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Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:56 am
  • Horses and horsemanship have been a big part of my life. I used to be a licensed horse racing trainer but have been reduced to just handicapping the races for the past 8 yrs or so. I play about 4-5 days a week, time permitting, and have studied handicapping for at least 20 years.
    Any other handicappers and/or racing fans here among our Seahawk faithful?
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:37 am
  • I learned about Horses about 30 years ago. Went to the races here in the Boise valley when we had Les Bois Park and they were racing live. They somewhat closed and dont reopen that much as they really dont like paramutual racing or the other racing venue items there as it takes away from the betting venue they want to keep here...I daho Lottery. So not really any more.

    A local lady that was a great rider got a special on her one time on PBS.

    I cant find the article..but here is one.

    https://www.idahopress.com/sports/big-f ... 93055.html
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:07 am
  • Hey there and thanks SH80. I wasn't expecting I'd even get an answer, let alone so quick. :lol: I lived in NW Montana until 2000, so I know horse racing struggles in that area. But there are pretty decent tracks in Washington and Oregon, except the handle is so small I play elsewhere.
    I take it you don't pursue the action at other tracks around the country?
    Horse racing is about the only way I have left to make any money so it's a profession for me. It's anything BUT easy though. I work really hard at it every day.
    Seahawks are my 'fun' outlet, although this year they've tried hard to test the validity of my health insurance. LOL
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:57 pm
  • Have not went to the races since Long Acres closed and my ex fiancé and I broke up. But I never lost money and always came home with more in my pocket then I left with. That was like 25 years ago.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:55 pm
  • Good on you chris! Not many can say they quit while they were ahead of the most challenging game going. Don't you miss going for the thrill of victory?
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:11 pm
  • Appyhawk wrote:Good on you chris! Not many can say they quit while they were ahead of the most challenging game going. Don't you miss going for the thrill of victory?


    I missed it, but it was the company I kept at that time that made it special. Never went to win as much to have fun with whom I was with, maybe that was the key, always maintained my bet limit, read racing forms before we went and then made bets, after double checking track conditions, sloppy versus fast track are night and day and some horses just don't run as fast while others it never made a difference. Seeing that in forms in the history of times was a big help.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:39 pm
  • Great post. Can't even begin to tell you how much time I've spent studying forms. I maintain a huge database and have developed systems based on circumstantial trends and profiles for each track, trainer, jock, horse, sireline, when and how much they excel in about 30 different categories. Also now use software which makes all that much faster and easier. Having said that, I don't think anything beats manually studying the form. Trouble with that is it takes so much time it's tough for me to get through an entire card to find those best races to play. So i do both! :lol:
    I'm a value player, so I have to be extra judicious in finding the right race to invest in. I do my utmost to eliminate gambling as much as possible. That's why I say the most overall profitable play you will make is passing races instead of trying to play them all.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:15 am
  • Appyhawk wrote:Hey there and thanks SH80. I wasn't expecting I'd even get an answer, let alone so quick. :lol: I lived in NW Montana until 2000, so I know horse racing struggles in that area. But there are pretty decent tracks in Washington and Oregon, except the handle is so small I play elsewhere.
    I take it you don't pursue the action at other tracks around the country?
    Horse racing is about the only way I have left to make any money so it's a profession for me. It's anything BUT easy though. I work really hard at it every day.
    Seahawks are my 'fun' outlet, although this year they've tried hard to test the validity of my health insurance. LOL


    A football great used to own a small ranch out here. Sold it when he got divorced and that ranch produced a horse that placed/showed/won one of the 4 main races. Born out here, and sent down to Cali to train when old enough to handle it. I dont remember the name of the horse. Sorry.

