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Oh Jags
Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:21 pm
  • Just saw on Total Access that the Jaguars are hiring Bevell as their OC.
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Re: Oh Jags
Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:38 pm
  • Aros wrote:Just saw on Total Access that the Jaguars are hiring Bevell as their OC.

    He did win us a Super Bowl.
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Re: Oh Jags
Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:09 am
  • Jazzhawk wrote:
    Aros wrote:Just saw on Total Access that the Jaguars are hiring Bevell as their OC.

    He did win us a Super Bowl.


    You think? Like, Bevell was the #1 reason we won the Super Bowl that season?
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Re: Oh Jags
Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:56 am
  • Owner insists on having roster control.

    Owner hires Trent Baalke who fired Harbaugh for TOMSULA...and now that's Urban Meyer's boss.

    Meyer gets to boss around a retread from Seattle.

    If I were a UK fan I still wouldn't watch this team.
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Re: Oh Jags
Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:56 pm
  • Jazzhawk wrote:
    Aros wrote:Just saw on Total Access that the Jaguars are hiring Bevell as their OC.

    He did win us a Super Bowl.

    Not sure about that, but he did cost us one. He was afraid to run into “a stacked box” with beastmode against the 31st ranked goal line defense that year, but was dumb enough to throw into that same “stacked box”.

    Lots of revisionist history going on about DB the last few days.
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Re: Oh Jags
Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:17 pm
  • Sports Hernia wrote:
    Jazzhawk wrote:
    Aros wrote:Just saw on Total Access that the Jaguars are hiring Bevell as their OC.

    He did win us a Super Bowl.

    Not sure about that, but he did cost us one. He was afraid to run into “a stacked box” with beastmode against the 31st ranked goal line defense that year, but was dumb enough to throw into that same “stacked box”.

    Lots of revisionist history going on about DB the last few days.


    Speaking of revisionist history.

    The Tom Cable/DB Seahawks were horrible at known short yardage running.

    "The Tip" was only a play because the Seahawks could not score with a first and goal from the 6-yard line.

    Super Bowl 49. 3rd and 1 at NE 8. Lynch got 0 yards. 3rd and 2 at SEA 24 Lynch got 0 yards.

    Passing the ball in that situation was not a mistake. The fact that he had a horrible personnel group out there with a play designed to go to the kick coverage WR was pretty damn stupid.
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Re: Oh Jags
Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:24 pm
  • I guess Jax wants the #1 pick again in 2022.
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Re: Oh Jags
Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:42 am
  • Sports Hernia wrote:
    Jazzhawk wrote:
    Aros wrote:Just saw on Total Access that the Jaguars are hiring Bevell as their OC.

    He did win us a Super Bowl.

    Not sure about that, but he did cost us one. He was afraid to run into “a stacked box” with beastmode against the 31st ranked goal line defense that year, but was dumb enough to throw into that same “stacked box”.

    Lots of revisionist history going on about DB the last few days.



    That’s for sure.

    Worse still he refused to ‘own it’ after that galactically stupid play and blamed on the players for not going hard enough to the ball. I lost any respect for him I had after that and just wanted him gone, gone, gone. Everyone else wore that play that poisoned the team except him.

    DB was more predictable than BS but it was close as both had no to very limited ability to scheme a short quick passing game that employed motion and deception or any consistent use of TEs. Without Wilson and Lynch he was very mediocre. BS was boring and very slow to adjust. The early Let Russ Cook of last season was a shocking aberration.

    Pete needs fresh ideas not predictable schemes at this point.
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Re: Oh Jags
Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:17 am
  • Hard to argue with what Urban Meyer has done as a coach. I don't know if Bevell is the best out there but he doesn't seem to have a problem finding jobs.
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Re: Oh Jags
Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:32 am
  • sdog1981 wrote:
    Sports Hernia wrote:
    Jazzhawk wrote:
    Aros wrote:Just saw on Total Access that the Jaguars are hiring Bevell as their OC.

    He did win us a Super Bowl.

    Not sure about that, but he did cost us one. He was afraid to run into “a stacked box” with beastmode against the 31st ranked goal line defense that year, but was dumb enough to throw into that same “stacked box”.

    Lots of revisionist history going on about DB the last few days.


    Speaking of revisionist history.

    The Tom Cable/DB Seahawks were horrible at known short yardage running.

    "The Tip" was only a play because the Seahawks could not score with a first and goal from the 6-yard line.

    Super Bowl 49. 3rd and 1 at NE 8. Lynch got 0 yards. 3rd and 2 at SEA 24 Lynch got 0 yards.

    Passing the ball in that situation was not a mistake. The fact that he had a horrible personnel group out there with a play designed to go to the kick coverage WR was pretty damn stupid.


    I agree with having no problem passing the ball and i agree throwing it to Lockette is bizarre but if that where the read says to throw it the that's where you throw it. That play was a combination of so many things going wrong for Seattle and a coulple going right for the Pats.
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Re: Oh Jags
Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:00 pm
  • sdog1981 wrote:
    Sports Hernia wrote:
    Jazzhawk wrote:
    Aros wrote:Just saw on Total Access that the Jaguars are hiring Bevell as their OC.

    He did win us a Super Bowl.

    Not sure about that, but he did cost us one. He was afraid to run into “a stacked box” with beastmode against the 31st ranked goal line defense that year, but was dumb enough to throw into that same “stacked box”.

