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Re: The 2021 Seattle Mariners thread
Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:31 pm
  • getnasty wrote:[vine][/vine]
    Sports Hernia wrote:
    Thepeelsessions wrote:Well boys, the hitting ineptitude we've come to know so well here in Seattle was on full display tonight. That was an embarrassment and tough to watch.

    Free Kelenic!


    It's not fair to Kelenic and not best for the team at the moment but i'll wait 15 games when he's young to have another free year when he's older. There needs to be some kind of rule change so teams aren't able to do this to players though.

    Problem is, this action and other actions by the front office Kelenic isn’t happy with. 95 times out of 100 I’d say the player needs to suck it up and shut up about it.... but this guy is going to be a future superstar.

    When he refuses to sign the extension these actions will be why.

    The Mariners will NOT let him walk in FA and get nothing in return, so they will trade him before his contract is through, so there goes the extra year theory. Secondly they will get nothing much in return if they trade him with one year left with teams knowing he will hit FA the year after..... which means you have to trade him 2 years out to get anything of value in return, which means you are going to lose him a year earlier than you would of if you hadn’t played arbitration games.
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Re: The 2021 Seattle Mariners thread
Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:39 pm
  • So when Kelenic gets called up, does that mean Kyle Lewis moves to left field?

    Or do we trade Hanniger? What about Julio Rodriguez, where does that leave him?
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Re: The 2021 Seattle Mariners thread
Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:20 pm
  • Jerhawk wrote:So when Kelenic gets called up, does that mean Kyle Lewis moves to left field?

    Or do we trade Hanniger? What about Julio Rodriguez, where does that leave him?

    If anything it creates a back up at DH eventually. J-rod isn’t ready yet, though he’s closer than most think IMHO.
    Kelenic, Lewis, Trammell, and J-rod can all play centerfield, and the rest of the OF positions.

    I like France’s bat and he’s Seager’s replacement at 3rd.

    Haniger (whom I’m a fan of when healthy) I think will eventually get traded off for pitching.

    Eventually you will have likely 4 young stud OF’s you can rotate in and out of the DH spot.
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Re: The 2021 Seattle Mariners thread
Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:24 pm
  • getnasty wrote:[vine][/vine]
    Sports Hernia wrote:
    Thepeelsessions wrote:Well boys, the hitting ineptitude we've come to know so well here in Seattle was on full display tonight. That was an embarrassment and tough to watch.

    Free Kelenic!


    It's not fair to Kelenic and not best for the team at the moment but i'll wait 15 games when he's young to have another free year when he's older. There needs to be some kind of rule change so teams aren't able to do this to players though.

    It's not fair to Kelenic?Need a rule change?The players voted and agreed to
    it in their union contract with MLB.
    Boo hoo life isn't fair..You don't agree to something and then cry when it doesn't
    fit your view...The M's are doing exactly what they can do and many teams have
    already done.If the players don't like the process then get it changed in the next
    contract.I'm so tired of the baby attitudes that pros have today in all the sports.
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Re: The 2021 Seattle Mariners thread
Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:59 pm
  • IndyHawk wrote:
    getnasty wrote:[vine][/vine]
    Sports Hernia wrote:
    Thepeelsessions wrote:Well boys, the hitting ineptitude we've come to know so well here in Seattle was on full display tonight. That was an embarrassment and tough to watch.

    Free Kelenic!


    It's not fair to Kelenic and not best for the team at the moment but i'll wait 15 games when he's young to have another free year when he's older. There needs to be some kind of rule change so teams aren't able to do this to players though.

    It's not fair to Kelenic?Need a rule change?The players voted and agreed to
    it in their union contract with MLB.
    Boo hoo life isn't fair..You don't agree to something and then cry when it doesn't
    fit your view...The M's are doing exactly what they can do and many teams have
    already done.If the players don't like the process then get it changed in the next
    contract.I'm so tired of the baby attitudes that pros have today in all the sports.


    Calm down buddy. I don’t feel bad for any professional athlete as they all have it pretty good. I also understand that the players union signs off on these things. Still sucks for Kelenic and for the fans but i wouldn't do anything different if i were the M's front office.

    Hernia does bring up a good point though that they could be burning bridges with a stud who's good enough to be on the opening day roster.
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Re: The 2021 Seattle Mariners thread
Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:29 pm
  • I think they tried to sign him long term and they realized he was going to bet on himself and go for max money no matter what. If the Mariner organization decides they want to keep him around they will have to pay up. If not he will go to whichever team is willing to. Simple as that. Whether or not he is but hurt over this matters little to none whatsoever when the time comes to pay up.
    He is cocky and sure of himself, and he is going to go for max money regardless of this move by the Mariners. Hence why they are doing what they are doing. Any other move would be quite dumb. Trying to engender good will won't matter one iota when the time comes. My guess is the Mariners will not pay up and he will be gone. Just like Alex, Griffey, Johnson, etc.
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Re: The 2021 Seattle Mariners thread
Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:17 pm
  • IndyHawk wrote:
    getnasty wrote:[vine][/vine]
    Sports Hernia wrote:
    Thepeelsessions wrote:Well boys, the hitting ineptitude we've come to know so well here in Seattle was on full display tonight. That was an embarrassment and tough to watch.

