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Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:27 pm
  • Starting new thread because:

    1) Transfer and Early Departure activity is really about next year.
    2) Always fun to torture those who just hate Gonzaga.

    Rui has declared, which was expected. Very interested to see about Clarke, Tillie and Norvell. I think Clarke and Tillie both make the leap, with Norvell at least testing the waters. Norvell has a lot to gain coming back as he will be the top guy in the back court and should really be able to improve his game.

    Tillie may not be ready for the NBA but he'll make plenty of money in Europe. Clarke is an interesting case I'm not really sure what his NBA prospects are but he's definitely got everyone's attention and I'm not sure coming back increases his value.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:19 pm
  • Rui and Clarke are gone and it seems as though Norvell is gone as well. Which surprises me greatly. He isn't ready and would do himself a lot of good improving his ball handling skills and getting some PG duties. Not sure if he is just testing the waters but the way he is handling it, it makes it seem like he is gone. Perplexing decision because he is the only one of the four that could fall entirely out of the draft and is certainly not a first round pick. Whatever, its his life and his choice and if he goes I hope it works out for him.

    Tillie will be gone as well I am sure. If he doesn't get drafted I am sure he will make good money overseas.

    As for the 2019-2020 Zags its going to be a rough year I expect. First year in a long time the possibility of not making the tournament is very real. I don't expect that but certainly wouldn't be shocked.
    Lot of incoming young talent, perhaps the best class we have ever had but some of the recruits are extremely young and all are inexperienced obviously.
    We will have at least 3 true freshman starters and more freshman coming off the bench. I expect some rough games to start the year but hopefully Few can get this team playing well in time for the tournament.
    I would be ecstatic if we would be able to keep our sweet sixteen streak going.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:33 am
  • Killie declares and now Petrusev as well? 5 guys in the draft pool? It's possible 1 or more may pull back but this is insane.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Thu May 02, 2019 8:37 pm
  • How many years before Gonzaga beats UW again?
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Thu May 02, 2019 8:38 pm
  • Tical21 wrote:How many years before Gonzaga beats UW again?

    Next year.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Sun May 05, 2019 2:10 pm
  • Zags pick up one of, if not the best, PG transfer this year in Admon Gilder. This is huge for GU as they were in dire need of an experienced PG that could run a team. Ravet is a good player but that is asking a lot of a freshman (who played at state B level) to come in and run this team. I think he will contribute, especially offensively, but I bet Admon is the starter.
    He brings top notch defensive ability and a lot of experience. This is really big for the Zags tournament chances next year.
    Some are saying the Zags will pick up another guard transfer as well so they are not done yet.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Sun May 05, 2019 3:17 pm
  • Yeah this was huge the backcourt was awfully thin.

    I think Killie comes back but looks like Norvell will rate a 2nd round pick so that will probably be enough for him to make the jump.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:54 am
  • Well Tillie is back and as I surmised Norvell wasn't even drafted. I have no idea why he was so intent on leaving. Maybe bad info? He said he was being told he would be drafted in the 20 to 40 range and when I heard that I just kind of rolled my eyes. I think he really believed that.
    He would have been well served to come back and work on his game this off season. Not even drafted does not bode well for him.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:01 am
  • Yeah it sucks about Norvell but I think he'll play in the D-league and eventually make some money overseas. It didn't really do him any good to stay another year.

    Hard to really predict the team this year. Going to rely on a lot of freshman. Just seems to me that if they have to play Brock Ravet big minutes that doesn't bode well. Not sure how I feel about going from AA league to big time NCAA. St. Mary's brings back most of their roster so this may be their year.... although if the new talent steps up Gonzaga will still be heavy favorites.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:28 pm
  • Hawkstorian: Ravet played in Class 2B for Kittitas, enrollment under 200. VERY small school. The enrollment figure I found for his school was about 140
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:02 pm
  • Yeah -- he probably should redshirt and practice against top competition for a year but the way this roster is shaping up he might start.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:14 am
  • All I know is that UW has a great chance of beating Gonzaga.

    Norvell did what a lot of college kids do, they opt for the NBA even if there is a chance they go undrafted. Kids don't want to be in college, they want to play in the developmental leagues or overseas and make money. Just because you go back to college another season or two doesn't mean you will improve your stock. If he wasn't getting drafted this season, not sure going back to Gonzaga would have helped him all that much.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:05 pm
  • Added another grad transfer guard. It will be good to have more experience in the backcourt and give Brock time to develop.

