Blitzer88
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His strength has never been the question, his ability to stay on the field is what remains to be seen.
nsport":3qsq5ty9 said:We've all said this a hundred times - but after a full roster rebuild, don't we have unwavering faith in our FO?
I would say since Carpenter is still here, he must be doing some things right. Enough so, that it's worth taking the time to bring him to an elite level. I think it's conjecture on what those things could be - but throw out a few of them:
- Playbook knowledge
- Thinks the right way
- Done everything that's asked / great attitude
- Workouts / Weight control / Size
- Flexibility (RT, OG)
- Practices show improvement
- Rapport with teammates
I think we all remember him being road graded in pass protection his rookie year. Is that realistic to think he should have been ready? Maybe! But the fact he's still here means something.
HawkWow":3b6l50yy said:I realized after posting that, it probably sounded arrogant and I'd likely take some heat.
No arrogance here..... more like flat on my back, facing another major surgery because of lifting heavy. I miss it, I'm medicated and I made the mistake of posting while medicated. Thanks for stepping on my neck..
Back on topic...If he makes 53, I am confident this will be Carpenter's break out year. Why? Because he won't make 53 if PC and Cable think it won't be his break out year. If he succeeds, it will be like a bonus at this point.
nategreat":kvgvv215 said:HawkWow":kvgvv215 said:I realized after posting that, it probably sounded arrogant and I'd likely take some heat.
No arrogance here..... more like flat on my back, facing another major surgery because of lifting heavy. I miss it, I'm medicated and I made the mistake of posting while medicated. Thanks for stepping on my neck..
Back on topic...If he makes 53, I am confident this will be Carpenter's break out year. Why? Because he won't make 53 if PC and Cable think it won't be his break out year. If he succeeds, it will be like a bonus at this point.
Haha just giving you a hard time. I agree about Carp- this could very well be his breakout year, and it's fun imagining a healthy left side of the line consisting of Okung, Carpenter, and Unger. Could potentially be the best left side in football.
nategreat":1a57j5xh said:HawkWow":1a57j5xh said:I realized after posting that, it probably sounded arrogant and I'd likely take some heat.
No arrogance here..... more like flat on my back, facing another major surgery because of lifting heavy. I miss it, I'm medicated and I made the mistake of posting while medicated. Thanks for stepping on my neck..
Back on topic...If he makes 53, I am confident this will be Carpenter's break out year. Why? Because he won't make 53 if PC and Cable think it won't be his break out year. If he succeeds, it will be like a bonus at this point.
Haha just giving you a hard time. I agree about Carp- this could very well be his breakout year, and it's fun imagining a healthy left side of the line consisting of Okung, Carpenter, and Unger. Could potentially be the best left side in football.
Atradees":3804uws1 said:Unfortunately that's only 50% of his weight.
Nice!HawkWow":2dpu3y6x said:Looks like 405 from my vantage.
Done that.
Sh*t, at almost 900# that should be an amazing blocker!! His nickname is now "The Monument"Atradees":2p0720sf said:Unfortunately that's only 50% of his weight.
HawKnPeppa":2z4s9nrt said:'Road graded' in pass protection? Really?! :???:
sutz":3wiubbqg said:I'm with the 'the coaches must see something in him to keep him around" crowd. I also think that it takes a couple of years, and it could be longer if injuries are involved.
One indicator of how the FO/coaches feel is that they didn't go out of their way to pick his replacement, either in FA or the '12 draft. It would seem that if they had major concerns, they would have drafted OL in the 2nd/3rd round, instead of waiting to pick up 3rd day projects like they did. Or made a move there, instead of skill position players like Harvin and Willson.
One other thing is that we may now have enough OL depth to let this situation play out a little longer. IMHO, the risk is pretty low that hanging on to Carp will be a major drag on the team. We did pretty well without him, and Cable seems to have a knack for coaching up guys to step in to cover for the inevitable injuries.
I'm in favor of letting him continue to work to get back on the field. I think he could eventually be a major asset.
JaiSeaSea":15fefsql said:Nice!HawkWow":15fefsql said:Looks like 405 from my vantage.
Done that.
But aren't those 4 fiftys on eafh side plus I see a smaller one on the right. 15#? Plus the bar..... it could be 445#... helluva lift either way.
HawkWow":10jf8rd7 said:Looks like 405 from my vantage.
Done that.
vanillasuede":2e6qwydg said:Unfortunately, Carpenter is a bust.
HawkWow":2woilftd said:BeMorePunk (love the name)...Wouldn't that add up to 425?
Regardless, it does not detract from your point: the guy is clearly a monster (especially if we're talking about multiple reps, as in more than 1).
I remember Steve Emtman threw around some incredible weight in his day. Brian Habib as well (Go Dawgs).