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Deshaun Watson Allegations
Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:22 pm

Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:30 pm
  • Becoming an extremely concerning situation... a horrible, horrible shame if true.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:21 am
  • As a woman and licensed massage therapist in Oregon, this is really concerning to me. Now there are 6 women coming forward with allegations of this nature against this guy.

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... un-watson/

    I used to be a Texans fan. Can't root for them with all the decisions they've made in the last 3 years. Then I was rooting for Watson. Yea, not doing it anymore.

    This makes the Wilson Trade Drama look like nothing.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:07 am
  • I’m gunna wait till the facts come out before casting any judgment.

    In fact, I’m going to wait for the facts before I form an opinion.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:30 am
  • Innocent until proven guilty but it sure doesn't look good for Watson. These are highly detailed descriptions with multiple women coming forward.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:09 am
  • Maybe created this himself to force a trade. Giess if it follows him to San Francisco itll be true...if it goes away then we will know.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:46 am
  • Living in Houston I wish I had never heard of Tony Buzbee. I would be better off for it. The dude is sleazy.

    I want to see how this plays out. Perhaps the Texans are influencing this stuff, perhaps Watson is Darren Sharper. We shall see.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:13 am
  • Its hard to believe they wanted 6 figures and Watson didn't want pay for it to go away...
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:44 pm
  • Wolfiegrrl wrote:As a woman and licensed massage therapist in Oregon, this is really concerning to me. Now there are 6 women coming forward with allegations of this nature against this guy.

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... un-watson/

    I used to be a Texans fan. Can't root for them with all the decisions they've made in the last 3 years. Then I was rooting for Watson. Yea, not doing it anymore.

    This makes the Wilson Trade Drama look like nothing.


    I feel the same way. This isn't one allegation, it is potentially six allegations. That alone is cause for concern.

    It's not on a masseuse or personal care provider to provide erotic stimulation.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:08 pm
  • SantaClaraHawk wrote:
    Wolfiegrrl wrote:As a woman and licensed massage therapist in Oregon, this is really concerning to me. Now there are 6 women coming forward with allegations of this nature against this guy.

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... un-watson/

    I used to be a Texans fan. Can't root for them with all the decisions they've made in the last 3 years. Then I was rooting for Watson. Yea, not doing it anymore.

    This makes the Wilson Trade Drama look like nothing.


    I feel the same way. This isn't one allegation, it is potentially six allegations. That alone is cause for concern.

    It's not on a masseuse or personal care provider to provide erotic stimulation.


    Yes, but half of them are fronts for Prostitution, or you could ask Robert Kraft, or maybe look at all the busts for Prostitution in Bellevue and women that were brought in from Countries for $ex trafficking. One of the buildings I worked in was on the back side adjacent to a massage parlor bust not once, not twice but 5 times before they managed to close it down from what I heard.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:32 pm
  • chris98251 wrote:
    SantaClaraHawk wrote:
    Wolfiegrrl wrote:As a woman and licensed massage therapist in Oregon, this is really concerning to me. Now there are 6 women coming forward with allegations of this nature against this guy.

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... un-watson/

    I used to be a Texans fan. Can't root for them with all the decisions they've made in the last 3 years. Then I was rooting for Watson. Yea, not doing it anymore.

    This makes the Wilson Trade Drama look like nothing.


    I feel the same way. This isn't one allegation, it is potentially six allegations. That alone is cause for concern.

    It's not on a masseuse or personal care provider to provide erotic stimulation.


    Yes, but half of them are fronts for Prostitution, or you could ask Robert Kraft, or maybe look at all the busts for Prostitution in Bellevue and women that were brought in from Countries for $ex trafficking. One of the buildings I worked in was on the back side adjacent to a massage parlor bust not once, not twice but 5 times before they managed to close it down from what I heard.


    Oh, I understand completely, but there are multiple issues going on here.

