I woujld like to like other sports--specifically basketball and soccer. But in watching several games, I don't really get it from an entertainment perspective. This makes me sad. I have tried to follow the Warriors (in-market here) and have gone to their games (pricey) but haven't gotten invested in them as a team or as a sport even knowing the basic rules and with lots of knowlegeable fans I can ask stupid questions to without embarrassment. Soccer is a worldwide phenom, as such I've watched their games but it's just people kicking the ball to me.

Besides football, I enjoy baseball, hockey and to an extent MMA and boxing. Less so since Day died. I don't want to see people die for my entertainment.

But given my enjoyment, especially of football, I feel like I am missing out somehow. Any reflections on how and why I can enjoy these other major sports and broaden horizons somewhat? Or should I just accept that this is the way it is?

SantaClaraHawk wrote:
But given my enjoyment, especially of football, I feel like I am missing out somehow. Any reflections on how and why I can enjoy these other major sports and broaden horizons somewhat? Or should I just accept that this is the way it is?

I won't turn this into a soccer thread, but I also didn't really care for soccer until I started coaching it about 15 years ago. Then the Sounders showed up, I bought season tickets and the rest is history. I was hooked.

IMO soccer is like hockey, doesn't translate well on TV for the average sports fan. But see it in person and the light goes on. So all I'd say is to go see a couple Sounder matches in person, and even if you don't quite understand what's going on, you'll have fun in that crazy environment.

As far sports I don't get, auto racing is at the top for me. I guess if you're a gearhead and get into all the car parts, speed and drivers it's enjoyable? But just watching cars go around the same track 400 times is mind numbingly boring to me.

Soccer for me. I’ve tried many times, it just can’t hold my attention.
I do respect the sounders and their very loyal fanbase though.

I am a lifelong baseball fan, and many see that as a boring unwatchable sport.

You hear Europeans say the same about football. That it's too complicated and long.

General rule is pick a team and watch them each week and go to the odd game in person, take the highs with the lows.

Just pick smart. Don't pick a team who are always awful but I also don't see the appeal of following a team who always win like Real Madrid, Barcelona etc unless you live in those cities, its boring. Also pick a team, preferably local where you can readily access the games.

I knew nothing of baseball and little of football outwith the super bowl before moving to the US 10 years ago. Had to learn about US sports. I still don't know anything about hockey, mainly as Seattle don't have an NHL team.

Baseball was the hardest to get into, its pretty boring to watch on tv if you don't know whats going on but far far better in person. I started getting into during the Mariners season where they missed the wild card by a game and bought in to the highs and lows.

Sports Hernia wrote:
I am a lifelong baseball fan, and many see that as a boring unwatchable sport.

I played baseball all the way through college, and obsessed over the M's for as far back as I can remember. But something clicked with me about 10 years ago, now I just can't get through a game it's so long and slow.

Maybe I've become more impatient/ADD in my old age? Maybe it's the fact that the M's haven't given me ANYTHING to get excited about since 2001? Idk, but other then the World Series, I can't sit through a game anymore..........even in person. I gotta get up, walk around, drink $12 beers just to keep myself entertained.

Sgt. Largent wrote:

Sports Hernia wrote:
I am a lifelong baseball fan, and many see that as a boring unwatchable sport.

I played baseball all the way through college, and obsessed over the M's for as far back as I can remember. But something clicked with me about 10 years ago, now I just can't get through a game it's so long and slow.

Maybe I've become more impatient/ADD in my old age? Maybe it's the fact that the M's haven't given me ANYTHING to get excited about since 2001? Idk, but other then the World Series, I can't sit through a game anymore..........even in person. I gotta get up, walk around, drink $12 beers just to keep myself entertained.

Probably the combo of bad boring M’s teams and the games lasting longer.

Sports Hernia wrote:I am a lifelong baseball fan, and many see that as a boring unwatchable sport.

