We Won the Game and I'm Pissed Off

[scutterhawk]

I get your sarcasm that they aren’t the best, but trust me, I’ll take their word over a fan on a Seahawk forum.

So you agree with the call that Wilson was down on that sack where he never stopped moving forward, when they whistled it dead seconds after he escaped? How about the no call on him getting hit when sliding?

Yeah I agree those were awful calls. But I’m not going to act like the only bad plays went against us. Go to the Niners board, they have plenty of calls they are complaining about too. Refs just suck, they don’t call it one sided on purpose. I think some Seahawk fans honestly think that refs call games against us.

That wasn't the point. You stated the officials know more than the guy on his couch. Well there are plenty of guys on the couch and in the stadium that see how bad some of these calls are, frequently the officials throw a flag because they think a penalty had to have happened when it didn't. I don't think any guy on the couch would have whistled Wilson down on that fake sack and almost everyone would have called a foul when 3 guys hit him on a slide. The reviews in New York have made some mistakes as well, overturning calls with insufficient evidence or vis versa.

People on here generally don't act like they know more about the rulebook, they just recognize how bad the games are officiated and like to vent because it happens almost every game.

And ^ another guy that gets it ^ :vodka:

 

[HawkStrong]

So you agree with the call that Wilson was down on that sack where he never stopped moving forward, when they whistled it dead seconds after he escaped? How about the no call on him getting hit when sliding?

Yeah I agree those were awful calls. But I’m not going to act like the only bad plays went against us. Go to the Niners board, they have plenty of calls they are complaining about too. Refs just suck, they don’t call it one sided on purpose. I think some Seahawk fans honestly think that refs call games against us.

That wasn't the point. You stated the officials know more than the guy on his couch. Well there are plenty of guys on the couch and in the stadium that see how bad some of these calls are, frequently the officials throw a flag because they think a penalty had to have happened when it didn't. I don't think any guy on the couch would have whistled Wilson down on that fake sack and almost everyone would have called a foul when 3 guys hit him on a slide. The reviews in New York have made some mistakes as well, overturning calls with insufficient evidence or vis versa.

People on here generally don't act like they know more about the rulebook, they just recognize how bad the games are officiated and like to vent because it happens almost every game.

And ^ another guy that gets it ^ :vodka:

Notice you had no response to the picture that was posted clearly showing DK lost possession.

 

[scutterhawk]

Yeah I agree those were awful calls. But I’m not going to act like the only bad plays went against us. Go to the Niners board, they have plenty of calls they are complaining about too. Refs just suck, they don’t call it one sided on purpose. I think some Seahawk fans honestly think that refs call games against us.

That wasn't the point. You stated the officials know more than the guy on his couch. Well there are plenty of guys on the couch and in the stadium that see how bad some of these calls are, frequently the officials throw a flag because they think a penalty had to have happened when it didn't. I don't think any guy on the couch would have whistled Wilson down on that fake sack and almost everyone would have called a foul when 3 guys hit him on a slide. The reviews in New York have made some mistakes as well, overturning calls with insufficient evidence or vis versa.

People on here generally don't act like they know more about the rulebook, they just recognize how bad the games are officiated and like to vent because it happens almost every game.

And ^ another guy that gets it ^ :vodka:

Notice you had no response to the picture that was posted clearly showing DK lost possession.

Only thing I notice, is that you're still not paying attention, HE NEVER LOST CONTACT WITH THE BALL!!! LOOK at your photo...DO YOU NOT SEE where DK STILL HAS CONTACT with his forearm, then gets his hand back on the ball BEFORE going across the GOAL LINE?????
There was an ASSUMPTION by the Refs that because Tartt had two hands on the ball, that Metcalf had lost contact.

