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  • While they are going to for sure trade out of the 1st pick I feel like they are going to go WR with the first pick they use.

    Their targets:
    N'Keal Harry
    D.K. Metcalf
    Terry McLaurin
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  • I like the list and id throw Hakeem Butler from Iowa St. on there too. Not a great route runner but also not a guy that needs to be open to be thrown the ball. Peronally i hope they dont go WR because we dont seem to be a team that use a big body guy the way we need to but i love the idea of being able to just throw a jump ball to someone agaisnt an all out blitz they we tend to struggle with.
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  • ImTheScientist wrote:While they are going to for sure trade out of the 1st pick I feel like they are going to go WR with the first pick they use.

    Their targets:
    N'Keal Harry
    D.K. Metcalf
    Terry McLaurin


    Very possible. Not sure Harry is one of the ones we'll target. Other two may be on radar. Seattle has demonstrated that they covet and draft players that dominate their teams' targets. Neither Metcalf or McLaurin satisfy that criteria.

    It would be a departure from previous selections to take one of these.

    EDIT:

    I would also add, that I think it's equally likely we take a TE as receiver. This class is extremely good. The third straight solid/good class in a row. But much of that is due to pretty much all of the top quality underclassmen declaring this year. Next year's class looks extraordinarily depleted. Seattle isn't in dire need this year. But will be next year. Adding a quality TE this year not only solves succeeding Vannett in 2020, but also has the secondary benefit of the possibility of shedding Ed Dickson's contract in 2019.

    Depends what they want of the position. Dissly should really not be counted on to return to his pre-injury self this season. I expect he'll end up on the PUP and not be back until October/November. And there's the real possibility his ability will never recover to the same level.

    Draft talent, roster value and injury expectation elevates this position group for us.
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  • ImTheScientist wrote:While they are going to for sure trade out of the 1st pick I feel like they are going to go WR with the first pick they use.

    Their targets:
    N'Keal Harry
    D.K. Metcalf
    Terry McLaurin


    I like the WR option but I think we are getting a little ahead of ourselves here.

    Much is going to depend on who we can sign this year and how players do at the combine.
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  • I'd throw Colorado St. WR Preston Williams in the mix.
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  • This class is loaded with potential alpha X receivers and I hope Seattle capitalizes. The one WR that I LOVED, Collin Johnson, is unfortunately staying at Texas for his senior season. I really like Metcalf and Harmon as guys who could still be on the board when the Hawks are on the clock in the first round. However, out of all the WRs, the one that I want, no matter what, is Jazz Ferguson out of little Northwestern State. It's still early, but he's projecting as a late second or early third day pick. Remember that name.
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  • Doubtful they stay in first round and draft a WR. I see them going after an edge/interior rusher.
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  • Thepeelsessions wrote:This class is loaded with potential alpha X receivers and I hope Seattle capitalizes. The one WR that I LOVED, Collin Johnson, is unfortunately staying at Texas for his senior season. I really like Metcalf and Harmon as guys who could still be on the board when the Hawks are on the clock in the first round. However, out of all the WRs, the one that I want, no matter what, is Jazz Ferguson out of little Northwestern State. It's still early, but he's projecting as a late second or early third day pick. Remember that name.

    Metcalf just killed the combine. No way Seattle has a chance at him. He'll now go top 5, first WR taken.
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  • TheLegendOfBoom wrote:
    Thepeelsessions wrote:This class is loaded with potential alpha X receivers and I hope Seattle capitalizes. The one WR that I LOVED, Collin Johnson, is unfortunately staying at Texas for his senior season. I really like Metcalf and Harmon as guys who could still be on the board when the Hawks are on the clock in the first round. However, out of all the WRs, the one that I want, no matter what, is Jazz Ferguson out of little Northwestern State. It's still early, but he's projecting as a late second or early third day pick. Remember that name.

    Metcalf just killed the combine. No way Seattle has a chance at him. He'll now go top 5, first WR taken.
    He didn't just kill it, he obliterated it. That might be one of the most dominating, if not the most dominant, combine performance by a WR ever. Based on the "scouting" I've done on him for dynasty fantasy football purposes and now this, he could easily be a historic WR in this league. Looking at the draft order, I can easily see the Jets taking him if he's there at 3. If they want Darnold to be successful, they need to make an effort to give him playmakers. And if they pass on him, Oakland would foolish to pass on him too. They have absolutely no promising youth at the skill positions. None. With 3 picks in the first this year, Metcalf would be a great investment for them.
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  • Thepeelsessions wrote:
    TheLegendOfBoom wrote:
    Thepeelsessions wrote:This class is loaded with potential alpha X receivers and I hope Seattle capitalizes. The one WR that I LOVED, Collin Johnson, is unfortunately staying at Texas for his senior season. I really like Metcalf and Harmon as guys who could still be on the board when the Hawks are on the clock in the first round. However, out of all the WRs, the one that I want, no matter what, is Jazz Ferguson out of little Northwestern State. It's still early, but he's projecting as a late second or early third day pick. Remember that name.

    Metcalf just killed the combine. No way Seattle has a chance at him. He'll now go top 5, first WR taken.
    He didn't just kill it, he obliterated it. That might be one of the most dominating, if not the most dominant, combine performance by a WR ever. Based on the "scouting" I've done on him for dynasty fantasy football purposes and now this, he could easily be a historic WR in this league. Looking at the draft order, I can easily see the Jets taking him if he's there at 3. If they want Darnold to be successful, they need to make an effort to give him playmakers. And if they pass on him, Oakland would foolish to pass on him too. They have absolutely no promising youth at the skill positions. None. With 3 picks in the first this year, Metcalf would be a great investment for them.

    Indeed! Couldn't have said it better myself!

    What really sucks is, Ole Miss uses him exactly how the Pete Carroll offense is.

    Run, run some more and then throw it 30 or 40 yards down the sidelines.

    Metcalf fits the Seahawks offense perfectly!

    Almost no difference in Ole Miss offense and the Seattle offensive play calling.

    I'm always a little jealous of teams with top 5 picks in the draft but then Seattle goes to the playoffs and it's, "I don't care about top 5 picks, we're in playoffs and anything can happen!"
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  • Pump the breaks a little on Metcalf - he posted really really bad numbers in the shuttle/change of direction drills.

    To give you an idea of how bad, he was significantly worse than Drew Sample in both the 3 cone and 20 yard shuttle.

    Unless he just wasn't trying his hardest at that point, those quickness numbers are pretty concerning.

    Editing to add that Andre Dillard the 315lb LT from WSU had a better 20 yard shuttle.
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  • drrew wrote:Pump the breaks a little on Metcalf - he posted really really bad numbers in the shuttle/change of direction drills.

    To give you an idea of how bad, he was significantly worse than Drew Sample in both the 3 cone and 20 yard shuttle.

    Unless he just wasn't trying his hardest at that point, those quickness numbers are pretty concerning.

    Editing to add that Andre Dillard the 315lb LT from WSU had a better 20 yard shuttle.

    If the Niners end up picking this guy, second overall, I hope he doesn't end up abusing our secondary.
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  • drrew wrote:Pump the breaks a little on Metcalf - he posted really really bad numbers in the shuttle/change of direction drills.

    To give you an idea of how bad, he was significantly worse than Drew Sample in both the 3 cone and 20 yard shuttle.

    Unless he just wasn't trying his hardest at that point, those quickness numbers are pretty concerning.

    Editing to add that Andre Dillard the 315lb LT from WSU had a better 20 yard shuttle.

    DeAndre Hopkins had the exact same 20 yard shuttle as Metcalf. Metcalf has a certain game he plays, and he is very good at it.
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  • 5_Golden_Rings wrote:DeAndre Hopkins had the exact same 20 yard shuttle as Metcalf. Metcalf has a certain game he plays, and he is very good at it.


    Hopkins also had more yards, catches, and touchdowns in his final collegiate season than Metcalf had in his entire college career.

    Hopkins was incredibly polished as a WR with some athleticism concerns. That doesn't compare to Metcalf's profile at all.
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  • drrew wrote:
    5_Golden_Rings wrote:DeAndre Hopkins had the exact same 20 yard shuttle as Metcalf. Metcalf has a certain game he plays, and he is very good at it.


    Hopkins also had more yards, catches, and touchdowns in his final collegiate season than Metcalf had in his entire college career.

    Hopkins was incredibly polished as a WR with some athleticism concerns. That doesn't compare to Metcalf's profile at all.

    Metcalf is averaging a touchdown every five receptions over his college career, and that number was even better his senior year. He has averaged 18.3 yards per reception over his college career and was averaging over 20 yards per reception his senior year. Both are better per reception than Hopkins, who averaged 14.7 yards per reception and a touchdown every 7.6 receptions.

    Metcalf has just had injury history. That is, of course, a pretty big concern. Two of his three years ended with a season ending injury. But his per reception totals are staggering.


    Now, you might say I'm just looking at statistics, like you were doing (except I'm looking on a per reception average rather than ignoring the fact that Metcalf spent a lot of time injured). But in truth I was on this bandwagon before I looked at his numbers because he passes the eye test. Some of the things he can do are elite. He needs work, and he may only be a niche player, but he can do things most men cannot. He looks clearly better than Courtland Sutton or Corey Davis, or really any receiver drafted in the last couple of years to me.
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  • I've read that Metcalf also had a lot of drops. Any Ole Miss fans here that can speak to that.
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  • Hawks want to trade down and I don’t think Metcalf is an option but the WR and TE classes are deep this year so I think they pick a pass catcher later. Preston Williams has off field concerns but he profiles similar to Metcalf. Another WR who blew up the combine was Miles Boykin from Notre Dame. He’s 6’3” 220 with speed and explosion near Metcalf and much better agility, only in bench was Metcalf significantly better. I think they could go DL with their first pick and still get a really nice pass catcher with the second pick.

