http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2013/6/16/4 ... ship-group

Happy for y'all if it comes to fruition.

Very interesting. Long time Sharks fan, I would have to switch and root for the home town team. Hopefully this leads to the NBA following suit to Seattle as well.

Blitzer88 wrote:Very interesting. Long time Sharks fan, I would have to switch and root for the home town team. Hopefully this leads to the NBA following suit to Seattle as well.

I think we'll get NBA expansion news very soon, theres no way in my mind, the NHL lets this team come to Seattle to play in the Key without some type of idea of when the SoDo arena gets going.

What's with that stupid fighting crap? Are they gonna do THAT?

Lords of Scythia wrote:What's with that stupid fighting crap? Are they gonna do THAT?

That'd be one way to get me to watch, 1 fight each game plz.

Throwdown wrote:

Blitzer88 wrote:Very interesting. Long time Sharks fan, I would have to switch and root for the home town team. Hopefully this leads to the NBA following suit to Seattle as well.

I think we'll get NBA expansion news very soon, theres no way in my mind, the NHL lets this team come to Seattle to play in the Key without some type of idea of when the SoDo arena gets going.

That's my thinking. Either they are using us as leverage (though the NHL is absolutely fed up with Glendale), they know something we don't and have heard through the grapevine that the NBA is expanding, or the other owners will look to modify the MOU while Hansen gets the NBA figured out. I'm trying not to get too excited, but I may just convince the better half that we have to move back to Seattle so I can see some NHL/NFL and NBA games more often.

Please, please make this happen! And don't string us along only to slap us in the face like Stern did with the Sonics.

Doesn't sound like there will be any stringing along, either Glendale bends over and gives it up, or the team goes to the group that will move em to Seattle, it could happen all in a week.

Throwdown wrote:Doesn't sound like there will be any stringing along, either Glendale bends over and gives it up, or the team goes to the group that will move em to Seattle, it could happen all in a week.

Which is why I'm not getting my hopes up until something is announced one way or another. Still, the possibilities are fun to think about. And maybe this kicks this NBA's ass into expansion. Or they know it's happening anyways and that is why this is going down.

If we can get an NHL team, modify the MOU, and build the arena, it will be even easier to get an NBA team as we already would have the arena built or under construction. This is good, good, good, good, good.

Here's some background on the potential Seattle NHL owners, from Chris Daniels

http://www.chpllc.com/team

NHL! NHL! NHL!

Throwdown wrote:Doesn't sound like there will be any stringing along, either Glendale bends over and gives it up, or the team goes to the group that will move em to Seattle, it could happen all in a week.

Wow that is good news. Of course, we started out very optimistic on the NBA thing too.

Tech Worlds wrote:If we can get an NHL team, modify the MOU, and build the arena, it will be even easier to get an NBA team as we already would have the arena built or under construction. This is good, good, good, good, good.

Yes, it is! And for the record, I'm much, much more excited about getting an NHL team here than an NBA team, even if there is a ton of NBA history here. Hockey is so much fun to watch live!

I hope it happens because then I will not care if the NBA ever comes here. The NBA can suck it as far as I'm concerned. I thought that they were the only reason for our chances at getting an NHL team, but if the NHL is coming first, great, I never have to care about the league again.

Someone wanna give me a crash court on modern Hockey? who are the IT guys? the storied franchises? The NHL's equivalent to the 12th man?

I'm intrigued to try just ONE game if they do come.

I'm preparing myself to get used as leverage again.

But the two important dates here, June 25th Glendale city council meets, July 2nd is deadline for their arena plan, or its move to Seattle time.

So the Coyotes are the old Winnipeg Jets team. Just daydreaming here, as I doubt this is going to happen. What would the new name be? Stick with Coyotes? Go back to Jets? Mets? Olympics? Cascades? Steal the Thunderbirds name(is that possible)?

twisted_steel2 wrote:I'm preparing myself to get used as leverage again.

But the two important dates here, June 25th Glendale city council meets, July 2nd is deadline for their arena plan, or its move to Seattle time.

So the Coyotes are the old Winnipeg Jets team. Just daydreaming here, as I doubt this is going to happen. What would the new name be? Stick with Coyotes? Go back to Jets? Mets? Olympics? Cascades? Steal the Thunderbirds name(is that possible)?

It sounds like we are being used as leverage, thats why this story leaked I'm guessing.

We gotta hope Glendale turns down the deal to subsidize this new ownership group that wants to keep the team in at Jobing.com Arena.

Throwdown wrote:Someone wanna give me a crash court on modern Hockey? who are the IT guys? the storied franchises? The NHL's equivalent to the 12th man?

I'm intrigued to try just ONE game if they do come.

Alex Ovechkin is a beast. He's a monster of a man, swift on his skates, physical, and can shoot like none other. Though he plays for the Washington (DC) Capitols, he's a lot of fun to watch. Sidney Crosby, of the Pittsburgh Penguins, is likewise fun to watch when he is not injured. Pavel Datsyuk of the Red Wings is a bad ass.

