Frank Clark's Police Report (For Off Field Discussion)

[bigtrain21]

I'd bet most men in the NFL have hit/abused a woman but just havn't been caught. This is why people just need to focus on the game and not get into personal lives.

I'd bet most haven't.

 

[massari]

I'd bet most men in the NFL have hit/abused a woman but just havn't been caught. This is why people just need to focus on the game and not get into personal lives.

I'd bet most haven't.

You obviously havn't seen these guys in a party setting around women, have you? Or had friends or sisters who attend a school or party with football teams present?

Though, it's mostly a delusion on my part that MOST are abusers so probably should just keep it to myself. :lol:

 

[Scottemojo]

I'd bet most men in the NFL have hit/abused a woman but just havn't been caught. This is why people just need to focus on the game and not get into personal lives.

I'd bet most haven't.

You obviously havn't seen these guys in a party setting around women, have you? Or had friends or sisters who attend a school or party with football teams present?

Though, it's mostly a delusion on my part that MOST are abusers so probably should just keep it to myself. :lol:

You are doing the exact same thing many of the people condemning Clark are doing. Guessing about things you don't actually know.

 

[massari]

I'd bet most men in the NFL have hit/abused a woman but just havn't been caught. This is why people just need to focus on the game and not get into personal lives.

I'd bet most haven't.

You obviously havn't seen these guys in a party setting around women, have you? Or had friends or sisters who attend a school or party with football teams present?

Though, it's mostly a delusion on my part that MOST are abusers so probably should just keep it to myself. :lol:

You are doing the exact same thing many of the people condemning Clark are doing. Guessing about things you don't actually know.

Maybe the difference is that I realize those types of opinions are delusional, meaning not necessarily reality, so just because I'd bet that most (meaning anything over 50%) NFL players have abused a woman physically/sexually one time or another, doesn't mean I think it's fact. It's like betting on the outcome of a football game. I don't know who's going to win but I have personal views to make me lean towards one side over the other.

 

[Melencause]

Not good. Sounds like he admitted hitting her.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ank-clark/

It seems all a reporter has to do is to print an article for people to believe it.
Sad

 

[Shadowhawk]

Not good. Sounds like he admitted hitting her.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ank-clark/

That's just a rehash of Geoff Baker's article which is discussed earlier in the thread. Plus, this is written by Mike Florio, which is reason in and of itself to doubt its veracity.

 

[TheWalrus]

For me this controversy ended when I saw the quotes from the prosecutor.

Maybe she is incompetent, I don't care, but I'm not about to be outraged by Seahawks decision to draft this guy, when a prosecutor in charge of the case doesn't seem to think too much of the incident. Sorry!

Give me a break!

 

[grizbob]

Maybe the difference is that I realize those types of opinions are delusional, meaning not necessarily reality, so just because I'd bet that most (meaning anything over 50%) NFL players have abused a woman physically/sexually one time or another, doesn't mean I think it's fact. It's like betting on the outcome of a football game. I don't know who's going to win but I have personal views to make me lean towards one side over the other.

Huh? :?

 

[ducks41468]

I think a lot of the outrage is because the Seahawks were the team that drafted him. We're already widely reviled by media trolls and fans alike, and this is just more fuel to the fire. Imagine if the Ravens drafted him, for example. It would be just as bad. I doubt most of this nonsense even has to do with Clark himself.

 

[PlinytheCenter]

Be really fun to watch his first 10 or so sacks this season. This is about football, and a lot of this hand-wringing will be gone. It works for moral apologists and self-righteous dummies equally well.

 

[kf3339]

Tom Brady lied about his involvement in illegally deflating footballs, refused to cooperate with the investigator, in affect dared the league to go after him and is now crying like a baby and challenging the decision which IMO was way to easy on him. And yet this is what some people still want to talk about?

Come on.

 

[massari]

Tom Brady lied about his involvement in illegally deflating footballs, refused to cooperate with the investigator, in affect dared the league to go after him and is now crying like a baby and challenging the decision which IMO was way to easy on him. And yet this is what some people still want to talk about?

Come on.

I think he's saying abusing footballs is worse than abusing a human being.

 

[massari]

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[Hawkscanner]

I fully expect that the release of this video will re-fuel this discussion and bring out passionate debate on both sides. After listening to this though, I would say that (unfortunately) the police footage we see here doesn't really give us anything we haven't already heard. Perhaps others may see this differently, but after viewing this I would say that there is really no new information to be gained here.

 

[kf3339]

Tom Brady lied about his involvement in illegally deflating footballs, refused to cooperate with the investigator, in affect dared the league to go after him and is now crying like a baby and challenging the decision which IMO was way to easy on him. And yet this is what some people still want to talk about?

Come on.

I think he's saying abusing footballs is worse than abusing a human being.

No, if you are referring to me then I'm saying that the Frank Clark argument of his past is over at this point. The team made a decision to give him the benefit of the doubt and we should as well. I could give a rats ass about news commentators and writers with their biased agendas. He is our player and am very glad he is on this team.

 

[MysterMatt]

I fully expect that the release of this video will re-fuel this discussion and bring out passionate debate on both sides. After listening to this though, I would say that (unfortunately) the police footage we see here doesn't really give us anything we haven't already heard. Perhaps others may see this differently, but after viewing this I would say that there is really no new information to be gained here.

That's because there is no new information here. It's just more piling on, but if anything it supports the actual facts of the case and not what the media and some idiots around here so desperately want to believe.

 

[Basis4day]

I fully expect that the release of this video will re-fuel this discussion and bring out passionate debate on both sides. After listening to this though, I would say that (unfortunately) the police footage we see here doesn't really give us anything we haven't already heard. Perhaps others may see this differently, but after viewing this I would say that there is really no new information to be gained here.

I listened to it. Doesn't seem to offer anything new. Only thing it really tells you is how he sounded when talking to the cops.
He's relatively cooperative. Admits he had been drinking, sounds like he agreed to the pat-down. Doesn't make any clearer what did or didn't happen between them.

 

[Lords of Scythia]

Regardless Clark will now have a spot light shining upon his off field activities. I hope he understands that he will be held to a higher standard now. He will get his chance to show who he truly is.

I just hope he understands how much trouble and stress the Sea org and fans have endured and goes out and abuses somebody--on the field.

 

[NFSeahawks]

How I feel talking about this:

I think we should judge how he will turn out with the Seahawks based on one mistake he made in the past, without doing research and having all the details on that incident. Hes obviously a terrible person because the media painted that picture for me to believe, and the media doesn't lie and always tells the complete story. :sarcasm_off: