Seahawks Early Favorites to Win Superbowl 50

kidhawk · Feb 2, 2015

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Seahawks: 5/1

Patriots: 7/1

Packers: 8/1

Broncos: 10/1

Cowboys: 14/1

Colts: 14/1

Eagles: 20/1

49ers: 20/1

Edit Title from "L" to "50"

ivotuk · Feb 2, 2015

I expect us to go to our 3rd in a row and win it. THEN we have our dynasty.

Cyrus12 · Feb 2, 2015

I don't much stock into these odds right after a game... a LOT can happen throughout the course of the off season, pre and reg season. This just tells me that we still have a great team.

Seanhawk · Feb 2, 2015

Yippee.

Decimation · Feb 2, 2015

Winning Super Bowl 50 would make these feelings much better honestly. Here's to hoping our team has the adversity and resilience to overcome this loss and win the Super Bowl next year!

kidhawk · Feb 2, 2015

Cyrus12":36nuif59 said:
I don't much stock into these odds right after a game... a LOT can happen throughout the course of the off season, pre and reg season. This just tells me that we still have a great team.

The odds are ever changing, but the fact that Vegas set that means that we are still considered one of the best in the NFL and that is something that can help get me through this debacle. I knew we still had a shot after super bowl XL, but I also knew that window was rapidly closing. The window of this team is currently wide open, and that can heal what ails us all.

TwistedHusky · Feb 2, 2015

We stand to lose one of the best DCs we have had in a while.

We also stand to get stuck again with one of the worst OCs we have had in a while.

We have key players we still have to sign, many of whom we will lose.

Getting to THIS SB required winning 11 of 12 in a stretch and involved the ability to play something like 3 teams with hurt QBs. It also involved one of the biggest and most amazing comebacks ever, just to get to the SB.

That was a great deal of opportunities that the Seahawks took advantage to get there. Not sure just waltzing back to the SB is going to be so simple, but yes it will still be a very good team.

And if we do not have Lynch next year, we can pretty much hang up any SB shot, so hopefully they realize and keep him.

12thManHawkFan · Feb 2, 2015

Here's to a 3-turn fellas!

HomerJHawk · Feb 2, 2015

Well, at least we got that going for us.

pmedic920 · Feb 2, 2015

MizzouHawkGal · Feb 2, 2015

ivotuk":2itpfkcl said:
I expect us to go to our 3rd in a row and win it. THEN we have our dynasty.

You do know that New England and Dallas did exactly that so you better believe it can be done. The Seahawks are going to be on a mission in 2015.

wizard1183 · Feb 2, 2015

Sorry, but I don think the Hawks will make the playoffs. Here's proof that the odds of them going back? Are VERY SLIM:

Taken from "How teams performed after appearing in the SB"
Summary of the following season of Super Bowl Losers:

Won Super Bowl - 2 (4.3%)
Lost Super Bowl - 5 (10.6%)
Lost Conference Final - 4 (8.5%)
Lost Divisional Game - 15 (31.9%)
Lost Wild Card - 7 (14.9%)
Missed Playoffs - 14 (29.8%)
Average Winning % - 0.643 (approx. 10.25 games won)
Super Bowl Winners vs. Losers

Looking at Super Bowl Winners vs. Losers, we don't see a drastic difference in performance in the following season with Super Bowl losers making the playoffs in the following season at a rate of 33 of 47 while Super Bowl Winners have a nearly identical return rate of 32 of 47. Super Bowl winners have a slightly better winning regular season percentage of 0.667 vs. 0.643 of losers, which is equivalent to half a game.

The biggest difference appears where it matters most, in the Super Bowl itself where Super Bowl winners have ended up back in the big game 11 times and won it 8 times while Super Bowl losers have only ended back in the game 7 times winning only 2.

It takes a very good team to get to the Super Bowl and win or lose this tends to carry over to the next season. However, there is something to winning it all in terms of winning it again the next season vs. teams that came up short - this could be to psychological factors or just knowing what it takes to win it all.

