Sherman to reporters " I had the ball "

[Seanhawk]

You guys are missing the point the refs blew the call.what they should have done was sorted out who had the ball in the pile, they most likely would have ruled Seattle ball, if that happened they would have automatically reviewed the play and then could have determined if the ram player had possession or not.. This course of action would have guaranteed that they got things right.. Instead they botched it by calling the ram down, basically they eliminated the option of granting sea the ball by there actions, which in the end turn out to be wrong... Refs should side on letting things play out when uncertain,.. The worst thing that can happen is a premature judgment or whistle.

Jesus Christ. It amazes me how some people are complaining about the officials, but they don't actually know what they are complaining about. They did not call the ball carrier down. They called it a fumble, but because it was under two minutes and the ball carrier fumbled the ball forward, the ball got placed at the spot of the fumble. They did sort out who had it in the pile and they said the Rams recovered. Rewinding the DVR, it looks like either #73 or #46 handed the official the ball. If it had been one of the Hawks, you don't think they would have been livid and demonstrative about it? They all looked dejected.

Pal...Harkey...#46...was outside of the pile. So...

Buddy, no he wasn't. #63 came over and helped him up after the official, who was standing over the pile, grabbed the ball and started walking toward the spot. He was laying on the ground next to a kneeling #73.

 

[hawksincebirth]

I think we"re missing the point the in this thread the refs blew the call.what they should have done was sorted out who had the ball in the pile, they most likely would have ruled Seattle ball, if that happened they would have automatically reviewed the play and then could have determined if the ram player had possession or not.. This course of action would have guaranteed that they got things right.. Instead they botched it by calling the ram player down, basically they eliminated the option of granting sea the ball by there actions, which in the end turn out to be wrong... Refs should side on letting things play out when uncertain,.. The worst thing that can happen is a premature judgment or whistle.

They could've reviewed the recovery, any fumble,turn over, touchdown,etc. can get reviewed under 2mins.


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And he got ripped for that on twitter. Read the comments

 

[minormillikin]

I think we"re missing the point the in this thread the refs blew the call.what they should have done was sorted out who had the ball in the pile, they most likely would have ruled Seattle ball, if that happened they would have automatically reviewed the play and then could have determined if the ram player had possession or not.. This course of action would have guaranteed that they got things right.. Instead they botched it by calling the ram player down, basically they eliminated the option of granting sea the ball by there actions, which in the end turn out to be wrong... Refs should side on letting things play out when uncertain,.. The worst thing that can happen is a premature judgment or whistle.

This.

The ref pulled the ball out of the pile from someone, it wasn't just sitting on the ground. Because they had decided to call the play dead before the scrum, he didn't signify whose ball it was.

They should have called it Seahawks ball (you have to assume he pulled the ball from a Seahawk... Otherwise they could have just called it Rams ball and avoided all controversy), then reviewed the turnover.

Ref problem or not, these are the sort of things that just haven't gone our way so far. If that fumble had bounced slightly differently, we'd all be talking about the ugly win and great resilience of our team.

 

[Seanhawk]

I think we"re missing the point the in this thread the refs blew the call.what they should have done was sorted out who had the ball in the pile, they most likely would have ruled Seattle ball, if that happened they would have automatically reviewed the play and then could have determined if the ram player had possession or not.. This course of action would have guaranteed that they got things right.. Instead they botched it by calling the ram player down, basically they eliminated the option of granting sea the ball by there actions, which in the end turn out to be wrong... Refs should side on letting things play out when uncertain,.. The worst thing that can happen is a premature judgment or whistle.

This.

The ref pulled the ball out of the pile from someone, it wasn't just sitting on the ground. Because they had decided to call the play dead before the scrum, he didn't signify whose ball it was.

They should have called it Seahawks ball (you have to assume he pulled the ball from a Seahawk... Otherwise they could have just called it Rams ball and avoided all controversy), then reviewed the turnover.

Ref problem or not, these are the sort of things that just haven't gone our way so far. If that fumble had bounced slightly differently, we'd all be talking about the ugly win and great resilience of our team.

They didn't call it dead before the scrum. The official said the Rams recovered the ball. If you're going to complain about the officiating, you should at least know what was called on the field.