Ditto. My 2nd favorite behind football. Much better experience in person though not difficult on TV like hockey. Think baseball is a fantastic sport. Hoops is a distant 3rd even though I was good enough at it that I played college ball (very low level, NAIA). Never could get into soccer though I do watch some World Cup. Ditto hockey, watch a little. Once Seattle gets a team I'll be more likely to watch them.

Hernia: would you outlaw the shift in baseball (2 infielders required to be on either side of 2nd base)?\

Sgt. Largent: it really is difficult to be a Mariners fan. Worst franchise in North American sports. As I said in the Las Vegas As thread, if Portland got a franchise (Tampa Bay please!) I'd immediately jump off the S.S. Mariner

hawksfansinceday1 wrote:

Sports Hernia wrote:I am a lifelong baseball fan, and many see that as a boring unwatchable sport.

Ditto. My 2nd favorite behind football. Much better experience in person though not difficult on TV like hockey. Think baseball is a fantastic sport. Hoops is a distant 3rd even though I was good enough at it that I played college ball (very low level, NAIA). Never could get into soccer though I do watch some World Cup. Ditto hockey, watch a little. Once Seattle gets a team I'll be more likely to watch them.

Hernia: would you outlaw the shift in baseball (2 infielders required to be on either side of 2nd base)?\

Sgt. Largent: it really is difficult to be a Mariners fan. Worst franchise in North American sports. As I said in the Las Vegas As thread, if Portland got a franchise (Tampa Bay please!) I'd immediately jump off the S.S. Mariner

Great question on the shift. Yes, I would require 2 infielders on each side of second base (don’t care where). I’d also require the infielders to play the infield, and not be a “short outfielder”, like which is done with a lot of 2nd basemen.

I don't understand soccer. At all. But 5 minutes into my first rugby match, I was 100% on board. Go figure.

Sports Hernia wrote:

hawksfansinceday1 wrote:

Sports Hernia wrote:I am a lifelong baseball fan, and many see that as a boring unwatchable sport.

Ditto. My 2nd favorite behind football. Much better experience in person though not difficult on TV like hockey. Think baseball is a fantastic sport. Hoops is a distant 3rd even though I was good enough at it that I played college ball (very low level, NAIA). Never could get into soccer though I do watch some World Cup. Ditto hockey, watch a little. Once Seattle gets a team I'll be more likely to watch them.

Hernia: would you outlaw the shift in baseball (2 infielders required to be on either side of 2nd base)?\

Sgt. Largent: it really is difficult to be a Mariners fan. Worst franchise in North American sports. As I said in the Las Vegas As thread, if Portland got a franchise (Tampa Bay please!) I'd immediately jump off the S.S. Mariner

Great question on the shift. Yes, I would require 2 infielders on each side of second base (don’t care where). I’d also require the infielders to play the infield, and not be a “short outfielder”, like which is done with a lot of 2nd basemen.

Agree. No further out than the edge of the dirt.

Have never understood the hype of Soccer. But I've been down this rabbit hole before, so I'll just leave it at that. So much butthurt last time......

hawksfansinceday1 wrote:

Sports Hernia wrote:I am a lifelong baseball fan, and many see that as a boring unwatchable sport.

Ditto. My 2nd favorite behind football. Much better experience in person though not difficult on TV like hockey. Think baseball is a fantastic sport. Hoops is a distant 3rd even though I was good enough at it that I played college ball (very low level, NAIA). Never could get into soccer though I do watch some World Cup. Ditto hockey, watch a little. Once Seattle gets a team I'll be more likely to watch them.

Hernia: would you outlaw the shift in baseball (2 infielders required to be on either side of 2nd base)?\

Sgt. Largent: it really is difficult to be a Mariners fan. Worst franchise in North American sports. As I said in the Las Vegas As thread, if Portland got a franchise (Tampa Bay please!) I'd immediately jump off the S.S. Mariner

I still love my M's. Some of my fondest memories of being a Seattle sports fan are the M's.