    Name of the place is TreeTop Farms. The old owner is Green Bay Packer Jerry Kramer. He lives in Boise. Played golf with him one time at my course that I worked on.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:21 am
  • I remember Jerry Kramer. Didn't know he lives in Boise. Without horse name I have no idea about that one. There are so many big races now, and so many horses with such crazy names it's hard to keep track of them. Especially over a haul as long as mine! :lol:
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:35 am
  • I spent some me time around Playfair in Spokane (back in the day). Late 70s early 80s

    Surly wouldn’t call myself a HCer.
    I knew a couple of trainers, and occasionally exercised a few horses for extra pocket money.

    I learned how to read a forum but still didn’t do much betting unless I heard something around the barns that made it a “sure thing”, I made a few bucks but thankfully I learned quickly that there is no such thing as a “sure thing”least not in Horse Racing.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Wed Dec 25, 2019 8:24 am
  • Goodstuff pmedic. Working as an exercise rider is how I got started in racing too. 60s and mostly quarter horses at the time. Since then I've gravitated exclusively to Tbreds, except for my pleasure horses which are Apps.
    You are so right that there is no sure thing. In fact, as a value player, that is exactly what keeps me going! Playing those 'sure things' wins a lot of races, but puts very little in your pocket. Accurately identifying the vulnerable favorites is a big part of picking races to play or pass.
    I see you're now in Texas. One of my sons is a businessman in San Antonio. I celebrated a big Belmont Stakes win
    (and my ganddaughter's HS graduation) while visiting there earlier this year. The .10 super pd about $1750. Big pool races like that I don't play for dimes. The BElmont is THE race that has been most generous to me over the years.
    I never got to Playfair when I lived just over the line in NW Montana, but knew a lot of folks there from playing tennis tournies. The son I mentioned above got a schollie offer to play for the Zags but ended up going to Missoula.
    Nice to get acquainted with you and chris and 80.
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Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Wed Dec 25, 2019 1:07 pm
  • Appyhawk wrote:Goodstuff pmedic. Working as an exercise rider is how I got started in racing too. 60s and mostly quarter horses at the time. Since then I've gravitated exclusively to Tbreds, except for my pleasure horses which are Apps.
    You are so right that there is no sure thing. In fact, as a value player, that is exactly what keeps me going! Playing those 'sure things' wins a lot of races, but puts very little in your pocket. Accurately identifying the vulnerable favorites is a big part of picking races to play or pass.
    I see you're now in Texas. One of my sons is a businessman in San Antonio. I celebrated a big Belmont Stakes win
    (and my ganddaughter's HS graduation) while visiting there earlier this year. The .10 super pd about $1750. Big pool races like that I don't play for dimes. The BElmont is THE race that has been most generous to me over the years.
    I never got to Playfair when I lived just over the line in NW Montana, but knew a lot of folks there from playing tennis tournies. The son I mentioned above got a schollie offer to play for the Zags but ended up going to Missoula.
    Nice to get acquainted with you and chris and 80.


    The Palouse Pony huh?

    I’m fairly familiar.

    I worked the APPY Nationals and World show for several years.

    Cattle Manager.

    5-6 days of pure Hell but so enjoyable.

    Four Winds West: Wizzer (rip) and Kathy Baker, if you’re familiar with them.
    I’ve long since lost contact, not sure if Kathy continued in the business after Wizzers passing.


    Edit:
    Ha, this is stirring some memories that I haven’t pondered in many years.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Wed Dec 25, 2019 2:16 pm
  • "Ha, this is stirring some memories that I haven’t pondered in many years."
    That's a GOOD thing. I figure memories are kind of a connection to forever.

    I raised a line of Apps for more the 40 years, based on a Red Eagle colt I raised., Red Eagle was an APHC foundation sire. I just have 2 of my Apps left now and the youngest is 16. I had one that passed away last fall that was down from 2 world speed record holders, His name was O'Sage's Eagle and I bet he was the fastest thing ever born. Never in my life rode or saw a faster accelerator. He was a one man horse. We were a team. Gawd I miss that horse. He was something outa this world, an athletic freak of nature. I still have his brother Storm Eagle. He's 20, but still spry.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Wed Dec 25, 2019 2:17 pm
  • chris98251 wrote:Have not went to the races since Long Acres closed and my ex fiancé and I broke up. But I never lost money and always came home with more in my pocket then I left with. That was like 25 years ago.

