Pete, You're not a Running Team

Quit trying to fit square pegs in round holes. The strength is RW and the receivers. The oline/RBs, 0 yards and a cloud of dust isn't working.

Too many run plays (negative plays) for Eddie Lacy. It wasn't working and they kept going to him. The run game was non-existent. Good thing they have DangeRuss to make up for it.

I disagree were not going anywhere without a run game. I'm not saying were a run team but we need to be way better then that.

We are not a run first team. Play to strengths not weaknesses.

Every run with Lacy is a wasted play. They need to just cut bait and bring up a young, hungry guy from a practice squad.

They need to do 2 things.
1. Embrace that they are a passing team. The good news is that P-Rich has emerged as a stud to go with Baldwin, Lockette and Graham.

2 whatever they are doing now in the running game, scrap it and do the opposite. If they are zone blocking then power block, because they literally could not be any worse at running the football.

They need a run game, you all that say screw it and just become pass happy can go watch old Miami games and Saints games without a run game, great to watch but when you get to the playoffs you will have your one and done against teams that know a defense and running are important.

They need to be adaptable, they do not have the bodies at RB now to use a ZBS style run game, either not big and powerful enough to break initial tackles or to slow, Additionally the O line is not quick enough to get where they need to be and to long. They need to go to the power run drive blocking methods and pull guards to lead block edges.

Our stubbornness with the ZBS and not adapting to our personal has been our biggest run game killers, other then the edge today the pass blocking looked a lot better, very little push up the middle a lot more coming off the edges. Clowney was owning Ree's as he really probably should, also on the far edge against Ifedi. Yet his pocket was cleaner then most games so far.

Running game eats up clock time & keeps the other teams honest. I've given up on Rawls. Lacy at least blocks for Wilson. Maybe they should have done more running plays with Locket like they did against the giants.

I wonder if the Panthers would trade Jonathan Stewart. They lack in the secondary so maybe they would be open to acquiring Lane. While Stewart isn't the best back, he's leagues ahead of Rawls or Lacy. Sounds like he's not getting as much plays in Carolina due to McCaffrey.

It's Mike Davis time.

hawkfan68":25ugfge0 said:

I wonder if the Panthers would trade Jonathan Stewart. They lack in the secondary so maybe they would be open to acquiring Lane. While Stewart isn't the best back, he's leagues ahead of Rawls or Lacy. Sounds like he's not getting as much plays in Carolina due to McCaffrey.

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It’s not the running back, it’s our scheme. Look at Collins running for the ravens. The last thing this team needs is another running back.

They definitely need to work on the running game. But even if you are not a running team you need the threat of a possible run. They were playing heavy defense against the run so we torched them in the air. Play-action worked for us in several plays. If we never tried any running plays then play-action would be useless. We need to improve that part of our game but you can never give up on the run totally.

I don’t think anyone is saying never run the ball again. We are saying pass to set up the run, and change your running game.

I miss Carson. I still don't think he would be successful as things stand though.

edogg23":urwj2fbe said:

hawkfan68":urwj2fbe said:

I wonder if the Panthers would trade Jonathan Stewart. They lack in the secondary so maybe they would be open to acquiring Lane. While Stewart isn't the best back, he's leagues ahead of Rawls or Lacy. Sounds like he's not getting as much plays in Carolina due to McCaffrey.

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It’s not the running back, it’s our scheme. Look at Collins running for the ravens. The last thing this team needs is another running back.

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Collins was better than both Rawls and Lacy in the pre season though, but because they had just paid Lacy and Rawls was good for a few games once they kept them.

I don't think anything will happen with the run game if we don't fix our OL first.
Did anyone notice that play with Rawls.. takes a step left and slammed, That is our run game.
I don't think bringing any RB's in would change a thing, case and point, look how well the much maligned Alex Collin was.. sucked here.. looks great elsewhere. I wonder how good Carson or Rawls could be elsewhere.

CPHawk":35pu4zzr said:

edogg23":35pu4zzr said:

hawkfan68":35pu4zzr said:

I wonder if the Panthers would trade Jonathan Stewart. They lack in the secondary so maybe they would be open to acquiring Lane. While Stewart isn't the best back, he's leagues ahead of Rawls or Lacy. Sounds like he's not getting as much plays in Carolina due to McCaffrey.

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It’s not the running back, it’s our scheme. Look at Collins running for the ravens. The last thing this team needs is another running back.

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Collins was better than both Rawls and Lacy in the pre season though, but because they had just paid Lacy and Rawls was good for a few games once they kept them.

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LOL.. they played AC against players who arn't even playing in this league right now.

getnasty":2uqv2rju said:

I disagree were not going anywhere without a run game. I'm not saying were a run team but we need to be way better then that.

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I disagree. Why do we have to be a run a team?

Time to cut Rawls.

Can we cut Rawls and Lacy? These are scrap heap type guys. Bring up Mike Davis, see if we can get a spark from someone else. Clearly these guys aren’t cutting it.

Today killed any hope I had for Rawls. He is done.