I just think baseball is a bygone sport that existed at a time when life was just slower, so there was an appeal to just taking in this slow methodical long game where you could relax, have a hotdog and talk to people.

My guess is if baseball was invented now, it'd be like 6 innings long and the season would only be maybe 100 games. Hard to get excited about seeing a baseball game on May 1st when there's another 130 of them. Sports like football are popular not only for their violence, but because there's a sense of urgency and importance to every game, and every play.

Having said all this, I can guarantee you if the M's ever got really good again I'd jump back on. In the end, that's really all fans want, a reason to watch or care............and brother, a team tanking for years in the hopes to be good sometime in the future sure as hell isn't a reason.

SF Giants fan here. Totally understand though just tuning out or not wanting to watch all games on TV.

I think they understood that too, so they built a stadium that unlike Levi's is a mini-family vacation destination. Lots of things for kids to do. Way better food than I've seen anywhere else. If you get stadium claustrophobia, you can go out to the harbor, walk around and wave to the kayakers and sailboaters out hoping to get a ball. These are factors in a game that can go five hours or more.

SantaClaraHawk wrote:I woujld like to like other sports--specifically basketball and soccer. But in watching several games, I don't really get it from an entertainment perspective. This makes me sad. I have tried to follow the Warriors (in-market here) and have gone to their games (pricey) but haven't gotten invested in them as a team or as a sport even knowing the basic rules and with lots of knowlegeable fans I can ask stupid questions to without embarrassment. Soccer is a worldwide phenom, as such I've watched their games but it's just people kicking the ball to me.

Besides football, I enjoy baseball, hockey and to an extent MMA and boxing. Less so since Day died. I don't want to see people die for my entertainment.

But given my enjoyment, especially of football, I feel like I am missing out somehow. Any reflections on how and why I can enjoy these other major sports and broaden horizons somewhat? Or should I just accept that this is the way it is?

I'm with you on both sports. Basketball is only entertaining for me at the collegiate level, and even then it's a passing interest at best. The NBA is garbage. Soccer is literally the most boring sport ever conceived. The only way to make it palatable is by putting it on ice, giving the players sticks, encouraging fights, and calling it "hockey".

No other sport comes close to the NFL. I used to be into MLB and NBA years ago, but started to drift away from both in the 90s. The one popular sports I never “got” was college hoops. People go nuts over March Madness and take off work to watch it. I don’t wanna hear about your damn bracket!


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James in PA wrote:No other sport comes close to the NFL. I used to be into MLB and NBA years ago, but started to drift away from both in the 90s. The one popular sports I never “got” was college hoops. People go nuts over March Madness and take off work to watch it. I don’t wanna hear about your damn bracket!

Haha, yes true about the college brackets...........right up there with I don't care about your fantasy football team.

I do enjoy the college tourney though. Love the upsets and elimination tournament style. Makes for a lot of great drama.

James in PA wrote:No other sport comes close to the NFL. I used to be into MLB and NBA years ago, but started to drift away from both in the 90s. The one popular sports I never “got” was college hoops. People go nuts over March Madness and take off work to watch it. I don’t wanna hear about your damn bracket!


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I dunno, I find women's tennis absolutely fascinating. Perhaps even more so than the NFL.

A game I have never understood going to ior watching on TV is golf. Not for lack of understanding; I've caddied games the old fashioned way, and I have played. It is not my favorite activity to do, but I see the appeal in playing it.

But with these paid games, if you're not 6'8", explain how you see anything past the people in front of you. There are like 20 good viewing spots there. Whereas if you watch on TV, you don't get the 3-D of the course that becomes immediately apparent once there.

SantaClaraHawk wrote:A game I have never understood going to ior watching on TV is golf. Not for lack of understanding; I've caddied games the old fashioned way, and I have played. It is not my favorite activity to do, but I see the appeal in playing it.

But with these paid games, if you're not 6'8", explain how you see anything past the people in front of you. There are like 20 good viewing spots there. Whereas if you watch on TV, you don't get the 3-D of the course that becomes immediately apparent once there.

