muh injuries list now
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  • SF49r wrote:You can add Deebo Samuel and Jeff Wilson to the muh injuries list now


    ....and like that, Deebos gone. He'll miss Seahawks and Packers at least. Jeff Wilson to IR.

    Sigh. Year of attrition continues.
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  • Marvin49 wrote:
    SF49r wrote:You can add Deebo Samuel and Jeff Wilson to the muh injuries list now


    ....and like that, Deebos gone. He'll miss Seahawks and Packers at least. Jeff Wilson to IR.

    Sigh. Year of attrition continues.


    Marv, as a 49er fan, I suggest you take the approach of my SO to your wins.

    He called SNF the "Habitrail Bowl." He's still doing that while dodging the broom. There you go.
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