Updated: to reflect the 2013-14 NFL season in which the Baltimore Ravens failed to make the playoffs and the San Francisco 49ers lost in the NFC Championship.

marko358 · Feb 2, 2015

^^^ What does what that have to do with this particular team? No correlation.

wizard1183 · Feb 2, 2015

marko358":12fslw0v said:
^^^ What does what that have to do with this particular team? No correlation.

Particular team? Lol This is ANY team. The Seahawks are PART of the statistics buddy. They're certainly not immune to it. :mrgreen: Their chances of actually winning IF they go back are what? 2-4% chance? The Seahawks are not that 2-4%.

kidhawk · Feb 2, 2015

wizard1183":27jexu67 said:
Sorry, but I don think the Hawks will make the playoffs. Here's proof that the odds of them going back? Are VERY SLIM:

Taken from "How teams performed after appearing in the SB"
Summary of the following season of Super Bowl Losers:

Won Super Bowl - 2 (4.3%)
Lost Super Bowl - 5 (10.6%)
Lost Conference Final - 4 (8.5%)
Lost Divisional Game - 15 (31.9%)
Lost Wild Card - 7 (14.9%)
Missed Playoffs - 14 (29.8%)
Average Winning % - 0.643 (approx. 10.25 games won)
Super Bowl Winners vs. Losers

Looking at Super Bowl Winners vs. Losers, we don't see a drastic difference in performance in the following season with Super Bowl losers making the playoffs in the following season at a rate of 33 of 47 while Super Bowl Winners have a nearly identical return rate of 32 of 47. Super Bowl winners have a slightly better winning regular season percentage of 0.667 vs. 0.643 of losers, which is equivalent to half a game.

The biggest difference appears where it matters most, in the Super Bowl itself where Super Bowl winners have ended up back in the big game 11 times and won it 8 times while Super Bowl losers have only ended back in the game 7 times winning only 2.

It takes a very good team to get to the Super Bowl and win or lose this tends to carry over to the next season. However, there is something to winning it all in terms of winning it again the next season vs. teams that came up short - this could be to psychological factors or just knowing what it takes to win it all.

Updated: to reflect the 2013-14 NFL season in which the Baltimore Ravens failed to make the playoffs and the San Francisco 49ers lost in the NFC Championship.

How many of those stats came from teams who already went twice and are 1-1 in the previous two seasons?

wizard1183 · Feb 2, 2015

kidhawk":1rxa5q8c said:
wizard1183":1rxa5q8c said:

Sorry, but I don think the Hawks will make the playoffs. Here's proof that the odds of them going back? Are VERY SLIM:

Taken from "How teams performed after appearing in the SB"
Summary of the following season of Super Bowl Losers:

Won Super Bowl - 2 (4.3%)
Lost Super Bowl - 5 (10.6%)
Lost Conference Final - 4 (8.5%)
Lost Divisional Game - 15 (31.9%)
Lost Wild Card - 7 (14.9%)
Missed Playoffs - 14 (29.8%)
Average Winning % - 0.643 (approx. 10.25 games won)
Super Bowl Winners vs. Losers

Looking at Super Bowl Winners vs. Losers, we don't see a drastic difference in performance in the following season with Super Bowl losers making the playoffs in the following season at a rate of 33 of 47 while Super Bowl Winners have a nearly identical return rate of 32 of 47. Super Bowl winners have a slightly better winning regular season percentage of 0.667 vs. 0.643 of losers, which is equivalent to half a game.

The biggest difference appears where it matters most, in the Super Bowl itself where Super Bowl winners have ended up back in the big game 11 times and won it 8 times while Super Bowl losers have only ended back in the game 7 times winning only 2.

It takes a very good team to get to the Super Bowl and win or lose this tends to carry over to the next season. However, there is something to winning it all in terms of winning it again the next season vs. teams that came up short - this could be to psychological factors or just knowing what it takes to win it all.

Updated: to reflect the 2013-14 NFL season in which the Baltimore Ravens failed to make the playoffs and the San Francisco 49ers lost in the NFC Championship.

