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My post Super Bowl hot take
Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:01 am
  • Fire Brian Schottenheimer and hire Mike Lafleur away from the Niners to be our new OC.

    Pete wants to run the football; no problem. Lafleur would bring the Kyle/Mike Shanahan run game concepts and innovation with him, along with a more modernized passing scheme with more more play action and intermediate routes.

    Oh, and we’d steal a coach away from our chief division rival as well.

    I know it’s not going to happen, but it’s still fun to put it out there. :D
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:17 am

Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:23 am
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:The Niners just extended LaFleur.

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/49er ... er-report/



    I understand that, but it would be a promotion for him, since he’s not an OC in SF. We’d still have to get permission to interview him since he’s under contract. Like I said, it’s not going to happen, but it sure would be nice if it did.

    Here’s hoping Russ can lobby for some change in offensive philosophy and put us in better position to succeed in 2020 and beyond.
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:28 am
  • THE TABS wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:The Niners just extended LaFleur.

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/49er ... er-report/



    I understand that, but it would be a promotion for him, since he’s not an OC in SF. We’d still have to get permission to interview him since he’s under contract. Like I said, it’s not going to happen, but it sure would be nice if it did.

    Here’s hoping Russ can lobby for some change in offensive philosophy and put us in better position to succeed in 2020 and beyond.


    That's WHY you extend a young coach like LaFleur, to keep him from being hired away by other teams...........especially your biggest division rival.

    My guess is Shanahan's grooming him to take over for Modkins in a year or two.

    Besides, Pete would never hire an offensive coordinator that has big ideas and would want to make wholesale scheme changes. It's why he's hired re-treads like Bevell and Schotty, they're perfectly happy running Pete's scheme.
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:41 pm
  • THE TABS wrote:Fire Brian Schottenheimer and hire Mike Lafleur away from the Niners to be our new OC.

    Pete wants to run the football; no problem. Lafleur would bring the Kyle/Mike Shanahan run game concepts and innovation with him, along with a more modernized passing scheme with more more play action and intermediate routes.

    Oh, and we’d steal a coach away from our chief division rival as well.

    I know it’s not going to happen, but it’s still fun to put it out there. :D

    Pete doesn’t like to run intermediate routes. He doesn’t run the west coast offense.
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:08 pm
  • Schotty isn't the problem.
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:09 pm
  • TheLegendOfBoom wrote:
    THE TABS wrote:Fire Brian Schottenheimer and hire Mike Lafleur away from the Niners to be our new OC.

    Pete wants to run the football; no problem. Lafleur would bring the Kyle/Mike Shanahan run game concepts and innovation with him, along with a more modernized passing scheme with more more play action and intermediate routes.

    Oh, and we’d steal a coach away from our chief division rival as well.

    I know it’s not going to happen, but it’s still fun to put it out there. :D

    Pete doesn’t like to run intermediate routes. He doesn’t run the west coast offense.


    Not convinced that's accurate, but assuming it is you spose that's why our defense can't defend against them? Our opponents are eating us alive throwing to the spaces in middle of our zone.
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:02 pm
  • bigskydoc wrote:Schotty isn't the problem.



    okay then what or who is?
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:08 pm
  • Wait a minute! Didn't the 9ers LOSE the game, in the 4th quarter by (IMO) panicking and getting away from what they do (did) best. You wanna hire that guy? If you're gonna hire a new OC, why not hire Bieniemy, the OC of the winner?
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:09 pm
  • John63 wrote:
    bigskydoc wrote:Schotty isn't the problem.



    okay then what or who is?


    1. The defense
    2. The defense
    3. The defense
    4. The defense
    5. The defense

    I know you're immune to stats when arguing about how awful Pete and his offensive schemes are, but not sure how you can prioritize any offensive issues when we have a top 5 QB, top 5 run game and top 5 overall offense when the defense is downright terrible.......bottom 10 in just about every statistical category.

    You get back to a top 5-10 defense? This team becomes a serious SB contender, and not just fighting for WC berths every season.
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:26 pm
  • It's not the defense fault that the offense rarely plays well in the first half. That's coaching.
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:48 pm
  • I've said this before... I don't want an offensive scheme that relies heavily on confusing the defense to be effective. Those offenses are great when you have a good O-Line and have to protect an average QB from himself.

