Sherman option gm thought.

[MizzouHawkGal]

I don't get why people get all up in arms that we may have to pay Earl 10 million and Sherman 12 million (give or take). You pay your core and fill in with rookie contracts and the odd FA here and there. You don't spend 5-6 million on a slot receiver UNLESS you're a pass heavy team (New England, Denver, Detroit) and even then it's not optimal.

 

[BlueTalon]

This should be simple, look Ruskells MO was to pay top dollar for middling production aka branch. Therefore my statement was that Ruskell would have made the mistake of paying tate a lot. I don't think the mistake would have been not paying sherman. Ruskell would have paid sherman imo. He payed Tru and lofa. He under values online that's for sure.
Like I said he would have paid Tate. That's his type of mistake.

Nah, Ruskell would have traded Golden Tate for a 5th round pick shortly after the doughnut episode.

 

[Seahawkfan80]

I don't get why people get all up in arms that we may have to pay Earl 10 million and Sherman 12 million (give or take). You pay your core and fill in with rookie contracts and the odd FA here and there. You don't spend 5-6 million on a slot receiver UNLESS you're a pass heavy team (New England, Denver, Detroit) and even then it's not optimal.

And remember that the core may change. If you have the standard of "ALWAYS COMPETE".

:thirishdrinkers: :thirishdrinkers:

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[chris98251]

If your looking at trades, first you sign Sherman, you see how Simon Lane, and Maxwell play this year, if you think they can play to Shermans level you sign Maxwell for a lesser contract and work a trade for Sherman, you don't weaken your defense, you get picks, and you pick up a few million cap dollars. If Maxwell and Simon can't then you have Sherman on the team.

 

[MPLogick]

For all the Ruskell hate, he did "fleece" the Denver Broncos out of their 1st round pick (Earl Thomas), and get us Max Unger.

Bill Belicheck is an idiot and has been wasting Tom Brady's career away with his egotistical trades. Richard Seymour would have been the difference between winning and losing a Superbowl.

He traded away his 1st to Minnesota last year and IIRC, he could have had Cordarrelle Patterson, a player who probably would have gotten them to the Superbowl.

Belichick turned one year of Richard Seymour, who got $15 million a year from the Raiders and wasn't going to re-sign there, into Nate Solder, who's one of the better left tackles in football and playing on a rookie contract. You know who would make that move? John Schneider.

Trading Sherman would be idiotic, by the way. If you can structure a longer deal so that the later years of the contract come when the cap has gone way up, he may end up taking a smaller percentage of the salary cap then he's worth at that point. That's good investing.

 

[HawkWow]

Why would you compare Sherman to Galloway? One a model citizen and the reason another big time FA stayed for likely less than market value and the other a general malcontent.

I didn't compare Sherman to Galloway. I said a situation such is the one we had with Galloway would be a reason why you'd trade a player of such immense talent. I also said quite emphatically that I don't see this happening with Sherman. It was just a reply to a post about not EVER trading a player of his talent.

Like I said in my original post, there are reasons to trade a player away even one as good as Richard Sherman. I don't see it happening and am not advocating for it at all, just showing that there is precedent and reason for doing so in SOME cases

Absolutely. Every player in the league (without a no-trade clause) is on the trading block. That includes RW and certainly Richard Sherman. They wouldn't, but what if Cleveland were to offer us Haden and Gordon for Sherm? Team first aka, no player is irreplaceable.

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

Player for player trades are so rare as to be virtually nonexistent. The last one of note I remember was Champ Bailey. Draft picks make far more sense in the NFL model.

 

[HawkWow]

Player for player trades are so rare as to be virtually nonexistent. The last one of note I remember was Champ Bailey. Draft picks make far more sense in the NFL model.

Along with the NBA one on one match-ups, I'm bringing player for player trades back to the NFL. ; )

OK..how about this one: Irsay's defense team claims Luck's neck beard drove Jim to a life of drugs, scandal and Amish porn. To save his sanity, and to stop the revocation of his drivers license, Jim throws himself at the mercy of the court and screams "if it weren't for bad Luck I'd have no Luck at all". Midway through his second binge of the day, he offers us Luck and 2 1st rd picks for Wilson. Do we take the deal?

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

Hmm...depends when the picks are. But honestly that would be tempting. Make it 3 because Wilson is too short then I would consider it.