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How many of those stats came from teams who already went twice and are 1-1 in the previous two seasons?

I dont know how to calculate the odds, but in 1978 Cowgirls went, won, lost the next, never showed back up until '93. 1983 Skins won, lost, never showed back up until 88 and won. 97 GB wins, loses, doesn't show back up until 2010. So the odds are stacked HEAVILY against Seahawks to repeat in 2016. Not saying they won't ever go back. But 2016? Forget it.

Seafan · Feb 2, 2015

It's Super Bowl 50. They aren't calling it Super Bowl L.

Kennedyin92 · Feb 2, 2015

wizard1183":2binbsu1 said:
kidhawk":2binbsu1 said:

wizard1183":2binbsu1 said:

Sorry, but I don think the Hawks will make the playoffs. Here's proof that the odds of them going back? Are VERY SLIM:

Taken from "How teams performed after appearing in the SB"
Summary of the following season of Super Bowl Losers:

Won Super Bowl - 2 (4.3%)
Lost Super Bowl - 5 (10.6%)
Lost Conference Final - 4 (8.5%)
Lost Divisional Game - 15 (31.9%)
Lost Wild Card - 7 (14.9%)
Missed Playoffs - 14 (29.8%)
Average Winning % - 0.643 (approx. 10.25 games won)
Super Bowl Winners vs. Losers

Looking at Super Bowl Winners vs. Losers, we don't see a drastic difference in performance in the following season with Super Bowl losers making the playoffs in the following season at a rate of 33 of 47 while Super Bowl Winners have a nearly identical return rate of 32 of 47. Super Bowl winners have a slightly better winning regular season percentage of 0.667 vs. 0.643 of losers, which is equivalent to half a game.

The biggest difference appears where it matters most, in the Super Bowl itself where Super Bowl winners have ended up back in the big game 11 times and won it 8 times while Super Bowl losers have only ended back in the game 7 times winning only 2.

It takes a very good team to get to the Super Bowl and win or lose this tends to carry over to the next season. However, there is something to winning it all in terms of winning it again the next season vs. teams that came up short - this could be to psychological factors or just knowing what it takes to win it all.

Updated: to reflect the 2013-14 NFL season in which the Baltimore Ravens failed to make the playoffs and the San Francisco 49ers lost in the NFC Championship.

Click to expand...

How many of those stats came from teams who already went twice and are 1-1 in the previous two seasons?

Click to expand...

I dont know how to calculate the odds, but in 1978 Cowgirls went, won, lost the next, never showed back up until '93. 1983 Skins won, lost, never showed back up until 88 and won. 97 GB wins, loses, doesn't show back up until 2010. So the odds are stacked HEAVILY against Seahawks to repeat in 2016. Not saying they won't ever go back. But 2016? Forget it.

You're right. They probably shouldn't even bother playing next season.

ukeface:

Hasselbeck · Feb 2, 2015

Seafan":3ifzjril said:
It's Super Bowl 50. They aren't calling it Super Bowl L.

They can't call it Super Bowl L because the 49ers had that a couple years ago.

Ah that felt good.

kidhawk · Feb 2, 2015

wizard1183":1ahdzlp5 said:
I dont know how to calculate the odds, but in 1978 Cowgirls went, won, lost the next, never showed back up until '93. 1983 Skins won, lost, never showed back up until 88 and won. 97 GB wins, loses, doesn't show back up until 2010. So the odds are stacked HEAVILY against Seahawks to repeat in 2016. Not saying they won't ever go back. But 2016? Forget it.

Odds are never favorable for any team to go to the super bowl Even as favorites it's 5/1 for us to make it.

a few things we have over other teams in history is we have one of the youngest teams ever to win a super bowl (I believe we're 2nd to the 72 dolphins by a matter of days), and the salary cap has been climbing rapidly, allowing us to keep our core players. History won't dictate what happens this season, our players and coaches will. We have the talent if they can keep the proper mindset, we get back to the playoffs and from there, anything can happen.

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