chris98251
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LTH":1qj3mriq said:John63":1qj3mriq said:LTH":1qj3mriq said:John63":1qj3mriq said:Yes, he only answers to the owner he has full control. and KJ and others have made it pretty clear. and PCs own words Let me remind people and it is posted in this forum someplace, right after the first game PC said he was not that happy with the offense. Shortly after in another interview he said he and Waldron talked and Waldron knows what we want. Think about all of this KJ had been with the Hawks forever don't you think he would know? Also, we heard it from Olsen as well.
That aside if he has complete control which he does then it all stops and starts with him. You want to say it's the other coaches fine but who hires them? PC, you want to say it's Wilson or other players? Fine but who got them and kept them? PC. When you put yourself in the position of this much power it all starts and stops with you, period.
I agree with Jammerhawk.
I think it's still unclear how much Pete goes beyond an initial frame work of what he wants to see. I think he wants to see development of his coaches and coordinators and him self for that matter. I think the most likely scenario is that most of the time they work together to create a game plan. I don't think KJ made it completely clear other than saying Pete has the final say over game planning.. IMO that's the way it should be.
all this pod cast did was give us a glimpse inside I don't think it gave a clear picture of what's going on. I also think KJ was hurt by the Seahawks not letting him retire a Seahawk and I also think KJ has a clear bias towards Norton.
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let's say you are right he only went into the framework. So if that frame is run and throw long you figure out how, that is still a problem. What if his framework is, to play zone and let nothing get behind you. Well okay except that also is a problem. Depending on his framework or marching orders he could severely handcuff both the DC and OC and also make us very predictable which is the biggest issue. That said I am hopeful that what we saw in the last 2 games becomes the norm, not the exception.
But I didn't say that he ONLY went into the frame work. I'm sure he pulls rank when he see's something that is not going to work. I'm mean I don't know it for certain but from what I have read they are going to work together to crate a game plan everybody has the frame work and everybody has a job to do.. this much I know..
You bring up this scenario and I don't have anything to say about it because I really don't know exactly how Carroll when or why Carroll jumps in....but I understand what your trying to say, and I understand that you don't agree with YOUR perception of what Carroll is doing....I just think there is NOT enough info for ME to make a determination fo me to make an opinion.
The call in SB vs the Pats. I don't know who called the play. It might have been that Carroll said I want a pass play here, and Bevel called the play which was a stupid play to call because the Pats saw that on tape against the panthers or it might have been that DB called the play and Pete was taking the hit for him...or it could have been all Carroll
we just don't know the exact details top lay blame
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Pete, he called the damn time out, they were lined up. Even Bill was shocked they called the time out since we had momentum and were picking up yards in chunks. Thats when they changed the play and got caught up in miscommunications also.
So twofold, game management and play call, both Pete, execution bad as well.