Lagartixa
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Point is, great QBs pull out wins when the chips are down.
Like at the goal line late in the fourth quarter of a Super Bowl when down by four? I guess we can agree it's a shame the Seahawks didn't have a great QB in Super Bowl XLIX.
See thats the problem with so many, they have to have data points for everything. Take all the stats and numbers you need for Geno Montana and it still equates to 9-8. Average. When he can lead a team to something better than that and a post season win somewhere along the line, get back to me.
The whole point of the conversation was debating whether a good\great QB gets better results than an average QB. Smith had a very good first half of a season last year and fans now have a misconception that he's now a good to great QB although he obviously could have done better and the win\loss record clearly shows that.
I fully expect Smith to be roughly league-average this season. But with the contract Smith signed, a league-average performance will be a huge bargain for the Seahawks because his 2023 cap number is $10.1M.
Things could be a lot worse. It could have been the Seahawks overpaying Russell Wilson for well-below-league-average performance. It would have been even worse than what the Broncos got (which is already a $#!+ sandwich for them), because Wilson made it clear he was willing to take less to play for the Broncos than he would have had to get to stay with the Seahawks (plus he needed an amount of "control" the Seahawks were never going to give him).
Even though I'm expecting something in the neighborhood of league-average performance from Smith in 2023, and for Wilson to be noticeably less bad than he was last season with Payton implementing the "Peteball" (which would more accurately be called "Russball") approach that has been shown to be the only way to get positive value out of Wilson, I expect Wilson to be less productive than Smith again, and while Wilson's cap number is "only" $22M this year and "only" $35.4M in 2024, he is unlikely to be worth his cap number ever again in his career. I expect Wilson not to be an NFL starting quarterback by 2025, when the Broncos can actually gain a little cap space by cutting him with "just" $49.6M in dead money. I don't think he'll want to be on a roster for backup-QB money, so I fully expect him to be out of the league in 2025.