    It's illegal to pay for happy endings. Sure, people do it, but when you're a big NFL figure with a moral clause baked into the contract, I'd expect that to be handled at least legally with a visit to a legal Nevada brothel where contacting for that is legal.

    The repercussions increase with allegations that some of this was nonconsensual, which is what is going on now.

    One, maybe even two women, maybe that's a groupie thing. But Florio now says the lawsuits will be up to nine.

    Whatever happened, something did to result in nine separate lawsuits and it creates a distrubing let alone illegal pattern. One that the NFL is correct to investigate.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:15 pm
  • At times like this, I'm really happy we have someone of character at QB. Sure, he's human too, but Russ seems to busy to even get caught up in this sort of thing. Plus, with Ciara at home...
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:41 pm
  • SantaClaraHawk wrote:
    chris98251 wrote:
    SantaClaraHawk wrote:
    Wolfiegrrl wrote:As a woman and licensed massage therapist in Oregon, this is really concerning to me. Now there are 6 women coming forward with allegations of this nature against this guy.

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... un-watson/

    I used to be a Texans fan. Can't root for them with all the decisions they've made in the last 3 years. Then I was rooting for Watson. Yea, not doing it anymore.

    This makes the Wilson Trade Drama look like nothing.


    I feel the same way. This isn't one allegation, it is potentially six allegations. That alone is cause for concern.

    It's not on a masseuse or personal care provider to provide erotic stimulation.


    Yes, but half of them are fronts for Prostitution, or you could ask Robert Kraft, or maybe look at all the busts for Prostitution in Bellevue and women that were brought in from Countries for $ex trafficking. One of the buildings I worked in was on the back side adjacent to a massage parlor bust not once, not twice but 5 times before they managed to close it down from what I heard.


    Oh, I understand completely, but there are multiple issues going on here.

    It's illegal to pay for happy endings. Sure, people do it, but when you're a big NFL figure with a moral clause baked into the contract, I'd expect that to be handled at least legally with a visit to a legal Nevada brothel where contacting for that is legal.

    The repercussions increase with allegations that some of this was nonconsensual, which is what is going on now.

    One, maybe even two women, maybe that's a groupie thing. But Florio now says the lawsuits will be up to nine.

    Whatever happened, something did to result in nine separate lawsuits and it creates a distrubing let alone illegal pattern. One that the NFL is correct to investigate.


    9 huh, well not having read anything other then headlines, were they all in one location, if a place is a front I could see 9 incidents, and then finding out who he is doing a blackmail approach, Kraft paid off his stuff, you know he did for it to just go away. If they were doing something illegal then this would be a payday. Getting the women to say he had them give him some kind of extra service and then claiming it was forced would not be outside the realm of a place of that nature.

    Just throwing darts but 9 and now all at once coming out?
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:35 am
  • i had the sense they were indies given that at least some of this happened when Watson hired them to come to his home for a massage--but it is sus that all nine are apparently being repped by this one lawyer, but it's also sus that there are nine, even so.

    So true or not, there's now an investigation into the nonconsensuality, which is going to spill over into whether said services can be legally expected in that context at his location, and the answer is no.

    I really wonder about why a guy--any guy--with that much reputation and money on the line WOULDN'T be super careful around this. I mean, wouldn't you just see your CMT as another medical/wellness person tasked with keeping your bod in football shape, and wouldn't you put the hookups in another lane, just to be safer for you? Because guilty or no, now he has to deal with all this.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:20 am
  • SantaClaraHawk wrote:i had the sense they were indies given that at least some of this happened when Watson hired them to come to his home for a massage--but it is sus that all nine are apparently being repped by this one lawyer, but it's also sus that there are nine, even so.

    So true or not, there's now an investigation into the nonconsensuality, which is going to spill over into whether said services can be legally expected in that context at his location, and the answer is no.

