Salary Cap to be $143.28 million

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Here is a look at our cap situation from overthecap.com. They were using $143 million in their figures, so it should give everyone a pretty good idea.

[urltargetblank]http://overthecap.com/seahawks-2015-salary-cap-outlook/[/urltargetblank]
 
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It appears that every team but the rams have carried over their excess cap money from last season. No surprise that we are rolling over our money, but figured I'd add that information here for those following it.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/GeorgeAtallah/status/572445953506086914[/tweet]
 

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Good, well written article. Information is solid, analysis basic but also solid. Thats for the link.

Liked the graphs especially, showing how basically we afford our defense by creating a cost effective offense.
 

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kidhawk":3emknccc said:
It appears that every team but the rams have carried over their excess cap money from last season. No surprise that we are rolling over our money, but figured I'd add that information here for those following it.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/GeorgeAtallah/status/572445953506086914[/tweet]
Genuinly curious here. Is there a logical reason NOT to carry over cap room?
 

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sutz":2mzmlvqw said:
kidhawk":2mzmlvqw said:
It appears that every team but the rams have carried over their excess cap money from last season. No surprise that we are rolling over our money, but figured I'd add that information here for those following it.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/GeorgeAtallah/status/572445953506086914[/tweet]
Genuinly curious here. Is there a logical reason NOT to carry over cap room?

Moving vans are expensive.
 

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sutz":6evqsd1g said:
kidhawk":6evqsd1g said:
It appears that every team but the rams have carried over their excess cap money from last season. No surprise that we are rolling over our money, but figured I'd add that information here for those following it.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/GeorgeAtallah/status/572445953506086914[/tweet]
Genuinly curious here. Is there a logical reason NOT to carry over cap room?
There are. Theoretically, an owner could already be far below the cap and simply not want to spend the money.
 

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Scottemojo":12ky6y8o said:
sutz":12ky6y8o said:
kidhawk":12ky6y8o said:
It appears that every team but the rams have carried over their excess cap money from last season. No surprise that we are rolling over our money, but figured I'd add that information here for those following it.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/GeorgeAtallah/status/572445953506086914[/tweet]
Genuinly curious here. Is there a logical reason NOT to carry over cap room?
There are. Theoretically, an owner could already be far below the cap and simply not want to spend the money.

Good point, I didn't think of that. The Raiders and Jags are going to have to spend some money to reach the cap floor. If they were unable to sign players to get well over that floor, they wouldn't want to have carryover cap room also dragging them down.
 

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Yeah, as I was typing I remembered that one of the things the new CBA did was raise the minimum required to spend on player salaries, so I guess that would make the cheaper owners take that route. So I guess it makes business sense, but it doesn't seem like it would help a team win anything.
 

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sutz":1nhoz40m said:
Yeah, as I was typing I remembered that one of the things the new CBA did was raise the minimum required to spend on player salaries, so I guess that would make the cheaper owners take that route. So I guess it makes business sense, but it doesn't seem like it would help a team win anything.

The the teams in that situation, like the Raiders and Jags, didn't go that route anyway.
 

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Like the charts. So the Hawks spend less than the league average on every offensive position except RB. Obvious why the QB is low and that it'll change. Also far below on WR. Unsure if that's in part due to Harvin gone.
 

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lobohawk":3liv7d6u said:
Like the charts. So the Hawks spend less than the league average on every offensive position except RB. Obvious why the QB is low and that it'll change. Also far below on WR. Unsure if that's in part due to Harvin gone.

I think it is just because of Harvin. With his contract, they had to be at least average.
 

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kidhawk":3dc69cse said:
It appears that every team but the rams have carried over their excess cap money from last season. No surprise that we are rolling over our money, but figured I'd add that information here for those following it.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/GeorgeAtallah/status/572445953506086914[/tweet]

Anybody have a link that shows exactly how much the Hawks will be rolling over?

Edit: quick google answered my own question - https://www.nflpa.com/news/all-news/201 ... -positions
 

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RobBaker7714409":3ojfdlt6 said:
kidhawk":3ojfdlt6 said:
It appears that every team but the rams have carried over their excess cap money from last season. No surprise that we are rolling over our money, but figured I'd add that information here for those following it.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/GeorgeAtallah/status/572445953506086914[/tweet]

Anybody have a link that shows exactly how much the Hawks will be rolling over?

Edit: quick google answered my own question - https://www.nflpa.com/news/all-news/201 ... -positions

And here's another link for adjusted cap numbers for each team after the rollovers are included (ranked in order of space as opposed to alphabetical).

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/02/team-by-team-adjusted-cap-numbers/
 

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RobBaker7714409":16m1wo8n said:
kidhawk":16m1wo8n said:
It appears that every team but the rams have carried over their excess cap money from last season. No surprise that we are rolling over our money, but figured I'd add that information here for those following it.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/GeorgeAtallah/status/572445953506086914[/tweet]

Anybody have a link that shows exactly how much the Hawks will be rolling over?