I love golf. Love playing it and love watching it. I even went to three days of the US Open when it was at Chambers Bay.

If people don't like playing golf, I get why it's boring. But if you love the sport, you also love the players, and that's the appeal of attending tournaments in person, getting to see all the players you admire and love watching on TV...........and for those of us that play golf, holy moly is it fun to watch players hit the ball so well, because we know how hard it is.

It's hockey for me. Never got into it. Even with Seattle getting a team I have no real desire to watch.

Sgt. Largent wrote:

SantaClaraHawk wrote:A game I have never understood going to ior watching on TV is golf. Not for lack of understanding; I've caddied games the old fashioned way, and I have played. It is not my favorite activity to do, but I see the appeal in playing it.

But with these paid games, if you're not 6'8", explain how you see anything past the people in front of you. There are like 20 good viewing spots there. Whereas if you watch on TV, you don't get the 3-D of the course that becomes immediately apparent once there.

I love golf. Love playing it and love watching it. I even went to three days of the US Open when it was at Chambers Bay.

If people don't like playing golf, I get why it's boring. But if you love the sport, you also love the players, and that's the appeal of attending tournaments in person, getting to see all the players you admire and love watching on TV...........and for those of us that play golf, holy moly is it fun to watch players hit the ball so well, because we know how hard it is.

I played golf about 20 years ago. I sucked. Never had to by golf balls because when I’d hit the ball into the woods, which was often, I’d find my ball and usually 3 others. Too many cheaters, use “creative score keeping” also.

Bored out of my skull watching it on TV. That just me though.

Sgt. Largent wrote:

Sports Hernia wrote:
I am a lifelong baseball fan, and many see that as a boring unwatchable sport.

I played baseball all the way through college, and obsessed over the M's for as far back as I can remember. But something clicked with me about 10 years ago, now I just can't get through a game it's so long and slow.

Maybe I've become more impatient/ADD in my old age? Maybe it's the fact that the M's haven't given me ANYTHING to get excited about since 2001? Idk, but other then the World Series, I can't sit through a game anymore..........even in person. I gotta get up, walk around, drink $12 beers just to keep myself entertained.

I grew-up without TV in the house. Listened to a lot of Mariners on the radio. Gaining access to cable has definitely slowed me down, and I have a harder time watching baseball outside of the playoffs. Without Dave calling M's games, it's harder to get through them. I think this 2019 team, aside from the flukey April variant, was one of the most unwatchable I've yet encountered, as the pitching was so terrible that anything the team mustered on offense was meaningless.

Sports Hernia wrote:

Sgt. Largent wrote:

SantaClaraHawk wrote:A game I have never understood going to ior watching on TV is golf. Not for lack of understanding; I've caddied games the old fashioned way, and I have played. It is not my favorite activity to do, but I see the appeal in playing it.

But with these paid games, if you're not 6'8", explain how you see anything past the people in front of you. There are like 20 good viewing spots there. Whereas if you watch on TV, you don't get the 3-D of the course that becomes immediately apparent once there.

I love golf. Love playing it and love watching it. I even went to three days of the US Open when it was at Chambers Bay.

If people don't like playing golf, I get why it's boring. But if you love the sport, you also love the players, and that's the appeal of attending tournaments in person, getting to see all the players you admire and love watching on TV...........and for those of us that play golf, holy moly is it fun to watch players hit the ball so well, because we know how hard it is.

I played golf about 20 years ago. I sucked. Never had to by golf balls because when I’d hit the ball into the woods, which was often, I’d find my ball and usually 3 others. Too many cheaters, use “creative score keeping” also.

Bored out of my skull watching it on TV. That just me though.

You bring up one of the things I find fascinating about golf. There's an old golf saying, "if you cheat at golf, you probably cheat at life."

Golf is one of those sports that reveals a person's honesty and character. So yes, when I'm golfing with friends, clients, whoever, I definitely pick up on whether they cheat or not.......which is weird to me because golf is really a sport you're playing against yourself, so if you're cheating to give you a false impression of your own golf score? Who are you really impressing?