    Lots of revisionist history going on about DB the last few days.


    Speaking of revisionist history.

    The Tom Cable/DB Seahawks were horrible at known short yardage running.

    "The Tip" was only a play because the Seahawks could not score with a first and goal from the 6-yard line.

    Super Bowl 49. 3rd and 1 at NE 8. Lynch got 0 yards. 3rd and 2 at SEA 24 Lynch got 0 yards.

    Passing the ball in that situation was not a mistake. The fact that he had a horrible personnel group out there with a play designed to go to the kick coverage WR was pretty damn stupid.

    We will have to agree to disagree, it was a mistake, it failed epically.
    I could have stomached a safer pass play in an area with less defensive traffic.

    Funny how you leave out the 1st down play right before the “2nd and wrong” where Lynch gained 5 or 6 yards and 5 guys that really didn’t want to tackle him to bring him down. They then panned to Brady after that play with his head in his hands knowing they were about to lose the super bowl.
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Re: Oh Jags
Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:20 pm
  • jammerhawk wrote:
    Sports Hernia wrote:
    Jazzhawk wrote:
    Aros wrote:Just saw on Total Access that the Jaguars are hiring Bevell as their OC.

    He did win us a Super Bowl.

    Not sure about that, but he did cost us one. He was afraid to run into “a stacked box” with beastmode against the 31st ranked goal line defense that year, but was dumb enough to throw into that same “stacked box”.

    Lots of revisionist history going on about DB the last few days.



    That’s for sure.

    Worse still he refused to ‘own it’ after that galactically stupid play and blamed on the players for not going hard enough to the ball. I lost any respect for him I had after that and just wanted him gone, gone, gone. Everyone else wore that play that poisoned the team except him.

    DB was more predictable than BS but it was close as both had no to very limited ability to scheme a short quick passing game that employed motion and deception or any consistent use of TEs. Without Wilson and Lynch he was very mediocre. BS was boring and very slow to adjust. The early Let Russ Cook of last season was a shocking aberration.

    Pete needs fresh ideas not predictable schemes at this point.

    Yep, Bevell not manning up for his epic mistake was a very cowardly move on his part. Saying I’d call the same play again in that situation proves how poor of a coach he was/is.
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Re: Oh Jags
Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:02 am
  • BINGO!

    Good luck Jax!

    My hope is we some genuine creativity from our OC.
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Re: Oh Jags
Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:49 pm
  • jammerhawk wrote:
    My hope is we some genuine creativity from our OC.



    Wouldn't be refreshing to see some innovative play calling?
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Re: Oh Jags
Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:16 pm
  • getnasty wrote:Hard to argue with what Urban Meyer has done as a coach. I don't know if Bevell is the best out there but he doesn't seem to have a problem finding jobs.


    I know lots of people are skeptical, but, Meyer has said that he is done coaching football, to include both the NFL and NCAA. Bevell clearly wants to stay in the NFL so long as there are suckers who will hire him.
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Re: Oh Jags
Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:21 pm
  • Jacksonville doesn't have the talent that Seattle had when Bevell was here. This won't end well.
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Re: Oh Jags
Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:49 pm
  • I'm hoping Bevell can convince them to trade the 1st round for wilson
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Re: Oh Jags
Wed Feb 03, 2021 7:50 pm
  • getnasty wrote:
    sdog1981 wrote:
    Sports Hernia wrote:
    Jazzhawk wrote:He did win us a Super Bowl.

    Not sure about that, but he did cost us one. He was afraid to run into “a stacked box” with beastmode against the 31st ranked goal line defense that year, but was dumb enough to throw into that same “stacked box”.

    Lots of revisionist history going on about DB the last few days.


    Speaking of revisionist history.

    The Tom Cable/DB Seahawks were horrible at known short yardage running.

    "The Tip" was only a play because the Seahawks could not score with a first and goal from the 6-yard line.

    Super Bowl 49. 3rd and 1 at NE 8. Lynch got 0 yards. 3rd and 2 at SEA 24 Lynch got 0 yards.

    Passing the ball in that situation was not a mistake. The fact that he had a horrible personnel group out there with a play designed to go to the kick coverage WR was pretty damn stupid.


    I agree with having no problem passing the ball and i agree throwing it to Lockette is bizarre but if that where the read says to throw it the that's where you throw it. That play was a combination of so many things going wrong for Seattle and a coulple going right for the Pats.

    Everybody forgets that we were most worried about scoring too early and leaving 20-30 seconds for Brady to get into FG range. And he was moving the ball easily against us. Remember Tharold Symon (at least he was #27)? We had enough time for three plays if we passed first. Otherwise it's a timeout and a mandated pass next or last play. At least we didn't score too early which was our #1 concern. Remember Kearse's circus catch came at about 52 seconds left. The biggest bummer is that it was supposed to happen. Then we get a safety on the next play. Two points. Punt we get the ball at our 40-45 with 13 seconds and a time out. RW magic gets us into fg range and we win on the last play. Except Michael Bennet couldn't wait.
    This is something nobody talks about. But what do you think the play the patriots were going to run from the one foot line was? Most people would think a sneak since Brady was almost unstoppable at it. I think no play and never hike the ball. They were always going to wait for us to go offsides. They can do that forever and never give up a safety. The only way they could've given up a safety would be to run a play. I think Bellichek is smart enough to know that.
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