Can't find it right now but saw it earlier and it was around $5M...it left the Hawks with about $25M cap space for the year. If the choose not to retain Mebane and Zach Miller (with their replacements already on the roster), that moves up to about $32M-$33M...

If one assumes a fairly traditional contract for RW with a $50M-$60M signing bonus amortized over 5 years and low salaries the first 2 years and a moderate one in the 3rd, we are looking at a $12M-$15M cap hit the first 2 years, 20's in the 3rd and 30's the last 2 (or 3 in a 6 yr deal). That doesn't seem unworkable at all to me assuming that Pete and John continue their draft magic.

EDIT: Also remembering that the average cap increase the past few years has been about $10M per year and assuming it stays close to that.

Just my opinion...your mileage may vary.
 

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That first pie chart has me thinking we overpay our offensive line. :snack:
 

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Scottemojo":2aif0zx1 said:
sutz":2aif0zx1 said:
kidhawk":2aif0zx1 said:
It appears that every team but the rams have carried over their excess cap money from last season. No surprise that we are rolling over our money, but figured I'd add that information here for those following it.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/GeorgeAtallah/status/572445953506086914[/tweet]
Genuinly curious here. Is there a logical reason NOT to carry over cap room?
There are. Theoretically, an owner could already be far below the cap and simply not want to spend the money.

But there are rules on that. Don't they have to spend 99% or something like that number....... if they don't spend enough I understand it as they pay it as a "fine"
 

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BadgerVid":1pr2v4bl said:
RobBaker7714409":1pr2v4bl said:
kidhawk":1pr2v4bl said:
It appears that every team but the rams have carried over their excess cap money from last season. No surprise that we are rolling over our money, but figured I'd add that information here for those following it.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/GeorgeAtallah/status/572445953506086914[/tweet]

Anybody have a link that shows exactly how much the Hawks will be rolling over?

Can't find it right now but saw it earlier and it was around $5M...it left the Hawks with about $25M cap space for the year. If the choose not to retain Mebane and Zach Miller (with their replacements already on the roster), that moves up to about $32M-$33M...

If one assumes a fairly traditional contract for RW with a $50M-$60M signing bonus amortized over 5 years and low salaries the first 2 years and a moderate one in the 3rd, we are looking at a $12M-$15M cap hit the first 2 years, 20's in the 3rd and 30's the last 2 (or 3 in a 6 yr deal). That doesn't seem unworkable at all to me assuming that Pete and John continue their draft magic.

EDIT: Also remembering that the average cap increase the past few years has been about $10M per year and assuming it stays close to that.

Just my opinion...your mileage may vary.

RW will most likely be an extension. So this coming year about $1m in base salary plus 1/5 of signing bonus. Hit won't be until 2016 league year
 

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mikeak":v2hu1d0f said:
Scottemojo":v2hu1d0f said:
sutz":v2hu1d0f said:
kidhawk":v2hu1d0f said:
It appears that every team but the rams have carried over their excess cap money from last season. No surprise that we are rolling over our money, but figured I'd add that information here for those following it.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/GeorgeAtallah/status/572445953506086914[/tweet]
Genuinly curious here. Is there a logical reason NOT to carry over cap room?
There are. Theoretically, an owner could already be far below the cap and simply not want to spend the money.

But there are rules on that. Don't they have to spend 99% or something like that number....... if they don't spend enough I understand it as they pay it as a "fine"

IIRC, if the "floor" of 84% isn't reached, then the difference between what they paid out, and the floor is how much they are fined. The fine is then distributed among (former maybe?) players for that team. Heard it on a podcast but it was about 2 weeks ago. Some research might bear that out, or correct it.

Here's some good info but it doesn't have what I was looking for:

"Question 1.2a

Is there a Minimum Salary?

Answer: Yep. Under the new CBA, The cap (max)for 2015 is $143M per team. Each team must average $136 M. That is a league-wide average not an individual team minimum. League-wide, teams were required to spend 99% of the cap in 2011 and 2012. In 2013 and beyond, they must spend 95% of the cap. In the event that player costs are less than this overall league minimum, then, on or before April 15 of the next League Year, the NFL must pay an amount equal to such deficiency directly to the players.


In terms of minimum salary for each team, the salary floor is 89% of the cap. That became effective in 2013, as this requirement was by-passed in 2011 and 2012. Hence, there was in essence no salary floor in 2011 or 2012.


Under the prior edition of the CBA, beginning in 2006 each team had to pay a guaranteed Minimum Team Salary of 84% of the Salary Cap. Each year that percentage went up by 1.2%. However, the Minimum Team Salary was not to extend beyond 90% of the Salary Cap and any shortfall in the Minimum Team Salary at the end of a league year had to be paid, on or before April 15 of the next league year, by the team(s) having such shortfall, directly to the players who were on that team's roster at any time during the season. "

http://www.askthecommish.com/SalaryCap/ ... p/faq.aspx
 
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