 

[minormillikin]

I think we"re missing the point the in this thread the refs blew the call.what they should have done was sorted out who had the ball in the pile, they most likely would have ruled Seattle ball, if that happened they would have automatically reviewed the play and then could have determined if the ram player had possession or not.. This course of action would have guaranteed that they got things right.. Instead they botched it by calling the ram player down, basically they eliminated the option of granting sea the ball by there actions, which in the end turn out to be wrong... Refs should side on letting things play out when uncertain,.. The worst thing that can happen is a premature judgment or whistle.

This.

The ref pulled the ball out of the pile from someone, it wasn't just sitting on the ground. Because they had decided to call the play dead before the scrum, he didn't signify whose ball it was.

They should have called it Seahawks ball (you have to assume he pulled the ball from a Seahawk... Otherwise they could have just called it Rams ball and avoided all controversy), then reviewed the turnover.

Ref problem or not, these are the sort of things that just haven't gone our way so far. If that fumble had bounced slightly differently, we'd all be talking about the ugly win and great resilience of our team.

They didn't call it dead before the scrum. The official said the Rams recovered the ball. If you're going to complain about the officiating, you should at least know what was called on the field.

They said the Ram "recovered" it before the scrum. By the time the ball was in the pile, the refs considered it a dead play. And don't be a jackass, we're on the same side.

 

[dumbrabbit]

Why not at least review it? It's a call that changes the entire game. They can review Helfet's TD but they can't review a Sherman fumble recovery?

 

[Seanhawk]

I think we"re missing the point the in this thread the refs blew the call.what they should have done was sorted out who had the ball in the pile, they most likely would have ruled Seattle ball, if that happened they would have automatically reviewed the play and then could have determined if the ram player had possession or not.. This course of action would have guaranteed that they got things right.. Instead they botched it by calling the ram player down, basically they eliminated the option of granting sea the ball by there actions, which in the end turn out to be wrong... Refs should side on letting things play out when uncertain,.. The worst thing that can happen is a premature judgment or whistle.

This.

The ref pulled the ball out of the pile from someone, it wasn't just sitting on the ground. Because they had decided to call the play dead before the scrum, he didn't signify whose ball it was.

They should have called it Seahawks ball (you have to assume he pulled the ball from a Seahawk... Otherwise they could have just called it Rams ball and avoided all controversy), then reviewed the turnover.

Ref problem or not, these are the sort of things that just haven't gone our way so far. If that fumble had bounced slightly differently, we'd all be talking about the ugly win and great resilience of our team.

They didn't call it dead before the scrum. The official said the Rams recovered the ball. If you're going to complain about the officiating, you should at least know what was called on the field.

They said the Ram "recovered" it before the scrum. By the time the ball was in the pile, the refs considered it a dead play. And don't be a jackass, we're on the same side.

They didn't signal who had the ball until after the scrum.

 

[minormillikin]

It seems weird that Sherman would be lying about this. The guy talks a lot, but he doesn't strike me as dishonest.

 

[BigBill1945]

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[HawkFan72]

It seems weird that Sherman would be lying about this. The guy talks a lot, but he doesn't strike me as dishonest.

He's not lying. He has no reason to lie about this. If the Rams clearly recovered it, then they would all be saying it.

Show me one report of a Rams player saying they got the ball.

Even Jeff Fischer just said "An Offensive player got it" but he can;t name the player. No one on the Rams has admitted to recovering the ball.

Because Sherman had it.

 

[davidonmi]

If Sherman came out with the ball there it makes no difference that there wasn't a clear recovery. The refs screwed up by ruling mason down at the 46. He wasn't even close to being down, not even close

 

[Seanhawk]

If Sherman came out with the ball there it makes no difference that there wasn't a clear recovery. The refs screwed up by ruling mason down at the 46. He wasn't even close to being down, not even close

They did not rule him down. It was ruled a fumble.

 

[Polaris]

I think we"re missing the point the in this thread the refs blew the call.what they should have done was sorted out who had the ball in the pile, they most likely would have ruled Seattle ball, if that happened they would have automatically reviewed the play and then could have determined if the ram player had possession or not.. This course of action would have guaranteed that they got things right.. Instead they botched it by calling the ram player down, basically they eliminated the option of granting sea the ball by there actions, which in the end turn out to be wrong... Refs should side on letting things play out when uncertain,.. The worst thing that can happen is a premature judgment or whistle.

This.