Sgt. Largent wrote:

Sports Hernia wrote:

Sgt. Largent wrote:

SantaClaraHawk wrote:A game I have never understood going to ior watching on TV is golf. Not for lack of understanding; I've caddied games the old fashioned way, and I have played. It is not my favorite activity to do, but I see the appeal in playing it.

But with these paid games, if you're not 6'8", explain how you see anything past the people in front of you. There are like 20 good viewing spots there. Whereas if you watch on TV, you don't get the 3-D of the course that becomes immediately apparent once there.

I love golf. Love playing it and love watching it. I even went to three days of the US Open when it was at Chambers Bay.

If people don't like playing golf, I get why it's boring. But if you love the sport, you also love the players, and that's the appeal of attending tournaments in person, getting to see all the players you admire and love watching on TV...........and for those of us that play golf, holy moly is it fun to watch players hit the ball so well, because we know how hard it is.

I played golf about 20 years ago. I sucked. Never had to by golf balls because when I’d hit the ball into the woods, which was often, I’d find my ball and usually 3 others. Too many cheaters, use “creative score keeping” also.

Bored out of my skull watching it on TV. That just me though.

You bring up one of the things I find fascinating about golf. There's an old golf saying, "if you cheat at golf, you probably cheat at life."

Golf is one of those sports that reveals a person's honesty and character. So yes, when I'm golfing with friends, clients, whoever, I definitely pick up on whether they cheat or not.......which is weird to me because golf is really a sport you're playing against yourself, so if you're cheating to give you a false impression of your own golf score? Who are you really impressing?

True, and I agree. I used to golf with incredibly competitive people who’s skills were much much better than mine. I had no reason to cheat as I was light years worse and knew it. If I beat anyone on one hole, I was happy.

If they could somehow invent an automatic scoring system like they have in bowling, it would be impossible to cheat.

I was once discussing Football with someone at a Semi-Pro Soccer game. He said that when Rugby League was on the BBC on Saturday afternoons, he could not stand it. This was mainly due the commentator Eddie Waring always going on about a punt high in the air being an up and under and ejected players having their early bath. A friend from College who lived in the part of England where it is played took him to a game and he really enjoyed it. He thought that Football was the same, something that is better live than on TV.

It was said that there are two events that are rubbish on TV and much better live. Firework displays and Air Shows.

My company has quite a bit of people from India and they are all really into cricket. I genuinely don't understand it, watched a few matches, and don't get it. It's a hugely popular sport too. I figured me playing baseball in high school and college help but nope.

Sgt. Largent wrote:

SantaClaraHawk wrote:
But given my enjoyment, especially of football, I feel like I am missing out somehow. Any reflections on how and why I can enjoy these other major sports and broaden horizons somewhat? Or should I just accept that this is the way it is?

I won't turn this into a soccer thread, but I also didn't really care for soccer until I started coaching it about 15 years ago. Then the Sounders showed up, I bought season tickets and the rest is history. I was hooked.

IMO soccer is like hockey, doesn't translate well on TV for the average sports fan. But see it in person and the light goes on. So all I'd say is to go see a couple Sounder matches in person, and even if you don't quite understand what's going on, you'll have fun in that crazy environment.

As far sports I don't get, auto racing is at the top for me. I guess if you're a gearhead and get into all the car parts, speed and drivers it's enjoyable? But just watching cars go around the same track 400 times is mind numbingly boring to me.

I gave soccer a sincere try as I have a good friend who is a soccer fan. I just can't do it, bores me to tears but the same can be said for baseball (loved to play it) and auto racing.

I like women's fast-pitch softball though.

DomeHawk wrote:I like women's fast-pitch softball though.

My favorite women's sport

For me it is Baseball, Soccer, Golf (pace being the common element between those), Motorsports and MMA. I respect all of it, is just doesn't interest or entertain me. I definitely don't want to undersell how much I respect the folks who step into a racecar or the octagon though.