The modern NHL is so full of talented players that only a few names become publicly recognized. I think this also has to do with strike seasons shrinking the fanbase somewhat.

SmokinHawk wrote:

Throwdown wrote:Someone wanna give me a crash court on modern Hockey? who are the IT guys? the storied franchises? The NHL's equivalent to the 12th man?

I'm intrigued to try just ONE game if they do come.

Alex Ovechkin is a beast. He's a monster of a man, swift on his skates, physical, and can shoot like none other. Though he plays for the Washington (DC) Capitols, he's a lot of fun to watch. Sidney Crosby, of the Pittsburgh Penguins, is likewise fun to watch when he is not injured. Pavel Datsyuk of the Red Wings is a bad ass.

The modern NHL is so full of talented players that only a few names become publicly recognized. I think this also has to do with strike seasons shrinking the fanbase somewhat.

Datsyuk is a magician.

As for storied franchises, there are the "Original Six," who weren't necessarily all actually original, but they formed the entirety of the league for 25 years from the early 1940's to the late 1960's when the NHL expanded. Bruins, Wings, Blackhawks, Canadiens, Maple Leafs, Rangers.

Another hockey fun fact-Outside of watching the Seahawks, hockey is the most exciting sport to watch live.

Throwdown wrote:Someone wanna give me a crash court on modern Hockey? who are the IT guys? the storied franchises? The NHL's equivalent to the 12th man?

I'm intrigued to try just ONE game if they do come.

Interesting excersise. Ill try. Best team Chicago Blackhawks. Most storied franchise is probably Montreal Canadiens (think yankees). Team that thinks is the centre of the universe is the Toronto Maple Leafs (cowboys). most despised team Vancouver canucks, divers, line up full of douche bags and thugs, fans actually burn the city to the ground when they loose the cup (raiders). As a Nuck fan I dont think it applies anymore but its a rep thats hard to shake. Most saddest sack team Ny Islanders or Edmonton Oilers. Isles were better this year finally and Oil with all those first overall picks should eventually not suck.

As for players. Crosby is the face of the league (gretzky Jordan). Most exciting player probably Ovechkin. The guy is a magician. Most over rated players, anyone one from Canadiens, Leafs or Detroit Redwings. Dirtiest/best hitter probably Raffi Torres from the sharks. Best goal scorer probably Stamkos from Tampa. Best set up man probably Henrick Sedin from Canucks.

As for fans. Canadien and leaf fans are fanatical. Like green bay or cowboy fans.

What about this Coyotes team? I know they were in the playoffs not too long ago, is this team any good?

Throwdown wrote:What about this Coyotes team? I know they were in the playoffs not too long ago, is this team any good?

I don't know much about them but they have had a flurry of struggles. Gambling scandal, financial issues etc. I think though hockey is more like baseball I'm that an eighth seed can win it all and unlike other sports hockey players seem to stay Where they are more than basketball and baseball.

I love hockey, would be so pumped to get a team here. An NHL team in Seattle would quickly become a destination team as well given geography in relation to the majority of players being perfectly comfortable with this climate. Unlike modern NBA players who look to get to LA, NY or Miami ASAP.

I love my Lakers and basketball, yes. But if you get sick of flopping and guys writhing in pain from a scrape, get ready to watch dudes kill penalties with fractured legs.

Plus, our natural geographical rivals (Canucks) are easily one of the most hateable teams in sports.

Sounds like they have until the first week of July to get something done or they are Seattles. This doesn't seem like something they are using Seattle as leverage for, they haven't had an owner for years and lose 35-40 million a year. The NHL isn't intrested in losing money.

The current coach (no longer under contract, but we could still keep him) has never had a losing season.

Oh, and JR will be involved with the team if it comes to Seattle!

The Coyotes were in the Western Conference Finals just last year - as a 3 seed. Lost to the 8 seed Kings who went on to win the cup.

Am I really this starved for a winter sports? That I ACTUALLY want an NHL team? I don't even know anything about the NHL, only NHL thing I ever owned was NHL 95 (I was cold with Buffalo) for Sega Genesis.

kobebryant wrote:But if you get sick of flopping and guys writhing in pain from a scrape...

Then be prepared to ignore Sidney Crosby.

volsunghawk wrote:

kobebryant wrote:But if you get sick of flopping and guys writhing in pain from a scrape...

Then be prepared to ignore Sidney Crosby.

In fairness to Crosby he has had multiple concussions and a broken jaw. They aren't all flops.

CALIHAWK1 wrote:

volsunghawk wrote:

kobebryant wrote:But if you get sick of flopping and guys writhing in pain from a scrape...

Then be prepared to ignore Sidney Crosby.

In fairness to Crosby he has had multiple concussions and a broken jaw. They aren't all flops.