    I really wonder about why a guy--any guy--with that much reputation and money on the line WOULDN'T be super careful around this. I mean, wouldn't you just see your CMT as another medical/wellness person tasked with keeping your bod in football shape, and wouldn't you put the hookups in another lane, just to be safer for you? Because guilty or no, now he has to deal with all this.


    I've seen some of the posts on the Texans Reddit. Sadly, the lawyer for these women is known to be rather sleezy. The lawyer is doing a press conference via Facebook Live today, from what I've heard. At the same time, the McNairs' have a requirement that all Texans players be stand up 'Christian' men with high morals and values. Anytime one of the players has run into a legal (read that moral) issue, they get cut or traded. With all this coming out, I almost wouldn't put it passed the Texans front office to use it as a reason to get rid of the kid. At this point, the NFL is looking into it and he may be facing suspension anyway.

    I'm not sure what to believe on Watson. He was nothing but helpful to the people of Houston when he arrived. He's done charitable things for the city and such. But the red flag that got me early on in his rookie season was him dating a prawn star. To each their own. However, it seems that Watson was soliciting women for massage services off of Instagram. These women were not Registered, Certified, or Licensed. One flew from Atlanta out to Houston.

    Now, I've been a Licensed Massage Therapist in Oregon for 18 years. Professionally, I wouldn't fly anywhere to give an NFL QB a massage in a hotel or his home or whatever. That just invites the wrong kind of meaning to the massage session.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:07 am
  • https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... un-watson/
    (includes texts allegedly from Watson)

    So from the above, it appears one gotcha is that they have Watson on text asking the masseuse if she would feel comfortable working on his glutes, and then a text from him saying to the effect, "sorry you felt uncomfortable, didn't want to do that and hope we can work again sometime."
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:38 am
  • Wolfiegrrl wrote:
    Now, I've been a Licensed Massage Therapist in Oregon for 18 years. Professionally, I wouldn't fly anywhere to give an NFL QB a massage in a hotel or his home or whatever. That just invites the wrong kind of meaning to the massage session.


    I hear what you're saying. I just wish people in general would see CMT as a legit wellness position, same as a chiropractor or an acupuncturist. That's it. That's what a CMT does.

    Him going to Insta to recruit unlicensed people without training instead of getting a referral to not only a CMT, but one specifically trained in sports massage techniques, does suggest that his expectation was for something more.

    So already he's in the position of saying that he was paying for a legal service (massage) and that nothing was sexual, or if it was, the sexual part was technically separate. But then the specific lawsuits are about SA, so even if the $ex was kinda part of a quasi-deal, it's still true people can't force them into doing acts that they didn't want.

    Some Florio commentators are theorizing this may be the machinations of the McNairs to ruin his trade market so he'll have to stay and play for the Texans. Well even if this gets him to show up for them, he's going to be even more angry and disinclined to do a good job, so I'm skeptical of that theory.

    Gut feeling, everything's probably somewhere in the middle on a lot of what happened here, but it's clear Watson exercised some irresponsibility here at least over his own brand and image.

    EDIT 1: All the lawsuits themselves are here:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Texans/comment ... ad_part_2/
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:16 am
  • SantaClaraHawk wrote:https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/18/attorney-promises-to-release-multiple-texts-from-deshaun-watson/
    (includes texts allegedly from Watson)

    So from the above, it appears one gotcha is that they have Watson on text asking the masseuse if she would feel comfortable working on his glutes, and then a text from him saying to the effect, "sorry you felt uncomfortable, didn't want to do that and hope we can work again sometime."


    I’m guessing he (it rhymes with emasculate).
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:27 pm
  • Mizak wrote:
    SantaClaraHawk wrote:https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/18/attorney-promises-to-release-multiple-texts-from-deshaun-watson/
    (includes texts allegedly from Watson)

    So from the above, it appears one gotcha is that they have Watson on text asking the masseuse if she would feel comfortable working on his glutes, and then a text from him saying to the effect, "sorry you felt uncomfortable, didn't want to do that and hope we can work again sometime."


