mikeak
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Pryor and pick for next year / swapping picks in same round
Hawknballs":pbexakdx said:flynn to the raiders, raiders also draft geno smith, smith the rookie beats out flynn for the job. rinse, repeat.
Schneider has made a lot of great moves, but I can't recall where he got amazing value for a player. Most of his player trades were perceived as being sub-par value, but turned out OK (Josh Wilson, Rob Sims, Seneca Wallace, Lawrence Jackson, etc), mostly because of how well he did replacing those players.Throwdown":6p0dyh06 said:I'll say we got a 3rd because I firmly believe Schneider is a genius.
I don't see how Matt Flynn provides security for SB aspirations. We can find a backup who can come in and win a couple games if need be with these weapons and this defense for cheaper, and there's nothing to suggest Flynn can take us to the promised land if Wilson were out indefinitely. He's just a guy.dsquid":f3sera58 said:Trading Flynn for a 4th or worse makes no sense whatsoever. This would make the team weaker immediately. A team with legit SB aspirations and a rock solid
QB situation trades away security for a late round pick...? I don't see it.
Got to be at LEAST a 3rd...and I see some sort of escalator based on performance as mandatory.
dsquid":3vy7agcx said:Trading Flynn for a 4th or worse makes no sense whatsoever. This would make the team weaker immediately. A team with legit SB aspirations and a rock solid
QB situation trades away security for a late round pick...? I don't see it.
Got to be at LEAST a 3rd...and I see some sort of escalator based on performance as mandatory.
Rat":3vy7agcx said:Schneider has made a lot of great moves, but I can't recall where he got amazing value for a player. Most of his player trades were perceived as being sub-par value, but turned out OK (Josh Wilson, Rob Sims, Seneca Wallace, Lawrence Jackson, etc), mostly because of how well he did replacing those players.Throwdown":3vy7agcx said:I'll say we got a 3rd because I firmly believe Schneider is a genius.
pinksheets":3cgbg7zf said:I don't see how Matt Flynn provides security for SB aspirations. We can find a backup who can come in and win a couple games if need be with these weapons and this defense for cheaper, and there's nothing to suggest Flynn can take us to the promised land if Wilson were out indefinitely. He's just a guy.dsquid":3cgbg7zf said:Trading Flynn for a 4th or worse makes no sense whatsoever. This would make the team weaker immediately. A team with legit SB aspirations and a rock solid
QB situation trades away security for a late round pick...? I don't see it.
Got to be at LEAST a 3rd...and I see some sort of escalator based on performance as mandatory.
Rat":2vk0ioqd said:Schneider has made a lot of great moves, but I can't recall where he got amazing value for a player. Most of his player trades were perceived as being sub-par value, but turned out OK (Josh Wilson, Rob Sims, Seneca Wallace, Lawrence Jackson, etc), mostly because of how well he did replacing those players.Throwdown":2vk0ioqd said:I'll say we got a 3rd because I firmly believe Schneider is a genius.
Rat":2gvhbo3l said:Schneider has made a lot of great moves, but I can't recall where he got amazing value for a player. Most of his player trades were perceived as being sub-par value, but turned out OK (Josh Wilson, Rob Sims, Seneca Wallace, Lawrence Jackson, etc), mostly because of how well he did replacing those players.Throwdown":2gvhbo3l said:I'll say we got a 3rd because I firmly believe Schneider is a genius.
pinksheets":39jyj8tc said:dsquid":39jyj8tc said:Trading Flynn for a 4th or worse makes no sense whatsoever. This would make the team weaker immediately. A team with legit SB aspirations and a rock solid QB situation trades away security for a late round pick...? I don't see it.
Got to be at LEAST a 3rd...and I see some sort of escalator based on performance as mandatory.
I don't see how Matt Flynn provides security for SB aspirations. We can find a backup who can come in and win a couple games if need be with these weapons and this defense for cheaper, and there's nothing to suggest Flynn can take us to the promised land if Wilson were out indefinitely. He's just a guy.
Smelly McUgly":1772oebl said:dsquid":1772oebl said:Trading Flynn for a 4th or worse makes no sense whatsoever. This would make the team weaker immediately. A team with legit SB aspirations and a rock solid
QB situation trades away security for a late round pick...? I don't see it.
Got to be at LEAST a 3rd...and I see some sort of escalator based on performance as mandatory.
Think about it this way: With the cash saved, Schneider can lock up Kam and maybe even sign another guy (Branch? Abraham?). He can also find a backup QB that better fits the offense.
bestfightstory":2gqrox7n said:I predict we come away with Oakland's 2nd.
One way or another.
bestfightstory":1t3cu6pf said:I predict we come away with Oakland's 2nd.
One way or another.
dsquid":3c0tj8ns said:Smelly McUgly":3c0tj8ns said:dsquid":3c0tj8ns said:Trading Flynn for a 4th or worse makes no sense whatsoever. This would make the team weaker immediately. A team with legit SB aspirations and a rock solid
QB situation trades away security for a late round pick...? I don't see it.
Got to be at LEAST a 3rd...and I see some sort of escalator based on performance as mandatory.
Think about it this way: With the cash saved, Schneider can lock up Kam and maybe even sign another guy (Branch? Abraham?). He can also find a backup QB that better fits the offense.
We already have enough money to resign Kam. You don't needlessly weaken a team with SB potential. Unless the deal blows our socks off (and fixes the now GAPING hole at backup QB) you don't make this move.