The real question is which round of a draft pick is Mayfield worth? 7th? Sure. 6th? Maybe. 5th? No.
So a 6th with a heavy incentive contract is the best option.
You pose a lot of good questions regarding why the Browns were so anxious to cut bait with Mayfield, and I'll toss in another one that you didn't mention.Mayfield’s fully guaranteed contract for this season is $18.858 mil. The ‘ Factory of Sadness ‘ is willing to eat half of that salary to rid themselves of him. They also rid themselves of a potential compensatory pick if he gets picked up elsewhere and another team is willing to pay him at even a mid range level.
Frankly I’d wait and watch hoping Cleveland will eat more pain and salary here before trading much of anything for Mayfield. Still truly think this whole discussion is a form of promotion by Cleveland, or Mayfield’s agent and the Hawks are not really interested..
Cleveland has truly messed up this situation but looking at it, it’s certainly a situation that bears a lot of scrutiny. Why is Cleveland willing to part with him in such an ugly and shortsighted fashion? Is Mayfield a player worth building a team around? Can he do what the Hawks need him to do? There are many more significant questions and here we just need to have faith that whatever decision the Hawks make on Mayfield will be one that helps the team going forward.
The team has indicated they aren’t interested but yet behind the scenes there is curious activity, an apparent visit to Seattle by Mayfield, recent movement by Cleveland on eating guaranteed salary. There is still some smoke here but maybe it’s just smoke.
Lots of high draft picks at QB don’t pan out. Cleveland and Cincie have a very long list of wasted 1st rd. picks at QB. In the end is Mayfield worth assessing here? For the Hawks what is the opportunity cost?
There are many viewpoints on the player, yet why did Cleveland handle this situation as they did?
1. Actually, he was bad enough and toxic enough to lose his own locker room.Whatever you say, Maelstrom. He's a lot better than Lock and Geno, period. I want the team to win, he makes them better. Why is that hard to understand?
1. Was it Baker Mayfield's fault or was it Odell Beckham Jr's fault? Remember how Percy Harvin fractured our locker room on the Seahawks? Beckham was toxic his whole stint with the Browns.1. Actually, he was bad enough and toxic enough to lose his own locker room.
2. He's got health red flags.
3. Trading for him would cost nearly $20m, and he's not worth half of that. He may be worth nothing, as the team is arguably worse with him.
4. The team is in a rebuild phase and likely cannot reasonably compete for a championship this year. Baker certainly does not change this. Team culture and chemistry is more important than a perhaps slight upgrade talent-wise at quarterback.
Success is the result of making good decisions. Good decisions are the result of maintaining a long-term focus. You are focused on the short-term. That's fine for fans, players, and coaches on game day. It is not good for those making decisions. Short-sighted decisions during a rebuilding period result in perpetual failure. Short-sighted decisions for a team at or near the top result in rapid descent to mediocrity or worse. The only time for short-sighted decision-making is when the team is in position to compete for a championship.Whatever you say, Maelstrom. He's a lot better than Lock and Geno, period. I want the team to win, he makes them better. Why is that hard to understand?
I’d really like it if Geno gets cut. He is about as bad as any qb in the nfl. Really we have had no decent backup qb since Wilson became the starter.Whatever you say, Maelstrom. He's a lot better than Lock and Geno, period. I want the team to win, he makes them better. Why is that hard to understand?
It isn't obvious to me that Baker's "a lot better".Whatever you say, Maelstrom. He's a lot better than Lock and Geno, period. I want the team to win, he makes them better. Why is that hard to understand?
Baker Mayfield is a lot better than Lock, that point is a non-starter. You cannot argue that Lock is almost as good as Mayfield. Even Mayfield's disappointing 2021 is better than anything Lock has put together in the NFL. Athletically, is Lock better? Sure, if you just isolate 40 times and arm strength. Despite Mayfield having a slower 40, he's actually a better scrambler than Lock. He's also better in just about every category where it matters.It isn't obvious to me that Baker's "a lot better".
Lock has better foot speed, at least for 40 yards.
Baker's smaller, certainly has had more wear and tear than Drew Lock. Did you see the final seconds of Baker's 2020 win vs Indy? Baker was knocked out, staggering...maybe avoiding concussion protocol only because the clock was ticking to zero.
Damnit…got my hopes up.Baker Mayfield traded to the Saints...yes!!!!..nevermind it was a spoof source....