Basketball, Football, Hockey and Boxing is enough to keep me satiated.

I do think if there was more coverage of surfing, wake boarding and snowboarding I'd probably get into that too.

SeatownJay wrote:It's hockey for me. Never got into it. Even with Seattle getting a team I have no real desire to watch.

With hockey, in the United States, I think not being into it or enjoying it has to do with whether or not someone was exposed to it growing up. As there are a lot of places in the United States where hockey isn't present at all.

Theoretically, it should be universally enjoyed when you look at it on paper: the fastest speeds of the 4 major north american team sports, 2nd in physicality amongst the main 4, played as frequently basketball, and probably the best athletes of the 4. But without significant exposure it can fail to gain a grip.

With regard to the op, watch soccer with someone from the Balkans; watch basketball with someone from the Philippines; watch cricket with someone from the subcontinent. The enthusiasm will draw you in at least enough to enjoy the sports.

This is probably sacrilege, but in terms of actual gameplay, beach volleyball if awful. Serve, dig out, set spike pretty much over and over again, as far as i can tell.

As for major international sports - they're all good in my opinion. If i had no rooting interest and was given a choice between the major team sports: football, basketball, baseball, basketball, hockey, soccer, rugby, rugby league, cricket and field hockey, baseball is the one I find the dullest. Although, I do usu

I've seen cricket come up a few times in this thread, and I'll admit that it is a complicated and nuanced sport that can take a while to get your head around, but if you find yourself in the subcontinent, England, south africa, the Caribbean, Australia, England or New zealand it's well worth giving it a go. For me, it's like baseball but more fluent and creative and is more tactical. There are 3 forms of the game. Most die hard fans prefer Test cricket, which is 4-5 days long and doesn't always guarantee a winner, but does give the best players a chance to really dominate. For, example, today and yesterday I was lucky enough to see a new zealand player bat for 11 hours and score 200 against England. Then there are 2 versions that guarantee a result: One Day cricket lasts about 6 hours and T20 lasts about 3 hours.

Cricket also outdoes baseball in 2 of baseball fans' favourite things about the game - cricket is both more a 'game of failure' than baseball (although I've thankfully never heard anyone try to describe it that way) and also has many more statistics, most of which are more meaningful, as well as more accessible, to the average fan. Also, international teams go on tours to countries that usually last about 4-6 weeks, meaning that you can aspire, as a fan, to going on a tour to support your team which involves travelling to some amazing countries and spending a whole lot of time both watching cricket and getting a good look at the different cultures.

And finally, when comparing baseball and cricket, I find that cricket players are much easier to support than baseball players. I subscribed to MLB TV for 4-5 years and would watch about 50 games a season and I think that in that time, the only Mariners player I became remotely invested in was Nelson Cruz. Everyone else was boring and non-descript. I don't think the game lends itself to letting mant players stand out from the rest. The same is not true of cricket, in my opinion of course!

Hawkspur wrote:
And finally, when comparing baseball and cricket, I find that cricket players are much easier to support than baseball players. I subscribed to MLB TV for 45 years and would watch about 50 games qqseason and I think that in that time, the only Mariners player I became remotely invested in was Nelson Cruz. Everyone else was boring and non-descript. I don't think the game lends itself to letting mant players stand out from the rest. The same is not true of cricket, in my opinion of course!

MLB definitely does a terrible job of promoting their players, especially compared to the NBA and NFL.

As a child of the 70's and 80's, MLB players were 75% of every ad involving a pro sports spokesperson.

I get that baseball is more diverse now, and maybe that's making it harder to promote and get your stars out front and center. But that doesn't excuse barely even trying.

I mean, when's the last time you even saw a national ad involving a MLB player?