    I’m guessing he (it rhymes with emasculate).


    LOL, I went through some of the suits on the link, and a lot of them are him allegedly trying to get the woman to focus on the "insertion point" of the hamstring, or his inner groin muscles, while he was fully tumescent and nude.

    Most CMTs doing only the fully legit side do understand that erections can happen, but SOP for that is to put a cool towel on the area and leave until that state subsides.

    Having read at least three of these complaints though, it sounds like Watson had kind of a "nurse fantasy" kink or something like that. Which he should have indulged w/those who were down with that, which would have meant making the job duties clear.

    Most disturbingly from the complaints, tho, is that it appears part of Watson's kink was seeing these women get progressively more uncomfortable about it with their resistance--like it HAD to be real to him. And if true, that is total BS on his part.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:46 pm
  • Buzbee said that one of the masseuses was referred to Watson by a member of the Texans organization and another by his private quarterback coach Quincy Avery. He added that one of the accusations against Watson concerns an incident in the last month and that it happened after Watson was aware of the allegations being made against him.

    Buzbee said he’s been contacted by the Houston Police Department and that his office will cooperate with investigations into Watson’s conduct by law enforcement and/or the NFL.


    Now that lawyer has 12 lawsuits, not nine. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... un-watson/
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:14 pm
  • Either way the truth goes it looks like we have a group of women being used by a sleazy man.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:15 pm
  • Wolfiegrrl wrote:As a woman and licensed massage therapist in Oregon, this is really concerning to me. Now there are 6 women coming forward with allegations of this nature against this guy.

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... un-watson/

    I used to be a Texans fan. Can't root for them with all the decisions they've made in the last 3 years. Then I was rooting for Watson. Yea, not doing it anymore.

    This makes the Wilson Trade Drama look like nothing.


    As a massage therapist would it not be a red flag that this guy was willing to fly you in to give him a massage?
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:26 pm
  • brimsalabim wrote:
    Wolfiegrrl wrote:As a woman and licensed massage therapist in Oregon, this is really concerning to me. Now there are 6 women coming forward with allegations of this nature against this guy.

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... un-watson/

    I used to be a Texans fan. Can't root for them with all the decisions they've made in the last 3 years. Then I was rooting for Watson. Yea, not doing it anymore.

    This makes the Wilson Trade Drama look like nothing.


    As a massage therapist would it not be a red flag that this guy was willing to fly you in to give him a massage?


    Florio reports that one of the women was a referral from the Texans. Another was from his private QB coach. If I were doing that work, it's almost like the opportunity that Brady took with his holistic guy, who probably wouldn't have been who he is, without Brady.

    So I don't blame those women (the ones above) for seeing it as a legit business op.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:24 pm
  • The things the plaintiff is describing are absolutely disgusting, and scary I'm stunned that Deshaun Watson would act that way because he seems like such a great guy, and caring person.

    And why do people keep thinking that they can treat a masseuse this way and get away with it? Once she says she's not comfortable, pay her for her trip and let her go!

    It doesn't matter if you're a celebrity, or if you're wealthy, or both! Everyone deserves the same level of respect!
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:38 pm
  • Thanks. I’m not blaming the masseuses either. Just interested to hear your opinions. There is a big difference between a CMT and a massage parlor too. It sounds like Watson wanted the kind of places that nut job shot up in Atlanta or the place in Miami that Craft got arrested in.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:19 pm
  • brimsalabim wrote:Thanks. I’m not blaming the masseuses either. Just interested to hear your opinions. There is a big difference between a CMT and a massage parlor too. It sounds like Watson wanted the kind of places that nut job shot up in Atlanta or the place in Miami that Craft got arrested in.