 

[HawkStrong]

That wasn't the point. You stated the officials know more than the guy on his couch. Well there are plenty of guys on the couch and in the stadium that see how bad some of these calls are, frequently the officials throw a flag because they think a penalty had to have happened when it didn't. I don't think any guy on the couch would have whistled Wilson down on that fake sack and almost everyone would have called a foul when 3 guys hit him on a slide. The reviews in New York have made some mistakes as well, overturning calls with insufficient evidence or vis versa.

People on here generally don't act like they know more about the rulebook, they just recognize how bad the games are officiated and like to vent because it happens almost every game.

And ^ another guy that gets it ^ :vodka:

Notice you had no response to the picture that was posted clearly showing DK lost possession.

Only thing I notice, is that you're still not paying attention, HE NEVER LOST CONTACT WITH THE BALL!!! LOOK at your photo...DO YOU NOT SEE where DK STILL HAS CONTACT with his forearm, then gets his hand back on the ball BEFORE going across the GOAL LINE?????
There was an ASSUMPTION by the Refs that because Tartt had two hands on the ball, that Metcalf had lost contact.

Please state in the rules where it says contact with the forearm denotes possession. Similar to the out of bounds player, you are arguing points that have no basis in reality.

 

[scutterhawk]

And ^ another guy that gets it ^ :vodka:

Notice you had no response to the picture that was posted clearly showing DK lost possession.

Only thing I notice, is that you're still not paying attention, HE NEVER LOST CONTACT WITH THE BALL!!! LOOK at your photo...DO YOU NOT SEE where DK STILL HAS CONTACT with his forearm, then gets his hand back on the ball BEFORE going across the GOAL LINE?????
There was an ASSUMPTION by the Refs that because Tartt had two hands on the ball, that Metcalf had lost contact.

Please state in the rules where it says contact with the forearm denotes possession. Similar to the out of bounds player, you are arguing points that have no basis in reality.

I'll ask you to post from the rules book that "denotes" otherwise, if you can show me this, I'll concede.

 

[rcaido]

Anybody know what was the ballboy's problem. During the play, it was called a 1st down and down at the 2 for the SEahawks. He wouldn't give the ball to the refs delaying the next play.

https://imgur.com/gallery/FykXrls?nid=885666211

 

[HawkStrong]

Notice you had no response to the picture that was posted clearly showing DK lost possession.

Only thing I notice, is that you're still not paying attention, HE NEVER LOST CONTACT WITH THE BALL!!! LOOK at your photo...DO YOU NOT SEE where DK STILL HAS CONTACT with his forearm, then gets his hand back on the ball BEFORE going across the GOAL LINE?????
There was an ASSUMPTION by the Refs that because Tartt had two hands on the ball, that Metcalf had lost contact.

Please state in the rules where it says contact with the forearm denotes possession. Similar to the out of bounds player, you are arguing points that have no basis in reality.

I'll ask you to post from the rules book that "denotes" otherwise, if you can show me this, I'll concede.

By the NFL rulebook, a fumble is defined as: "A fumble is any act, other than a pass or kick, which results in a loss of player possession."

Possession is defined as: "A player is in possession when he is in firm grip and control of the ball inbounds."

No where in the rules does it state merely having contact with the ball maintains possession. We can see in the video replay and still image that DK does not maintain a firm grip on the ball.

 

[HawkStrong]

Anybody know what was the ballboy's problem. During the play, it was called a 1st down and down at the 2 for the SEahawks. He wouldn't give the ball to the refs delaying the next play.

https://imgur.com/gallery/FykXrls?nid=885666211

He might have the K balls? Also could have been due to the confusion as to which team has possession? Each team uses their own set of balls.

 

[rcaido]

Anybody know what was the ballboy's problem. During the play, it was called a 1st down and down at the 2 for the SEahawks. He wouldn't give the ball to the refs delaying the next play.

https://imgur.com/gallery/FykXrls?nid=885666211

He might have the K balls? Also could have been due to the confusion as to which team has possession? Each team uses their own set of balls.

I just dont understand how a ballboy would deny two refs screaming for the football. It was just odd. Can you imagine if it was only a few second left of play and the offense was trying to hurry up.