    Emerald Downs is decent but a bit out of the way. Last time I went there were a lot of races where there were only 5 horses.
    It’s hard to make money with only 5 horses racing. Though I heard the Muckelshoot tribe runs it now and increased the prize money attracting bigger fields.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:17 pm
  • I hear ya Hernia, and thanks for the contribution.
    I'm not much for playing small fields or small handle. But I am interested in learning more about Emerald and Portland tracks as I still entertain notions of relocating to that area of the country. I watch racing from there when it's available. Another putoff is that both those tracks seem dominated by early speed chalk. I rarely play chalk and prefer closers. But it takes weeding through a lot of races to find the right one to pull the trigger on.
    The trouble with relocating is that to find a place there that would resemble what I have here would probably cost a $1M or more. IF I could even find one.
    I like tribal run tracks though. So I'll do some research and see what's up with the arrangements. I know the Seahawks have partnered with that tribe for some things in the way of developments. Not sure exactly what they're talking about when they say "development' though. As a rule I frown on what 'development' turns out to be. :)
    Thanks again for the convo. Glad for this chance to get to know some of board members a little bit better.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Sat Dec 28, 2019 3:46 pm
  • Hmmm. Our nice little fun thread here must have made news to attract internet marketing.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:33 am
  • Well, it seems the virus has left horse racing the only game still going, albeit simulcast/TV only. No attendance allowed at the track, but the ponies are still running.
    For as long as I can remember this time of year it's wall to wall basketball at my house. KU has been in the tourney a record 31 consecutive yrs, until now. So I'm dealing with a severe empty feeling.
    Tough times for racing too, what with the cheater cleanup going on, but IMO the sport will be better for it. If HORSES are better off for it that will be worth any downside. That's the rule of law here at my place, Horses FIRST, everything else after that. 28 cheaters arrested so far, with more on the vine.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:33 am
  • My wife has 3 horses...I know they are expensive....that's all I know...oh and she loves them more than me.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:33 pm
  • Sounds to me like you are a lucky man Cyrus! :)

    I just received a letter from Churchill Downs explaining their coronavirus caution regarding upcoming spring Derby meet, letting me know they are delaying opening the stable area and adjoining training barns for the new meet by 2 weeks. So at this time they are not considering cancelling the Derby, and I doubt they will do that, but it might be possible they would run it without fans like they are doing with all other racing at tracks right now around the country.
    In case you think that implies I might have a Derby horse...NOT HARDLY. If I could afford a horse like that I might be part owner of the Seahawks! :lol: :lol:
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:29 am
  • HUGE day at Gulfstream today. Last of 14 races on the card is the FLorida Derby which historically has heavy implications for Triple Crown race winners. It is also likely the last racing day of the meet as. like most other major tracks, they will probably shut down GPX until this virus thing has run it's course.
    I got some of my work done on the card last night, but with only an hour before post time they still haven't posted changes, IF there are no scratches I'll have to start all over as there are several horses in the outside 3 of the 16 stall gate which figure to be factors. I capped it anticipating anything from 13 out would probably scratch, as is usually what happens. But with closing an impending probability maybe no one is willing to take the chance they can find a better race to enter. In any case it should be a GREAT day of racing today at Hallandale.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:19 am
  • I have mentioned a few times there have been several horses running at Gulfstream this year with Seahawk ties. I haven't yet figured out if it's due to the owners or breeders, but we've seen entries named Beast Mode, Beast, Marshawn, and Largent, among others.
    R3 today has Largent going out of gate 3 as likely fave, out of the Pletcher barn. Largent has a good shot to take it, but will certainly be challenged by at least 4 others in the 12 horse field.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:53 am
  • Largent a winner!
    I don't play horses at 4/5 odds but in this case I used on top and cashed ex/tri plays.
    3W pd 3.60
    3/5 $2 ex pd 16.60
    3/5/12 .50 tri pd 27.95
    9 horse@99/1 came 4th. I didn't have that horse nor play the super. But if you did you collected $178.10 for a dime.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:41 pm
  • I can’t believe I missed this post.
    Another HR fanatic here. I can handicap pretty good but I love the history and stories of the sport. In fact, I am a published pedigree writer from the now defunct Pedigee Post. Bloodlines are my passion and I know my $h!t.
    Favorite of all time is Seattle Slew followed by AP Indy, Cigar, Rachel Alexandra and California Chrome.
    Favorite breed founders are Lexington, Glencoe, Diomed, La Troienne, Pocahontas and Janus.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:23 pm
  • COOL!!!!
    I bethca we'll get along fine and have some great conversations. Looking forward to it Seahwkgal.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:52 pm
  • You have got to be kidding me...I've posted so many horse racing threads for 2 decades here and largely ignored outside of Andrea. I've posted free PP's for the Derby for at least 17 years here.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:52 pm
  • Kidding you how Largent? I never saw any of those threads but if I had I sure would have been involved. If you want to talk horses and/or racing I'm all in pard!
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:43 am
  • Appyhawk wrote:Kidding you how Largent? I never saw any of those threads but if I had I sure would have been involved. If you want to talk horses and/or racing I'm all in pard!