    Why are you slandering the people who died at the hands of a racist murderer. Those shops were legal businesses. You using them to push your lame take is the same as the pos cop telling the world the murder had a bad day.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Sat Mar 20, 2021 7:08 am
  • brimsalabim wrote:
    Wolfiegrrl wrote:As a woman and licensed massage therapist in Oregon, this is really concerning to me. Now there are 6 women coming forward with allegations of this nature against this guy.

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... un-watson/

    I used to be a Texans fan. Can't root for them with all the decisions they've made in the last 3 years. Then I was rooting for Watson. Yea, not doing it anymore.

    This makes the Wilson Trade Drama look like nothing.


    As a massage therapist would it not be a red flag that this guy was willing to fly you in to give him a massage?


    Sure it's a red flag. But I've also known massage therapists who've worked with athletes, celebrities, and even presidents without the implication of being a $ex worker.

    For 6 years I taught and managed a massage therapy program. In massage school, the students are taught how to screen for this kind of thing. We go over this kind of stuff a lot. How to spot it. How to handle it. How to stay away from it. Keywords to listen for when screening a client in order to avoid situations such as this.

    The one gal that flew out from Atlanta is a single mom that was hoping to make enough money to go to school for massage. But then again, she was advertising she's doing massage on Instagram without any freaking training. I feel bad for her and what she experienced. However, had she taken classes, she'd have known "if it seems too good to be true, it probably is".

    I'm not blaming her at all. Just saying she would have been better prepared had she gone to school first.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:00 am
  • Wolfiegrrl wrote:
    brimsalabim wrote:
    Wolfiegrrl wrote:As a woman and licensed massage therapist in Oregon, this is really concerning to me. Now there are 6 women coming forward with allegations of this nature against this guy.

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... un-watson/

    I used to be a Texans fan. Can't root for them with all the decisions they've made in the last 3 years. Then I was rooting for Watson. Yea, not doing it anymore.

    This makes the Wilson Trade Drama look like nothing.


    As a massage therapist would it not be a red flag that this guy was willing to fly you in to give him a massage?


    Sure it's a red flag. But I've also known massage therapists who've worked with athletes, celebrities, and even presidents without the implication of being a $ex worker.

    For 6 years I taught and managed a massage therapy program. In massage school, the students are taught how to screen for this kind of thing. We go over this kind of stuff a lot. How to spot it. How to handle it. How to stay away from it. Keywords to listen for when screening a client in order to avoid situations such as this.

    The one gal that flew out from Atlanta is a single mom that was hoping to make enough money to go to school for massage. But then again, she was advertising she's doing massage on Instagram without any freaking training. I feel bad for her and what she experienced. However, had she taken classes, she'd have known "if it seems too good to be true, it probably is".

    I'm not blaming her at all. Just saying she would have been better prepared had she gone to school first.


    Well then we have the cases of people who were certified and licensed and/or recommended by a QB trainer or Texans staff themselves. They got treated the same way or worse as seen in the December 2020 complaint. which involves allegations of that licensed and trained CMT being coerced into oral $ex and blacking out and literally defecating on herself.

    i'm not blaming her or any of the now 22 people either, but one thing I think needs to happen here is that the licensing boards make it crystal what the rules are in the house, namely that a person's wellness needs and their erotic needs cannot be met for pay by someone licensed for the former. After all, we do that for shrinks, and chiros, and acupuncturists. We do that for everyone else in the medical commmunity.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Sat Mar 20, 2021 12:54 pm
  • One lesson here is that we shouldn't believe the manufactured image that these athletes and their P.R. teams create for themselves. I've been reading some Houston fan posts on the situation, and they legitimately don't believe the stories because of how "great a guy Watson is". Meanwhile, none of them have ever spent time with him in a personal setting to know what type of person he is.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:24 pm
  • knownone wrote:One lesson here is that we shouldn't believe the manufactured image that these athletes and their P.R. teams create for themselves. I've been reading some Houston fan posts on the situation, and they legitimately don't believe the stories because of how "great a guy Watson is". Meanwhile, none of them have ever spent time with him in a personal setting to know what type of person he is.