 

[HawkStrong]

Anybody know what was the ballboy's problem. During the play, it was called a 1st down and down at the 2 for the SEahawks. He wouldn't give the ball to the refs delaying the next play.

https://imgur.com/gallery/FykXrls?nid=885666211

He might have the K balls? Also could have been due to the confusion as to which team has possession? Each team uses their own set of balls.

I just dont understand how a ballboy would deny two refs screaming for the football. It was just odd. Can you imagine if it was only a few second left of play and the offense was trying to hurry up.

That is SF's sideline, there was obviously confusion as to who had possession at that point. Ref was signalling the runner was down, so ball boy probably realized he shouldn't give him the ball until it was signalled SF ball. Just a guess, no way to know from the video.

 

[HawkStrong]

Notice you had no response to the picture that was posted clearly showing DK lost possession.

Only thing I notice, is that you're still not paying attention, HE NEVER LOST CONTACT WITH THE BALL!!! LOOK at your photo...DO YOU NOT SEE where DK STILL HAS CONTACT with his forearm, then gets his hand back on the ball BEFORE going across the GOAL LINE?????
There was an ASSUMPTION by the Refs that because Tartt had two hands on the ball, that Metcalf had lost contact.

Please state in the rules where it says contact with the forearm denotes possession. Similar to the out of bounds player, you are arguing points that have no basis in reality.

I'll ask you to post from the rules book that "denotes" otherwise, if you can show me this, I'll concede.

No response?

 

[Hockey Guy]

Notice you had no response to the picture that was posted clearly showing DK lost possession.

Only thing I notice, is that you're still not paying attention, HE NEVER LOST CONTACT WITH THE BALL!!! LOOK at your photo...DO YOU NOT SEE where DK STILL HAS CONTACT with his forearm, then gets his hand back on the ball BEFORE going across the GOAL LINE?????
There was an ASSUMPTION by the Refs that because Tartt had two hands on the ball, that Metcalf had lost contact.

Please state in the rules where it says contact with the forearm denotes possession. Similar to the out of bounds player, you are arguing points that have no basis in reality.

I'll ask you to post from the rules book that "denotes" otherwise, if you can show me this, I'll concede.

What color is the sky in your world?

 

[scutterhawk]

Only thing I notice, is that you're still not paying attention, HE NEVER LOST CONTACT WITH THE BALL!!! LOOK at your photo...DO YOU NOT SEE where DK STILL HAS CONTACT with his forearm, then gets his hand back on the ball BEFORE going across the GOAL LINE?????
There was an ASSUMPTION by the Refs that because Tartt had two hands on the ball, that Metcalf had lost contact.

Please state in the rules where it says contact with the forearm denotes possession. Similar to the out of bounds player, you are arguing points that have no basis in reality.

I'll ask you to post from the rules book that "denotes" otherwise, if you can show me this, I'll concede.

No response?

I was ready to just let you blather, but, it's obvious that you can't just leave shit alone, & I don't do well with 'Cocky. It's entirely possible to lose grasp on the ball, and re establish JUST AS DK DID, and because neither player was down, the ball was still live...….There's an old phrase you should learn...."Till Hell Freezes Over"

 

[scutterhawk]

Only thing I notice, is that you're still not paying attention, HE NEVER LOST CONTACT WITH THE BALL!!! LOOK at your photo...DO YOU NOT SEE where DK STILL HAS CONTACT with his forearm, then gets his hand back on the ball BEFORE going across the GOAL LINE?????
There was an ASSUMPTION by the Refs that because Tartt had two hands on the ball, that Metcalf had lost contact.

Please state in the rules where it says contact with the forearm denotes possession. Similar to the out of bounds player, you are arguing points that have no basis in reality.

I'll ask you to post from the rules book that "denotes" otherwise, if you can show me this, I'll concede.

What color is the sky in your world?