    Free Kelenic!


    It's not fair to Kelenic and not best for the team at the moment but i'll wait 15 games when he's young to have another free year when he's older. There needs to be some kind of rule change so teams aren't able to do this to players though.

    It's not fair to Kelenic?Need a rule change?The players voted and agreed to
    it in their union contract with MLB.
    Boo hoo life isn't fair..You don't agree to something and then cry when it doesn't
    fit your view...The M's are doing exactly what they can do and many teams have
    already done.If the players don't like the process then get it changed in the next
    contract.I'm so tired of the baby attitudes that pros have today in all the sports.

    I don’t necessarily disagree with your main premise but when this guy is one of the best players in the league, and gets traded for scraps before his original contract is up because he is pissed and won’t sign an extension here, it’s because the Mariners played silly and unnecessary arbitration games.

    The Mariners front offices and ownership groups thru the years have always thought they were the smartest guys in the room, except they never have been. There is a reason they are the only current MLB team to never appear in a World Series.
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Re: The 2021 Seattle Mariners thread
Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:40 pm
  • Just like that Paxton is hurt just about an inning into the season.
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Re: The 2021 Seattle Mariners thread
Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:41 pm
  • Paxton just left the game with an arm injury, doesn’t look good.
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Re: The 2021 Seattle Mariners thread
Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:44 pm
  • Hawk-Lock wrote:Just like that Paxton is hurt just about an inning into the season.

    No way I expected him to last the season, but no way I expected him to get knocked out after 1.1 innings, either. Ridiculous.
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Re: The 2021 Seattle Mariners thread
Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:53 pm
  • I think HOPE just died, at this rate Haniger should be a yankee by the end of April...lulz

    While I think the build up of young talent was needed and for the most part done well,this team will not make the playoffs until they hire a bigger than the team manager. The only time this team has ever had real success is with Lou who was the biggest personality in the clubhouse. He could handle the pressure for the players and rightfully had all the players respect.

    Servais is a good dude, he will never be a HOF’er. This franchise needs to go for broke and get off the snide. 19 years and rolling
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Re: The 2021 Seattle Mariners thread
Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:44 am
  • 59 S.O. In 5 games...at least they don’t lead this category
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Re: The 2021 Seattle Mariners thread
Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:52 am
  • 4 runs allowed in the 8th to the White Sox.
    Are we ever going to fix the bullpen?

    Hitting is still awful.

    Release the Kelenic
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Re: The 2021 Seattle Mariners thread
Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:49 am
  • Jerhawk wrote:4 runs allowed in the 8th to the White Sox.
    Are we ever going to fix the bullpen?

    Hitting is still awful.

    Release the Kelenic

    Then need Lewis and Kelenic in that lineup.
    Evan White’s approach at the plate is awful and hasn’t improved since last year.
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Re: The 2021 Seattle Mariners thread
Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:29 pm
  • Y'all talking like it's the middle of June or something. We just finished the first week of the season and we're 3-3. :mrgreen:

    Dunn really struggled today, but some nice hitting in the 6th inning. Ty France with an 11 pitch walk. :shock: Seags with a bases clearing 3-run double to left field. :mrgreen:

    Now off to the Twins.
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Re: The 2021 Seattle Mariners thread
Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:59 pm
  • sutz wrote:Y'all talking like it's the middle of June or something. We just finished the first week of the season and we're 3-3. :mrgreen:

    Dunn really struggled today, but some nice hitting in the 6th inning. Ty France with an 11 pitch walk. :shock: Seags with a bases clearing 3-run double to left field. :mrgreen:

    Now off to the Twins.


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Re: The 2021 Seattle Mariners thread
Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:02 pm
  • Jerhawk wrote:
    sutz wrote:Y'all talking like it's the middle of June or something. We just finished the first week of the season and we're 3-3. :mrgreen:

    Dunn really struggled today, but some nice hitting in the 6th inning. Ty France with an 11 pitch walk. :shock: Seags with a bases clearing 3-run double to left field. :mrgreen:

    Now off to the Twins.


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Re: The 2021 Seattle Mariners thread
Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:53 pm
  • sutz wrote:Y'all talking like it's the middle of June or something. We just finished the first week of the season and we're 3-3. :mrgreen:

    Dunn really struggled today, but some nice hitting in the 6th inning. Ty France with an 11 pitch walk. :shock: Seags with a bases clearing 3-run double to left field. :mrgreen:

    Now off to the Twins.

    Nope, just pointing out the obvious I guess.

    With Paxton out and Sheffield and Dunn struggling their pitching looks kind of weak.
    Still way early though.

    That France AB was one of the best non hit AB’s I’ve seen in a long while.

    Free Kelenic.
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Re: The 2021 Seattle Mariners thread
Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:53 pm
  • Sports Hernia wrote:
    sutz wrote:Y'all talking like it's the middle of June or something. We just finished the first week of the season and we're 3-3. :mrgreen:

    Dunn really struggled today, but some nice hitting in the 6th inning. Ty France with an 11 pitch walk. :shock: Seags with a bases clearing 3-run double to left field. :mrgreen:

    Now off to the Twins.