Exactly, I'd like to see someone in any other sport compete with a broken Jaw just weeks after it happened. Sid gets a lot of hate but I'm a huge fan of his. Guy is a stud.

People were all over him for talking trash to Chara when Chara was trying to leave the ice but not many saw the replay that shows Chara taking a cheap shot punch at Sid's Jaw when he's being held back by another Bruin player - weak Chara, weak.

Also, the Boston Strong Fix is on - has been since Round 1.

CALIHAWK1 wrote:

volsunghawk wrote:

kobebryant wrote:But if you get sick of flopping and guys writhing in pain from a scrape...

Then be prepared to ignore Sidney Crosby.

In fairness to Crosby he has had multiple concussions and a broken jaw. They aren't all flops.

Did he dislodge his jaw while crying to a ref?

I love me some Malkin! Especially after he beat Burgeron's (sp?) face in.

So, stuff went crazy. I guess the Glendale City Council met and there is lots of friction. They don't have a deal, and "there wasn't instant love for the [RSE] proposal."

See below:

Paul Giblin ‏@PaulGiblinAriz 50 s

#Glendale's attorney says city staff will continue talks with #Renaissance. This is certain: There wasn't instant love for the proposal.

Seems to me like Glendale doesn't care near as much about keeping hockey as Sac did about keeping the kings.

They're being asked to subsidize the team AGAIN, i don't blame them if they are fed up.

I get the feeling Seattle is being used again

m0ng0 wrote:I get the feeling Seattle is being used again

Anytime you're plan B, you're leverage, thats just my opinion.

m0ng0 wrote:I get the feeling Seattle is being used again

It's been said as much. I actually do believe things are going on behind the scenes in both leagues to where we are getting to this point.

Don't break my heart again. Aaron Levine comments on the situation: http://q13fox.com/2013/06/16/commentary-a-pro-team-possibly-moving-to-seattle-no-not-again/#axzz2WdVMcgEO

I don't watch hockey near as much as I used to. I always rooted for the Rangers, but if Seattle had a team, they'd be my new favorite by default. I'd probably have to start paying attention again.

CALIHAWK1 wrote:

volsunghawk wrote:

kobebryant wrote:But if you get sick of flopping and guys writhing in pain from a scrape...

Then be prepared to ignore Sidney Crosby.

In fairness to Crosby he has had multiple concussions and a broken jaw. They aren't all flops.

Is there any player in the NHL who doesn't have multiple concussions?

@PaulGiblinAriz: The #Glendale council wants more from the prospective #Coyotes owners. Another private council meeting is set for Friday

Paul Giblin ‏@PaulGiblinAriz 1m
No deal points on a #Glendale-#Coyotes deal will be released Wednesday as previously was expected, because there is no deal.

Still seems like a long shot, lets hope all of the kicking the can down the road act pisses of the NHL, got a feeling Seattle will be getting expansion of the NBA and NHL in the next year or two, just a hunch with a little wishful thinking thrown in.

I think there's a good chance for us to get a team now, but who knows after the Sacramento thing.

Sports Hernia wrote:Still seems like a long shot, lets hope all of the kicking the can down the road act pisses of the NHL, got a feeling Seattle will be getting expansion of the NBA and NHL in the next year or two, just a hunch with a little wishful thinking thrown in.

That's actually been my feeling for awhile, on the NBA at least. Which is what I wanted anyways. On the NHL, I have no freaking idea what will happen. The Coyotes would be nice, really nice, but an expansion team to call our own would be awesome as well. So we'll see.

Sounds like the deal in Glendale fell apart and the losing city council members for the deal are going to try to force a vote to get who scuttled the deal on the record for political purposes.

Don't line up to get your hockey tickets for next year just yet, but do think about budgeting some cash for it. Lots of good news for Seattle today.

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/06/17/seattle-already-in-talks-to-bring-nhl-team-to-city

From that article:

Hansen, however, previously indicated he would be open to breaking ground if the first tenant were to be an NHL team.

They leave out that his indication also came with an NHL ownership group that was willing to put up the money on spec that an NBA team would come and Hansen's money would go in. Hopefully Hansen seemingly working with this group means that the NHL group is willing to step up until Hansen has a reason to sink the bulk of his money in.

That's what I'm hoping. After the NBA I'm expecting nothing to really happen, but hoping it does.

pinksheets wrote:They leave out that his indication also came with an NHL ownership group that was willing to put up the money on spec that an NBA team would come and Hansen's money would go in. Hopefully Hansen seemingly working with this group means that the NHL group is willing to step up until Hansen has a reason to sink the bulk of his money in.

I think any NHL team that comes here would assume an NBA team would follow suit sometime in the future, just as any NBA team would assume the NHL would. It's been a two-fer stadium plan from the get-go. To think the NHL would assume the NBA dead and gone permanently because of Stern's recent asshattery is preposterous.