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  • Metcalf's tape is subpar. He isnt a first rounder. I'm all over Harry, but think he goes before us. The other guy has the best tape. McLaurin? Can't remember anymore. Man, they all ran well.
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  • WR are suppose to run well, it's getting open catching in traffic or catching at all that is most of the draft picks issues.
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  • naholmes wrote:Hawks want to trade down and I don’t think Metcalf is an option but the WR and TE classes are deep this year so I think they pick a pass catcher later. Preston Williams has off field concerns but he profiles similar to Metcalf. Another WR who blew up the combine was Miles Boykin from Notre Dame. He’s 6’3” 220 with speed and explosion near Metcalf and much better agility, only in bench was Metcalf significantly better. I think they could go DL with their first pick and still get a really nice pass catcher with the second pick.


    I liked Boykin a lot ..
    He looked like a man among boys out there from what I saw..
    I worry he's maybe more like Floyd was but without baggage.
    I wouldn't be upset if Hawks picked him..
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  • If your going big WR then taking one early when everyone else is going somewhere else is your best chance to hit on one, they are just one of those positions and body types that after the first seem to be more bust then hit.

    We have also shown we can find edge rushers and DT's at a lot of draft levels as well as Free Agency. Once a big Body WR proves himself you need to start buying banks to hold their money for them.
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  • TheLegendOfBoom wrote:
    Thepeelsessions wrote:This class is loaded with potential alpha X receivers and I hope Seattle capitalizes. The one WR that I LOVED, Collin Johnson, is unfortunately staying at Texas for his senior season. I really like Metcalf and Harmon as guys who could still be on the board when the Hawks are on the clock in the first round. However, out of all the WRs, the one that I want, no matter what, is Jazz Ferguson out of little Northwestern State. It's still early, but he's projecting as a late second or early third day pick. Remember that name.

    Metcalf just killed the combine. No way Seattle has a chance at him. He'll now go top 5, first WR taken.


    His 3 cone and shuttle were both worse then what Brady posted at the combine. So he's fast in a strait line, but not so much in changing direction.
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  • chris98251 wrote:If your going big WR then taking one early when everyone else is going somewhere else is your best chance to hit on one, they are just one of those positions and body types that after the first seem to be more bust then hit.

    We have also shown we can find edge rushers and DT's at a lot of draft levels as well as Free Agency. Once a big Body WR proves himself you need to start buying banks to hold their money for them.

    Big WR is a strength of this draft on par with DL. Here are a few of my favorites coming in at 6’2” and taller. A bunch of these guys will be available in round 2 but maybe not much selection at pick 21 in round 3. Ideally we could trade back from 21 for 2 second rounders.

    DK Metcalf
    NKeal Harry
    Hakeem Butler
    Kelvin Harmon
    Miles Boykin
    Preston Williams
    Anthony Johnson
    Emmanuel Hall
    Jazz Ferguson
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    Keelan Doss
    Antoine Wesley
    David Sills
    JJ Arcega-Whiteside

    TE is also crazy deep this year...
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  • This draft is deep in WRs. I see the Hawks selecting an edge @21 or trading down and selecting a DL. There will be receivers available after the first two rounds. This year's DL class is spectacular.
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  • Thepeelsessions wrote:This class is loaded with potential alpha X receivers and I hope Seattle capitalizes. The one WR that I LOVED, Collin Johnson, is unfortunately staying at Texas for his senior season. I really like Metcalf and Harmon as guys who could still be on the board when the Hawks are on the clock in the first round. However, out of all the WRs, the one that I want, no matter what, is Jazz Ferguson out of little Northwestern State. It's still early, but he's projecting as a late second or early third day pick. Remember that name.


    And while we're at it, let's grab Ferguson's QB. DIMES!

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  • ImTheScientist wrote:While they are going to for sure trade out of the 1st pick I feel like they are going to go WR with the first pick they use.

    Their targets:
    N'Keal Harry
    D.K. Metcalf
    Terry McLaurin


    This post aged well. Metcalf and McLaurin are stars.
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  • ImTheScientist wrote:
    ImTheScientist wrote:While they are going to for sure trade out of the 1st pick I feel like they are going to go WR with the first pick they use.

    Their targets:
    N'Keal Harry
    D.K. Metcalf
    Terry McLaurin


    This post aged well. Metcalf and McLaurin are stars.

    Certainly has aged better than your P-Rich For Life proclamation
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  • Must be a slow day at the Mice exercise lab for him to bump this and try to pump out his chest.
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