    No offense Appy, but Rob(Largent80) has been the only other horse racing fanatic on this board that I knew of as well, however I don’t frequent the Sports Bar much so I could have missed any other topic about the ponies. :lol:
    You seem relatively new here to me but Rob and I are OLD members here.
    No biggie.
    The pandemic has changed my habits at home a bit recently because I am running out of things to watch on TV, so I started reading a book I recently purchased called ‘Legacy Of Lexington’ by Kathleen Kirsan. Fascinating read about the breed, the history and the bloodlines of the American sport horse. Man the American Thoroughbred racehorses come from some tough stock. Too bad they can’t hold up like that anymore. The 20 mile race story involving Black Maria and Trifle is amazing.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:51 am
  • No offense taken. I'm not ashamed to have only joined this board within the past year. Heck, I was a Seahawk before I first began using the internet! That was in the 90s. But I've been a horse guy my entire life. My first job was as a vet assistant (I get along very well with most all animals) but quit that to become the exercise rider for a guy who ran both quarters and TBreds. I was about 17 at that time. Then I grew too much for doing lots of speedwork, so that ended that gig. Years later I became a trainer. Also did shows and the fun stuff competitions, mostly into timed events as I've always had very fast horses. Also loved the endurance events, which is where my guy Stormy (Storm Eagle) came in. He's fast enough, but he can go hard forever! Upside is a lot of the events happen on great courses flagged out in scenic areas, so it's a great ride whether you're into the competitive aspect or not. Stormy didn't like all the vet check delays involved in the modern format! :lol: He's 21 now but he could still go tomorrow...although we haven't done much in the way of conditioning for over a year now.
    Re: "they can't hold up like that anymore". Im a WOH guy. Don't use or believe in drugs for my horses (or me) except in emergency or the preventative annual vaccs. We eat good and work hard. It is my opinion the routine use of lasix is a primary reason behind spate of breakdowns and bleeding although cheaters use any drug they think they can get away with. And that works for them too, at least for awhile. That is one of the biggest problems in racing. Too many cowboy chemists and not enough real "horse first" horsemen.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:36 am
  • Where do I start?...I grew up literally 2 blocks from Los Alamitos. Went there with my dad all the time. Of course we would also go to Santa Anita, Hollywood Park and Del Mar, whatever was open in the SoCal area. During the Fair we would go to Fairplex.

    When I moved to Washington in early 77 I got a job at Yakima Meadows. Most of the equipment from there was transported over from Longacres. All of the horsemen and trainers/jockies we're from there outside of a few from Playfair or Les Boise. A jockey showed up there , actually 2 jockies that are brothers, Gary and Scott Stevens. My buddy who also worked there and is the son of the track photographer knew Gary from Boise.