Sgt. Largent wrote:

Hawkspur wrote:
And finally, when comparing baseball and cricket, I find that cricket players are much easier to support than baseball players. I subscribed to MLB TV for 45 years and would watch about 50 games qqseason and I think that in that time, the only Mariners player I became remotely invested in was Nelson Cruz. Everyone else was boring and non-descript. I don't think the game lends itself to letting mant players stand out from the rest. The same is not true of cricket, in my opinion of course!

MLB definitely does a terrible job of promoting their players, especially compared to the NBA and NFL.

As a child of the 70's and 80's, MLB players were 75% of every ad involving a pro sports spokesperson.

I get that baseball is more diverse now, and maybe that's making it harder to promote and get your stars out front and center. But that doesn't excuse barely even trying.

I mean, when's the last time you even saw a national ad involving a MLB player?

Trout with subway. .....but your point stands.
MLB has missed a lot of marketing opportunities.

Kind of like the NHL has in the Seattle area the past 30 years. Vancouver is just over 3 hours by car and the NHL has never promoted them in the Seattle area. As a kid and young adult I never saw Canucks or NHL games on TV. Opportunity missed.

I think we can all get into this sport. The next step is getting ESPN to cover it.

Seahawk Sailor wrote:I think we can all get into this sport. The next step is getting ESPN to cover it.

Morbid but funny. I wouldn’t buy season tickets but might pay to see a single game/match.

Being a canuck I was a die hard hockey fan for most of my life. Over time the game severely changed and now I cant stand to watch it. NGL for me only now.

Sgt. Largent wrote:

Sports Hernia wrote:
I am a lifelong baseball fan, and many see that as a boring unwatchable sport.

I played baseball all the way through college, and obsessed over the M's for as far back as I can remember. But something clicked with me about 10 years ago, now I just can't get through a game it's so long and slow.

Maybe I've become more impatient/ADD in my old age? Maybe it's the fact that the M's haven't given me ANYTHING to get excited about since 2001? Idk, but other then the World Series, I can't sit through a game anymore..........even in person. I gotta get up, walk around, drink $12 beers just to keep myself entertained.

I’d recommend Leeds United to follow for football. We are on the way up and we are a massive club.

Cyrus12 wrote:Being a canuck I was a die hard hockey fan for most of my life. Over time the game severely changed and now I cant stand to watch it. NGL for me only now.

As someone who is trying to learn more about hockey and the NHL (getting ready for Seattle's team).... can you expand on that? What happened? What changed?

Ace_Rimmer wrote:

Sgt. Largent wrote:

Sports Hernia wrote:
I am a lifelong baseball fan, and many see that as a boring unwatchable sport.

I played baseball all the way through college, and obsessed over the M's for as far back as I can remember. But something clicked with me about 10 years ago, now I just can't get through a game it's so long and slow.

Maybe I've become more impatient/ADD in my old age? Maybe it's the fact that the M's haven't given me ANYTHING to get excited about since 2001? Idk, but other then the World Series, I can't sit through a game anymore..........even in person. I gotta get up, walk around, drink $12 beers just to keep myself entertained.

I’d recommend Leeds United to follow for football. We are on the way up and we are a massive club.

Neither one of these things are true....

But they are an interesting club

I played baseball most of life up thru Young adult and then softball leagues, playing the game you are tuned in to the strategy and making plays etc, as a fan sitting in the stands just watching for entertainment without some investment such as a kid or friend playing it can be hard in a purely pitching contest with little offense.

Soccer is the same way for me I understand a lot of the concepts and while I just played some in High School in PE, it doesn't have the dynamics of football and basketball, that can have emotional and more individual competitions.

I understand the skill sets, Hockey is a lot faster moving and I really enjoyed the Olympic style play, but again not the pro style of yester year, have not watched in a long time, am willing to give it a chance again, I know they changed some of the rules and there are less brawls etc and its faster paced from my understanding.

Boxing.

I used to look forward to the Tyson fights so much. I never cared about it before but he was so damn dominant.

Haven't really paid attention since then. A buddy of mine got his ass kicked by Camacho and I had no reason to continue following the sport.