Are you HawkStrong's Lap Dog? :lol:

 

[Hockey Guy]

Please state in the rules where it says contact with the forearm denotes possession. Similar to the out of bounds player, you are arguing points that have no basis in reality.

I'll ask you to post from the rules book that "denotes" otherwise, if you can show me this, I'll concede.

No response?

I was ready to just let you blather, but, it's obvious that you can't just leave $h!t alone, & I don't do well with 'Cocky. It's entirely possible to lose grasp on the ball, and re establish JUST AS DK DID, and because neither player was down, the ball was still live...….There's an old phrase you should learn...."Till Hell Freezes Over"

I take it you've just been trolling because there's no way this could be a serious response.

 

[jammerhawk]

No I think the thread should remain open here, there is a fair discussion ongoing here and the rules issue and lame refereeing is in fact Seahawks related b/c the Hawks are penalized a lot for subjective rule interpretations.

 

[scutterhawk]

I'll ask you to post from the rules book that "denotes" otherwise, if you can show me this, I'll concede.

No response?

I was ready to just let you blather, but, it's obvious that you can't just leave $h!t alone, & I don't do well with 'Cocky. It's entirely possible to lose grasp on the ball, and re establish JUST AS DK DID, and because neither player was down, the ball was still live...….There's an old phrase you should learn...."Till Hell Freezes Over"

I take it you've just been trolling because there's no way this could be a serious response.

It's too late for either you or Hawkstrong to apologize, though I've been known to accept bribes.
Look, if you don't like my opinion on this matter, you & HawkStrong are welcome to stick with your own.

 

[HawkStrong]

No response?

I was ready to just let you blather, but, it's obvious that you can't just leave $h!t alone, & I don't do well with 'Cocky. It's entirely possible to lose grasp on the ball, and re establish JUST AS DK DID, and because neither player was down, the ball was still live...….There's an old phrase you should learn...."Till Hell Freezes Over"

I take it you've just been trolling because there's no way this could be a serious response.

It's too late for either you or Hawkstrong to apologize, though I've been known to accept bribes.
Look, if you don't like my opinion on this matter, you & HawkStrong are welcome to stick with your own.

I am sticking with the facts. You are sticking with an opinion not based in reality. Cheers.

 

[scutterhawk]

I was ready to just let you blather, but, it's obvious that you can't just leave $h!t alone, & I don't do well with 'Cocky. It's entirely possible to lose grasp on the ball, and re establish JUST AS DK DID, and because neither player was down, the ball was still live...….There's an old phrase you should learn...."Till Hell Freezes Over"

I take it you've just been trolling because there's no way this could be a serious response.

It's too late for either you or Hawkstrong to apologize, though I've been known to accept bribes.
Look, if you don't like my opinion on this matter, you & HawkStrong are welcome to stick with your own.

I am sticking with the facts. You are sticking with an opinion not based in reality. Cheers.

There were SEVERAL calls that were wrong >FACTUALLY<...I've seen Bang-Bang plays, where the calls went CONTRARY to the NFL Rules, and games lost because of interpretational error, and so have you.
"FACT" -- > That play in particular (open to interpretation), could have also gone the other way.

 

[HawkStrong]

I take it you've just been trolling because there's no way this could be a serious response.

It's too late for either you or Hawkstrong to apologize, though I've been known to accept bribes.
Look, if you don't like my opinion on this matter, you & HawkStrong are welcome to stick with your own.

I am sticking with the facts. You are sticking with an opinion not based in reality. Cheers.

There were SEVERAL calls that were wrong >FACTUALLY<...I've seen Bang-Bang plays, where the calls went CONTRARY to the NFL Rules, and games lost because of interpretational error, and so have you.
"FACT" -- > That play in particular (open to interpretation), could have also gone the other way.

I don't disagree with what you are saying in principle. We have more than enough evidence to see this was ruled correctly, even though you don't like it. If the teams were reversed, I am sure you would it that way.