    He introduced me and we began a friendship. Of course he went on to stardom at SA and won riding titles everywhere he went. Still hear from him from time to time. I also befriended Gary Ross a prominent trainer.

    I was at closing day of Hollywood Park and it was a sad day, I was also at Longacres last Day (equally devastating)......Glad to see the sport is still going even after the disasterous SA meeting last year. I was at the Breeders Cup in 2008 when Curlin and Zenyatta both ran. I actually have a Zenyatta bobblehead from the givaway day at HP.

    Lots of great memories. Hit some huge exactas, tri's and Supers over the years, some were tips from both Garys, some from Vicky Aragon, and some strictly hunches.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:13 am
  • When I started in racing I was all about horses. Had no interest in betting. Even after I became a trainer I still just worked for purse $ without playing. Spending all your time on the backside you become aware of whats going on with certain trainers. Could have made a lot of money with that info, but I was just into helping the horses I was working with be as good as they could be. In my estimation having the best horse is the only way to WIN. Doping is not winning its cheating...stealing.
    My business model as an owner/trainer focused on state breds. Figured that was my best chance to win at a higher rate. After all, raising and starting youngsters is my specialty. Unfortunately politics put a kibosh on those plans. When the state elected a Tea Party gov the first thing he did was invent a loophole that created a monopoly favoring the state owned casinos which caused the tracks to close their doors. Flushed all my investment as well as source of income down the toilet overnight. Yes almost 10 years later, I'm still bitter about that.
    That's when I turned to playing the horses. Same gov even tried to shut that down in our state! But the legislature didn't want to lose that revenue and kept online open. So I can at least play from home,
    Currently (ever since the big bust) racing results are in something of an upheaval. Unexpected horses seem to drop out of the clouds to find their way into the winner circle or second to ruin your exotic play. The betting public simply has not adjusted to loss of dependable cheaters filling those spots, thus the enormous payouts we've been seeing despite limited racing. Its my theory that the cheaters winning so much screwed up the speed figures for other horses who are now emerging as competitive.
    Anyway, whatever the cause, I'm in something of a holding pattern until MY results are more consistent. My rule of play is to avoid gambling to the greatest extent possible. Yesterday was encouraging. We'll see how today goes. About the time I get it figured out the last of the tracks still running will shut down! That's when I'll start singing the "if it weren't for bad luck I wouldn't have any luck at all" song. :lol:
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Fri May 01, 2020 7:47 am
  • I'l lbe busy today and tomorrow. It's the last 2 days of this years Oaklawn meet. While it's been strange not to have the huge crowds so typical for OPX, the racing has been great, and as usual, challenging. This is Arkansas Derby weekend. There were so many nominations and entries they decided one race wasn't enough, so there will be 2 Ark Derbies this year! I'm OFF!!
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Sun May 03, 2020 8:19 am
  • Started with a bang good enough to carry me through the last 2 days with a nice + margin.
    I'm normally very cautious about getting involved in the first race on the card as that race is prone to producing anomalous results. But after capping the entire card it was Race 1 that really stuck out to me as being clearly defined, so I played it top to bottom, W through Super...and nailed it clean. Played the super for $1, which grossed 7 bills by itself! Passed R2, lost R3, but repeated my R1 result in R4! The Super ony produced $387, but the acculated roll carried me to a nice end after both days. Followed that with another Rosario W in R5, but missed on the Sup due to flipping the place and show horses, otherwise I would have scored a 3peat! That woud have been historic for me.
    Saturday Rosario rode 5 horses to wins on the 14 race card. As Rosario has long been my favorite jock, when he does well I tend to do the same. Unfortunately he rode a few short priced faves, in which case I usually pass on the W pool and focus on the exotics. Turned out pretty good.
    Amazingly great meet for Oaklawn this year, even without the stands being packed full with fans.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Tue May 19, 2020 3:06 pm
  • The Triple Crown is dead to me. Not only is there more time between races, the Belmont has been shortened to 9 furlongs. No longer a test of champions. No longer a true Triple Crown.
    9f Belmont on 6/22
    10f Ky Derby on 9/5
    9.5f Preakness in October.