    Nope, just pointing out the obvious I guess.

    With Paxton out and Sheffield and Dunn struggling their pitching looks kind of weak.
    Still way early though.

    That France AB was one of the best non hit AB’s I’ve seen in a long while.

    Free Kelenic.


    Yeah, I love how France works his plate appearances so far. I'm starting to see what made Jerry and friends fall in love with him way back when.

    Dunn hasn't really impressed at all since he's been here. Similar to Sheffield, except Sheffield has had a couple dominant games. I have a feeling the pitching is what will hold this team back overall.

    Evan White.....I don't even know. I feel like he's the Mike Zunino of 1st base. He just seems like he has no idea what he's doing at the plate. I don't care how good his defense is, he needs to spend time in Tacoma. Maybe even Arkansas. Maybe it's just me, but I feel like 1st base is a position you can afford to have a little less glove at. He needs a major tune up.
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Re: The 2021 Seattle Mariners thread
Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:22 pm
  • getnasty wrote:
    IndyHawk wrote:
    getnasty wrote:[vine][/vine]
    Sports Hernia wrote:Free Kelenic!


    It's not fair to Kelenic and not best for the team at the moment but i'll wait 15 games when he's young to have another free year when he's older. There needs to be some kind of rule change so teams aren't able to do this to players though.

    It's not fair to Kelenic?Need a rule change?The players voted and agreed to
    it in their union contract with MLB.
    Boo hoo life isn't fair..You don't agree to something and then cry when it doesn't
    fit your view...The M's are doing exactly what they can do and many teams have
    already done.If the players don't like the process then get it changed in the next
    contract.I'm so tired of the baby attitudes that pros have today in all the sports.


    Calm down buddy. I don’t feel bad for any professional athlete as they all have it pretty good. I also understand that the players union signs off on these things. Still sucks for Kelenic and for the fans but i wouldn't do anything different if i were the M's front office.

    Hernia does bring up a good point though that they could be burning bridges with a stud who's good enough to be on the opening day roster.

    Lol @Calm down...The post may seem like I wasn't but actually I was calm.
    Being a fan of this franchise requires thick skin lol.
    I did watch last nights comeback win and it was fun to see the Sox go from
    smug looks as if it was won to wtf just happened? :lol:
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Re: The 2021 Seattle Mariners thread
Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:35 pm
  • Marco has not looked good in his 2 starts.
    He and the rest of the starting pitching staff need to step it up with Pax being out.

    This offense is it’s current state is nowhere near capable of always coming from behind in games.






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Re: The 2021 Seattle Mariners thread
Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:50 pm
  • Sports Hernia wrote:Marco has not looked good in his 2 starts.
    He and the rest of the starting pitching staff need to step it up with Pax being out.

    This offense is it’s current state is nowhere near capable of always coming from behind in games.






    Free Kelenic!



    Honestly, Marco should not be a top of the rotation guy. He's more of a 3rd/4th starter. I just don't think this pitching staff has the juice to keep games close. Can we trust Kikuchi after one good games. Way too early know anything about Flexen. You never know which Sheffield will show up, just like Marco. Then we have Justin "Walks" Dunn.

    And you're right about the offense. It's not good enough to stay in games that are getting out of hand night in and night out. Jerry has his work cut out for him if he wants this team to compete this year.
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Re: The 2021 Seattle Mariners thread
Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:27 pm
  • Thepeelsessions wrote:
    Sports Hernia wrote:Marco has not looked good in his 2 starts.
    He and the rest of the starting pitching staff need to step it up with Pax being out.

    This offense is it’s current state is nowhere near capable of always coming from behind in games.






    Free Kelenic!



    Honestly, Marco should not be a top of the rotation guy. He's more of a 3rd/4th starter. I just don't think this pitching staff has the juice to keep games close. Can we trust Kikuchi after one good games. Way too early know anything about Flexen. You never know which Sheffield will show up, just like Marco. Then we have Justin "Walks" Dunn.

    And you're right about the offense. It's not good enough to stay in games that are getting out of hand night in and night out. Jerry has his work cut out for him if he wants this team to compete this year.


    This was precisely my reaction. It's hard to be optimistic when our 1/2 starters are really just a solid 3/4 to 4/5 duo.
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Re: The 2021 Seattle Mariners thread
Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:50 pm
  • Just read an article that said Paxton will probably need Tommy John surgery. Classic Mariners move to bring back a guy that was basically unreliable, only to lose him to injury again.
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Re: The 2021 Seattle Mariners thread
Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:52 pm
  • I think Montero is not consistent enough to be the closer. :34853_doh:

    Good game, though. Quality start by YK, some long ball and some clutch little ball, too.

    We'll take it.
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Re: The 2021 Seattle Mariners thread
Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:43 pm
  • Good to see the rookie Trammell go yard too.
    And Hanger had some clutch AB’s today, which isn’t surprising.
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