    It’s really not that surprising. Most athletes are not the Saints they paint themselves out to be.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Sat Mar 20, 2021 6:21 pm
  • Sounds like a Belicheat guy to me. The Pats may have found their next star QB.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Sat Mar 20, 2021 6:53 pm
  • JustTheTip wrote:Sounds like a Belicheat guy to me. The Pats may have found their next star QB.


    With 22 women having filed or consulting to file suit against him, I'm really wondering whether the league will allow him to play at all until much of this is resolved.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:34 pm
  • https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... un-watson/
    “Per advice from a well known criminal defense attorney,” Buzbee said Saturday night on social media, “[o]ur team will be submitting affidavits and evidence from several women, who had experiences with Deshaun Watson, to the Houston Police Department and the Houston District Attorney, on Monday morning. We will request that a grand jury be empaneled to consider the evidence we provide.”


    I think there's an ethical quandary around being a civil lawyer for the plaintiff and saying publicly that you're pushing the cops to investigate. The conflict is in the amount of any judgment or settlement, which the lawyer typically receives 30 to 40 percent of.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:30 am
  • I'm not sure what to believe..
    On one hand there is this civil suit..On other there was not one police complaint
    filed when it happened.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:05 pm
  • SantaClaraHawk wrote:
    JustTheTip wrote:Sounds like a Belicheat guy to me. The Pats may have found their next star QB.


    With 22 women having filed or consulting to file suit against him, I'm really wondering whether the league will allow him to play at all until much of this is resolved.


    For the Pats.... as long as he isn't arrested for murder.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:32 am
  • JustTheTip wrote:
    SantaClaraHawk wrote:
    JustTheTip wrote:Sounds like a Belicheat guy to me. The Pats may have found their next star QB.


    With 22 women having filed or consulting to file suit against him, I'm really wondering whether the league will allow him to play at all until much of this is resolved.


    For the Pats.... as long as he isn't arrested for murder.

    Imo a better fit for the Steelers.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Mon Mar 22, 2021 8:27 am
  • Niners are still interested in this guy.


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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:02 am
  • 11 different women have alleged Watson made them touch his body inappropriately. Dwayne Haskins calls this a Tuesday night.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:41 am
  • UK_Seahawk wrote:11 different women have alleged Watson made them touch his body inappropriately. Dwayne Haskins calls this a Tuesday night.


    I have not heard of any sexual assault allegations filed against Haskins. Why are you comparing the two in this way?

    I think I know why you are doing it but maybe you can explain.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:12 pm
  • James in PA wrote:Niners are still interested in this guy.


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    If the Niners even brought him in for a visit, major social uproar would be had, probably led by Ann Killion at the SF Chronicle. She used to be on their masthead as an interim managing editor/EE or something like that. Before long everyone would be saying the 9ers haven't learned anything since the Charles Haley days.

    There's that, plus the fact that the 9ers don't really have cap if they trade for Deshaun's price as it was maybe eight days ago.

    At this point, it'd have to be almost like a situation where they take on the contract, get a JJ-Watt caliber player from there, plus two first rounders to even think about it.

    Then there's the fact that whoever has Watson on their team may not be able to use him due to the extant possibility of him being put on the commissioner's list.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:01 pm
  • Before this is over, Watson will be begging to play for the Texans. The problem with allegations like these is that you never know who to believe. I don't want to see a guy's career ruined by some gold digging attorney and his clients but if Watson is truly guilty then he should be behind bars.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:59 am
  • It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. It's one thing when it's he said, she said in regards to jumping to the conclusion of the woman gold digging. But this is now he said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said.

    This is starting to feel Cosby-esque, not in exact terms of the offense, but in terms of serial behavior.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:04 am
  • Seanhawk wrote:It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. It's one thing when it's he said, she said in regards to jumping to the conclusion of the woman gold digging. But this is now he said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said.