    This is a joke.
    CDI is the reason it got all screwed up in the first place. Greedy bastards.
    They could have raced on 5/2 without spectators. The f-ing horses don’t care. Oaklawn Park did and had massive record handle.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Wed May 20, 2020 1:25 pm
  • TC is ruined. The Belmont first?....reduced distance?
    KY Derby next, more distance than the Belmont?
    Preakness ?...who cared anyway?

    They totally screwed the entire mythical perception of a triple crown.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:26 am
  • Yep, that's great Largent. 2 of y 3 Tbreds are horses I rescued while in their prime. Now they are 'old' (14-17) but still full of juice and great companions.
    The Belmont Stakes has long been my favorite race of the year. It is also one of my most profitable. But I whole heatedly agree with both of you about what is taking place this year. They are running a race Saturday, and they are calling it Belmont Stakes, but it is NOT the Belmont Stakes.
    IF I play it at all I will treat it as just another race.
    The entire TC series is a makeshift shambles for this year. Maybe that will make the Breeders Cup weekend into the center of racing attention the way it SHOULD be.

    The Queen Ann yesterday was a horse racing treat of a race!
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:14 pm
  • It is what it is.

    With limited training a mile and a half is pretty daunting for a young 3 Y.O...... Its still going to be interesting, but the mystique is gone and so is the trophy.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Fri Jun 19, 2020 3:54 pm
  • Just concluded my 3rd winning day in a row playing Belmont. (Probly just jinxed myself!) So I' looking forward to tomorrow. Haven't even looked at the card yet, but I will later tonight.
    You going to be playing tomorrow Largent?
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:12 pm
  • I should kick myself. I had the Trifecta of the fake, pussified Belmont. Didn’t play it because I don’t have an online betting account. I still think Max Player would have loved the 12 furlongs. Oh well, we will NEVER know.
    I love how the Honor Code 3 yos are performing. He is the final HUGE AP Indy son at stud.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:00 pm
  • At least we have something to watch with this f*** $h!t going on.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:11 am
  • Yep Largent. I see Belmont was highest rated sporting event of the week.
    Hey Seagal! Sounds like you and I capped the Belmont nearly identical. I DNP anything but ex so collected that @ $16 per click. Wish now I had played tri and sup too, but I didn't. Best for me on the day was R12. Had the 10 as my top choice. That one came in and saved my day w/$33.80 W.
    Haven't played anything since Sat. Went to see my son in KC and he gifted me a new cell phone and a kickass new laptop. Boy howdy this new machine is a doozy! Only prob is my horse racing software is no longer supported and there is no installation file in the package. So I'm going bananas trying to figure out how to transfer all the files and get it to work. In the meantime my previous puter with a working version of my program will do...but gawd I love this new machine!
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:30 pm
  • I've taken a couple weeks off from playing. Been really busy. Still am, but I also need to get some $ coming in.
    Noticed they ran at Emerald today, and had nice fields for a change, with few scratches. That's encouraging. I didn't follow, but I''ll check out the stat sheet for future reference.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:58 pm
  • One thing kinda 'cool' about Emerald is they don't start until about 7 in the evening my time. It isn't really cooling down here much then but at least the blistering heat is breaking. Besides that my chores will be done and I'm inside with ac going and trying to finish off my evening meal. Great time to jump into a race card!
    First race today has the 6 favored @ 6/5. Can't play a horse like that, but the horse is names Sherm! I don't know the story, but...in Seattle it's probly a crime to bet against a horse names Sherm, right?
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:29 pm
  • A friend of mine is an electrician. He is working on a barn soon in a ritzy neighborhood in the mountains. He mentioned stud fees for the owners horse. If it takes or not...each effort natural or artificial is 250k. Yep, we are in the wrong business. :shock:
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:46 am
  • :lol: :lol:
    Yep...we should have been a HORSE!