    I still have no idea how good this team will be. Totally agree that GU vs. UW is a fair fight for the first time in a long while.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:13 am
  • The backcourt is said to be maybe one of the best defensive back courts GU has had. Zags will make march madness. Its way too early to see how deep.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:34 pm
  • I find it laughable so many try to say another year to develop will not help. It has helped many GU players in the past and they went on to be drafted after not even being on mock draft sites in the years prior.
    Norvell had a LOT of stuff to work on. His handle is poor his shooting is spotty and his defense was so so. I knew the minute he declared he was not going to be drafted. I hope he manages to work his way into the league but he has a TOUGH road ahead of him to make it.
    I'm not of the mind set that they have to stay but he would have been better served to stay and improve his stock because now teams have nothing invested in him. You get drafted and they are committed to that pick for at least a few years.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:21 pm
  • Natethegreat wrote:I find it laughable so many try to say another year to develop will not help. It has helped many GU players in the past and they went on to be drafted after not even being on mock draft sites in the years prior.
    Norvell had a LOT of stuff to work on. His handle is poor his shooting is spotty and his defense was so so. I knew the minute he declared he was not going to be drafted. I hope he manages to work his way into the league but he has a TOUGH road ahead of him to make it.
    I'm not of the mind set that they have to stay but he would have been better served to stay and improve his stock because now teams have nothing invested in him. You get drafted and they are committed to that pick for at least a few years.


    But just because he goes back doesn't mean he will improve his draft stock. How many guys stay all four years, and then go undrafted? Each player is unique, but for every guy that improves his draft stock by staying, there is a guy who hurts his draft stock by staying. But most cases, guys stock stays the same. I would much rather leave college and make money overseas or in the developmental league than stay four years and do the same.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:35 am
  • It's so strange how most of the recruiting news now is about bigs. Then they have to scramble to finish the roster with grad transfer guards. I wonder if this is just how it's going to be for the next few years.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Sat Oct 19, 2019 5:19 pm
  • Reports are that GU beat Michigan State today pretty handily(103-87). Its just a scrimmage but that is encouraging as most expect MSU to be ranked number 1 to start the year.
    Our guards were said to be very solid which would be huge. Our frontline we already know will be good. Tillie didn't even play in the game
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:28 am
  • Natethegreat wrote:Reports are that GU beat Michigan State today pretty handily(103-87). Its just a scrimmage but that is encouraging as most expect MSU to be ranked number 1 to start the year.
    Our guards were said to be very solid which would be huge. Our frontline we already know will be good. Tillie didn't even play in the game

    Oh my, very encouraging
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:40 pm
  • Yep beat MSU.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:05 pm
  • AP rank is #8 pre-season which is pretty crazy considering it's going to be a rotation loaded with freshmen and transfers. I'm very curious to see how it all pans out.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:56 pm
  • Hawkstorian wrote:AP rank is #8 pre-season which is pretty crazy considering it's going to be a rotation loaded with freshmen and transfers. I'm very curious to see how it all pans out.

    That seems high though the scrimmage beating of MSU gives me some hope it might not be. Considering the youth on the team, I'll be very happy with a Sweet 16 appearance. Anything beyond that will be gravy and very dependent on matchups.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:15 pm
  • Brock Ravet taking indefinite leave of absence from GU. Not sure whats going on but that leaves GU very thin at guard. Unfortunate, I was looking forward to watching him play.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:09 am
  • Natethegreat wrote:Brock Ravet taking indefinite leave of absence from GU. Not sure whats going on but that leaves GU very thin at guard. Unfortunate, I was looking forward to watching him play.

    Hope he's OK emotionally
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:41 am
  • First game of the season vs. Alabama State tonight, 5:00 PM on ROOT
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:27 pm
  • Pretty easy 2 wins. The team looks good on offense.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:04 pm
  • I have no idea how good Texas A&M is this year but GU beats them by 30 tonight. A&M struggled to score but I'm not sure if it was good D or poor teamwork on A@M's part. Regardless thats an SEC team that was throttled nonetheless.

    Looking forward to watching this team progress. Seems like a lot of guys were dinged up tonight. Would sure like to see Tillie make it back.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:15 am
  • Natethegreat wrote:I have no idea how good Texas A&M is this year but GU beats them by 30 tonight. A&M struggled to score but I'm not sure if it was good D or poor teamwork on A@M's part. Regardless thats an SEC team that was throttled nonetheless.

    Looking forward to watching this team progress. Seems like a lot of guys were dinged up tonight. Would sure like to see Tillie make it back.


    A&M was picked to finish near last in the SEC by most experts. Yeah they are power five team, but they would likely finish near the middle if they were in the WCC. We probably won’t know how great Gonzaga is until they play that three game stretch against UW, Arizona and UNC.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Sat Nov 16, 2019 9:46 pm
  • Yeah, I don't think that A&M is any good. Regardless it was still encouraging to see them go on the road and win like that.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:22 am
  • Hawk-Lock wrote:
    Natethegreat wrote:I have no idea how good Texas A&M is this year but GU beats them by 30 tonight. A&M struggled to score but I'm not sure if it was good D or poor teamwork on A@M's part. Regardless thats an SEC team that was throttled nonetheless.

    Looking forward to watching this team progress. Seems like a lot of guys were dinged up tonight. Would sure like to see Tillie make it back.