    This is starting to feel Cosby-esque, not in exact terms of the offense, but in terms of serial behavior.


    For many decades Cosby was known to be a really swell guy until he wasn't . There are many Jekyll / Hyde people in the world .
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:28 am
  • This is creepy stuff.

    This dude could walk into any random bar and have women all over him. I don't understand his thought process....

    Is he Canadian by chance?
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:07 pm
  • acer1240 wrote:This is creepy stuff.

    This dude could walk into any random bar and have women all over him. I don't understand his thought process....

    Is he Canadian by chance?


    This whole thing is just such stupidity on Watson's part.

    He could have arranged for this very legally. Like at a legal Nevada brothel, where they go over all the acts. HJ this, BJ this, any butthole moves this, shower this, massage this. Probably no extra charge for her doing the "nice girl act" for it!

    He could have arranged for this illegally too, and who knows among these suits, but already it's becoming clear there was illegal beyond-Kraft level illegal going on.

    Few people get gifted with the chance to earn $40M and more before they're 35, 40, get national accolades so they can be national sports anchors and such after they quit football. I can't believe ppl who jeopardize that for basically what they think is free poosey, esp when its owner does not see it that way.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:48 am
  • I think you nailed it SCH.

    Good stuff.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:53 am
  • SantaClaraHawk wrote:
    acer1240 wrote:This is creepy stuff.

    This dude could walk into any random bar and have women all over him. I don't understand his thought process....

    Is he Canadian by chance?


    This whole thing is just such stupidity on Watson's part.

    He could have arranged for this very legally. Like at a legal Nevada brothel, where they go over all the acts. HJ this, BJ this, any butthole moves this, shower this, massage this. Probably no extra charge for her doing the "nice girl act" for it!

    He could have arranged for this illegally too, and who knows among these suits, but already it's becoming clear there was illegal beyond-Kraft level illegal going on.

    Few people get gifted with the chance to earn $40M and more before they're 35, 40, get national accolades so they can be national sports anchors and such after they quit football. I can't believe ppl who jeopardize that for basically what they think is free poosey, esp when its owner does not see it that way.


    Soooooo......

    THIS is my problem. He's not an idiot.

    I agree with the statement that if he's guilty he should be behind bars. No excuse for this.

    However, I have real problems with the way this has been presented. Its clear the attorney has an agenda. That in itself does not absolve Watson, but it just really feels like this is a coordinated plan to just inundate the airwaves with so many accusations that they are impossible to refute. It feels like the endgame is for all of these women to sue for the lowest amount legally possible to be able to say "its not about the money" but in reality the goal here is for Watson to settle the suits for BIG $$$ out of court to save his reputation. That's why this was announced on Instagram. You don't get to say "this isn't about publicity" when you include a picture of Watson and an accusation via Instagram. You don't post a letter from the NFL requesting to speak to your clients unless you are looking for publicity.

    As I said before...none of that by itself absolves Watson. It still leaves the unanswered question of how there are so many accusers. Do we assume they are all lying? Dunno.

    The biggest problem to me though is the lack of any reports to police. Yes, many women don't come forward because they don't want that spotlight. That is totally understandable...but like 22? NONE came forward? Some saw him AGAIN afterward? So, you get assaulted and then go back? What?

    I REALLY hope there is no truth to this stuff, but its hard to say that with so many accusers...but kinda feels like that's EXACTLY they way the attorney wants me to look at it. He's molding that exact narrative.

    So...again...none of that absolves Watson. I dunno if he did it or not, but really hard to not look at the behavior of the attorney and not see something fishy.
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:00 am
  • Maybe Watson should have chosen his massage therapists more carefully....
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Re: Deshaun Watson Allegations
Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:02 am
  • I understand what you are saying Marvin.

    That lawyer is a sleazy piece of crap which adds a lot of questions.

    I agree with you that I hope none of it is true and that no assults took place.

    It's not looking good though.
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