The ref pulled the ball out of the pile from someone, it wasn't just sitting on the ground. Because they had decided to call the play dead before the scrum, he didn't signify whose ball it was.

They should have called it Seahawks ball (you have to assume he pulled the ball from a Seahawk... Otherwise they could have just called it Rams ball and avoided all controversy), then reviewed the turnover.

Ref problem or not, these are the sort of things that just haven't gone our way so far. If that fumble had bounced slightly differently, we'd all be talking about the ugly win and great resilience of our team.

They didn't call it dead before the scrum. The official said the Rams recovered the ball. If you're going to complain about the officiating, you should at least know what was called on the field.

They said the Ram "recovered" it before the scrum. By the time the ball was in the pile, the refs considered it a dead play. And don't be a jackass, we're on the same side.

Yes, but had the play been reviewed like it should have been, it would be clear that the Rams player never had possession (the ball never stops moving). The next person to recover it (and the ball stops moving) is clearly Sherman. The reverse angle shows it magnificently.

 

[dumbrabbit]

Either way, Sherman had the ball and they should have reviewed it. Just look at the replay. Both times Rams players got the ball they lost it before the knees were down. We would have won it with a FG.

 

[HawkFan72]

The play was never reviewed because there was never a turnover. All turnovers are automatically reviewed. But because the refs gave the ball to St. Louis, there was no turnover. So no review necessary. The Rams got to the line and were allowed to run a play right away.

Saying that they reviewed the film in NY and all that is a lie. They are covering their butts. It's the same as the Harvin TD in San Diego. That play was never reviewed either, but they say after the fact that there was nothing conclusive when they reviewed it.

No, the problem is that they OK'd the play so fast that they didn't have time to review it.

 

[davidonmi]

If Sherman came out with the ball there it makes no difference that there wasn't a clear recovery. The refs screwed up by ruling mason down at the 46. He wasn't even close to being down, not even close

They did not rule him down. It was ruled a fumble.

I just saw the tweet. My mistake.
Then I have noidea

 

[Polaris]

The play was never reviewed because there was never a turnover. All turnovers are automatically reviewed. But because the refs gave the ball to St. Louis, there was no turnover. So no review necessary. The Rams got to the line and were allowed to run a play right away.

Saying that they reviewed the film in NY and all that is a lie. They are covering their butts. It's the same as the Harvin TD in San Diego. That play was never reviewed either, but they say after the fact that there was nothing conclusive when they reviewed it.

No, the problem is that they OK'd the play so fast that they didn't have time to review it.

Yep. The replay official should have buzzed down for a review. Had this been done, I am sure Seattle would have recovered. Even Baghdad Bob is saying that the play should have been reviewed even though he won't admit to the later point. As bad as Seattle played (esp the first half), this was a potential game changing play and should have been looked at.

 

[dbsn2420]

If they review the play and rule it Rams ball, I'm still pissed because I feel the Hawks recovered the ball. If there is any confusion about the call whatsoever, THAT IS THE POINT OF HAVING THE FREAKIN REVIEW ABILITY in the fist place. The fact they didn't get a second look at it is inexcusable.

What the hell was the hurry? They spent 4.5 minutes looking at the Helfet touchdown.

I find it hard to believe Sherman was squarely over the ball with other guys on both teams covering, and they rule it Rams ball. If a Ram player recovered it, who was it? If a Rams player had it in undeniable possession at any time, who was it? The first Rams guy that tried let it squirt out.

It was the perfect example of how inadequate the refs can be while simultaneously directly influencing the outcome of the game!

 

[theincrediblesok]

Sherman was down there for a long time, remember when Wilson had the ball and was in the pile with Ware for a long time in the Broncos game. If a Rams player had it, he would of gotten up with it and hand it to a ref. Sherman was on the bottom of the pile and have two Rams players on top of him, if any of those two Rams player had the ball why didn't they just get up and hand it to the ref.

 

[WilsonMVP]

The call was the runner was down. If that was overturned then the refs should rule that Seahawks recovered as Sherman came out of the pile with the ball. The review would not have been in regards to ball recovery

They didnt call the runner down, they called the second Rams player who pounced on it down, even though the ball squirted out of his control when he jumped on it.

lol ya...the guy they ruled had it is the guy who couldnt get control of it and then as Sherman was laying on top of the ball he sticks his arm in the pile..and somehow he is the one who recovered?