    A&M was picked to finish near last in the SEC by most experts. Yeah they are power five team, but they would likely finish near the middle if they were in the WCC. We probably won’t know how great Gonzaga is until they play that three game stretch against UW, Arizona and UNC.

    Agree. A&M was a very poor offensive team. Not bad defensively though. And yeah, that 3 gamer gonna be huge. C'mon Killian, get healthy!
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:47 am
  • About to get a lot more real for the Zags. Good to see Tillie back and playing well (no surprise).
    Man their shooting though, both from the field and worse, from the line, is not pretty. Guard play is not great which is no surprise. Knew going into the season it would be a weakness. Hate to say this, but if they face Oregon in the Bahamas, Peyton Pritchard gonna have Woolridge and Gilder for lunch and dinner.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:55 pm
  • Big test this week .... I'm still not sure this team is top-10 right now but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:55 pm
  • Hawkstorian wrote:Big test this week .... I'm still not sure this team is top-10 right now but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

    I feel the same on both accounts
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:26 pm
  • Sadly it appears that it's time to accept that Killian Tillie will never be fully healthy again. Guy has the talent to play the 3 at an all-star level in the NBA at 6'11" but I fear his injuries will keep him from ever realizing that promise.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:39 pm
  • Yeah, its a real bummer for him just can't seem to stay healthy. Nice to see Kispert seems to be out of his shooting slump.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:55 pm
  • Natethegreat wrote:Yeah, its a real bummer for him just can't seem to stay healthy. Nice to see Kispert seems to be out of his shooting slump.

    Yeah they need that too to keep teams from clogging the middle on Filip and Timme
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:32 am
  • Lots of injuries last night. Apparently the playing surface is not good. Tillie says he will try and play but both starting guards could be out.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:35 am
  • Natethegreat wrote:Lots of injuries last night. Apparently the playing surface is not good. Tillie says he will try and play but both starting guards could be out.

    Yeah I saw Woolridge go out but had no idea Gilder went out early in the 2nd half. Watson out too I'd guess. Tillie "will try" doesn't sound promising :(
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:22 pm
  • Hell yeah
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:06 pm
  • Zags just continue to prove they're a national powerhouse. Nuff said....Date with Michigan.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:34 am
  • Good win, some questionable calls kept Oregon in it at the end to send it to over time. Zags have a lot of guys injured right now so to play through it and get the win is a real testament to the team. Wish Anton was able to play right now.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Fri Nov 29, 2019 5:38 am
  • Damned good Thanksgiving, a Zags win against the Ducks and a Dallas loss. Only thing that would've made it great was a Falcons win over NO to help the Hawks with seeding.

    Gonzaga gutted out a tough win. Gave up way too many offensive rebounds to a shorter team (18 I believe I read). I was shouting "For the love of God rebound the basketball" at the TV on quite a number of occasions. Likely a product of fatigue due to injuries thinning the roster/limiting playing time and other guys playing too many minutes. Got a less than super confident feeling about the Michigan game because of the fatigue factor but have no doubt they'll be in it til the end.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:43 am
  • Michigan sure looked good against UNC I will be very impressed if they win the championship. This team has been much better than I thought they would be. Especially with Tillie so limited, Ballo not being permitted to play, and Anton being injured.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:53 pm
  • Zags look tired. Especially Petrusev, he has been awful, missing easy buckets right under the basket.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:55 pm
  • Horrible first half, way too many turnovers including 4 possessions in a row late in the half, missing easy shots, giving up offensive rebounds. 7 man rotation playing their 3rd game in about 40 hours ain't helping. Petrusev looks poor against players his size which is not encouraging for the Big Dance.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:03 pm
  • If Few gets this team to the Sweet 16 to keep the string of the most Sweet 16s in a row of any school in the country going it'll be his best coaching job ever.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:49 pm
  • No clue how Michigan isn't ranked (they will be now). They looked like a Top 10 team during this Atlantis tourney. I'm concerned with Zags guard play....we'll really see how good they are when they play Mike Hopkin's zone in about a week.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:57 pm
  • Their guard play is terrible minus Kispert. Woolridge doesn't belong. He is tenative, a poor shot, and can't make free throws. Post players are young and weak but will obviously improve as the season progresses. They probably will win their division and get knocked out in the second round.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:37 pm
  • Zags will be fortunate to go 1-2 in the upcoming stretch of at UW, at Arizona, home vs. North Carolina. 0-3 wold not surprise me. They can't shoot the 3 much at all, give up way too many offensive rebounds, guard defense is not good and go through very sloppy stretches. Oh, and the free throw shooting has droughts too.
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Re: Gonzaga BB 2019-20 Thread
Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:05 pm
  • Tical21 wrote:How many years before Gonzaga beats UW again?

    So let's see you posted this on May 2nd and Gonzaga beat them on December 8th so that's 7 months and 6 days by my calculations. So the answer to your question of how many years till Gonzaga beat the Huskies again would be zero. Okay I'll be nice, a half a year.



    Just a reminder, Zags have beaten UW 6 in a row and 13 out of 14.
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