    It's only going to last for 5 days, but I'm looking forward to the change of racing scenery today at Keeneland.
    Kicks off about noon CT.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:48 pm
  • Today was 4th day of racing at Keeneland. I started slow Day 1, but was encouraged. Did better day 2. Did well day 3, doubling my bank. KILLED IT today. My handicapping today was stronger than it has been for a long spell. Wonderful day for me and nearly tripled my day 3 bank. I cold picked the super R9 which pd 44.28 for a dime. I almost never play supers for a dime...usually at least $1.
    The last race (R10) really frosted the cake for my day.
    Played my 3,7,10 box ex and tri. Chose from 2,4,5,8,9 for bottom but quit after tri. It came in 10/7/3/2 with 4 for 5th. I didn't play EX5 or super. Super@ 97.07. That sure would have been nice for a dime.
    10 W@ 26.40 (10 was 12-1)
    10/7 EX @ 228.60 (7 was 13-1)
    10/7/3 TRI@ 173.35 (3 was heavy fave @ 4/5)
    So now I'm all jacked for the last day. Bummed it's only a 5 day meet, but I think Breeders Cup is at Keeneland this year. BC weekend is my horse racing orgasm. :lol: (unless I have BAD luck!)
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:18 pm
  • Another day of great racing at KEE to close the meet. I knew this card would be tough, and it was. I had the horses but I just got too cute and At least I was cautious enough to not go wild, so I still have most of what I won yesterday in my bank. I won about 40 and spent about 60. Left more than 500 on the table for not making my plays. I do that a lot. Comes with being risk averse. Bummed the meet is over. Back to Belmont for me probably, unless I get involved at MTH or go back to GPX.
    All this corona thing sure is messing things up. More jocks tested positive yesterday. Luis Saez and Flavien Pratt the most recent victims. Lucky to still have racing going on. I'd be up a dry creek without that.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:54 pm
  • Nice to see racing going on, but in my ass backwards state we cant even wager online. I quit caring.
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Re: Am I The Only HR Handicapper Here?
Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:22 pm
  • Seahwkgal wrote:I should kick myself. I had the Trifecta of the fake, pussified Belmont. Didn’t play it because I don’t have an online betting account. I still think Max Player would have loved the 12 furlongs. Oh well, we will NEVER know.
    I love how the Honor Code 3 yos are performing. He is the final HUGE AP Indy son at stud.


    You are absolutely right about the Honor Code offspring, a fact that has not been lost on me. My betting had paid attention and that attention has paid me back. Got another one just last week at KEE.
    I barely participated at all in the fake Bel Stakes. I won the little ex play I made but it wasn't anything very exciting.

    Hey Largent...I see you're in Texas. My sympathies, although I say that knowing I don't have much room to brag. I refused to take my horses to Texas while I was running cause they had no simulcast money added so the purses aren't as worthwhile. Maybe that will change before long though if the elections go for change. They tried to kill it in Kansas too. They DID kill horse racing tracks here, which ruined me as my biz was basically built around running Ks stbrds. But they were greedy enough to want to cash in on people betting races (and poker etc) so they re-enabled online wagering accounts. So at least I still have a way to profit on the races. But no reason for me to consider moving to Texas. Kind of funny that I was in San Antonio during Belmont Stakes weekend last year and logged in to my account which resulted in me cashing real well on the Belmont with Sir Winston on top. I won that race top to bottom. Win/Ex/Tri. and especially the super which paid about $1750 for a dime. I only had 5 horses under Winston. He pd about $26 for the W. That race was my score for that year! And followed it with the 8 horse (J Ort aboard IIRC) winning the next race to pay $28. One of my sons lives in San Antonio and has a spectacular pool in back yard that looked real inviting to celebrate my big win!
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