    Seattle is similar to KC; they don't need to engineer plays to get one or two guys open so the QB knows where to go with the ball. They can build an offense around guys who can win 1 on 1 match ups and design plays where the QB reads the defense rather than essentially being told where to go with the ball before the snap.

    I think the take-away from last nights game is to put more weapons around Wilson, and give him a bit more help on the O-Line. That's the biggest difference between the KC offense and ours.

    I don't want to hear about philosophy either, KC started slow in every single playoff game. The only difference between KC and Seattle this season? They had the talent to make their 4th quarter comebacks, and we came up just short.
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:20 pm
  • knownone wrote:I've said this before... I don't want an offensive scheme that relies heavily on confusing the defense to be effective. Those offenses are great when you have a good O-Line and have to protect an average QB from himself.

    Seattle is similar to KC; they don't need to engineer plays to get one or two guys open so the QB knows where to go with the ball. They can build an offense around guys who can win 1 on 1 match ups and design plays where the QB reads the defense rather than essentially being told where to go with the ball before the snap.

    I think the take-away from last nights game is to put more weapons around Wilson, and give him a bit more help on the O-Line. That's the biggest difference between the KC offense and ours.

    I don't want to hear about philosophy either, KC started slow in every single playoff game. The only difference between KC and Seattle this season? They had the talent to make their 4th quarter comebacks, and we came up just short.

    That and the KC defense was 8th overall in scoring D and we were like 28th.
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:31 pm
  • The Sgt. and Cyrus are both correct. It is a combination of the defense and coaching.

    The defense is just talent, especially on the line. We also need the younger DB's to step up this next year. That would be more doable if our D-Line can do a much better job of pressure on opposing QB's.

    The coaching is more a measure of philosophy and urgency, more than the individual coaches in my book. I am of course referring to our offensive method of feeling out teams the first half in every game. This at best gets us a half time score of 3 points up or down at that point in the game. At worse we are down by at least two scores and have to play catch up all second half. The problem is I don't see this changing with PC at the helm.

    So the solution is get our defense to at least top 10 in yards and scoring against to give our offense more opportunities with the ball. That will require much better talent. In this respect I agree with the Sgt.

    PC isn't going to change. So something else must change this next year. That is where I do hope that RW finally saying some things publicly along with some other offensive leaders may push PC to be more uptempo and creative the first half of games. Personally I think RW should have spoke up several years ago.
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:08 pm
  • TreeRon wrote:Wait a minute! Didn't the 9ers LOSE the game, in the 4th quarter by (IMO) panicking and getting away from what they do (did) best. You wanna hire that guy? If you're gonna hire a new OC, why not hire Bieniemy, the OC of the winner?


    1. Can’t hire an OC unilaterally for the same job.

    2. Lafleur is the passing game coordinator, not the OC nor the play caller.
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:19 pm
  • THE TABS wrote:
    TreeRon wrote:Wait a minute! Didn't the 9ers LOSE the game, in the 4th quarter by (IMO) panicking and getting away from what they do (did) best. You wanna hire that guy? If you're gonna hire a new OC, why not hire Bieniemy, the OC of the winner?


    1. Can’t hire an OC unilaterally for the same job.

    2. Lafleur is the passing game coordinator, not the OC nor the play caller.


    The point is, this years hot flavor might be next years flop. Remember LY when everyone wanted us to hire DeFilippo or whatever his name is. He got fired TY.
    (We could make Bieniemy asst hd coach or whatever, but I wasn't serious)
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:52 pm
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    John63 wrote:
    bigskydoc wrote:Schotty isn't the problem.



    okay then what or who is?


    1. The defense
    2. The defense
    3. The defense
    4. The defense
    5. The defense


    ^^^This Guy

    There almost always isn't enough offense on any team to overcome nearly 25 PPG allowed and expect to have a good shot at winning a Super Bowl. The Giants were the last team to give up that kind of point average and win it and that was some lightning in a bottle.

    The Chiefs finally got it done because they actually fielded a good defense this year. All that insane slinging the last few years with poopy defense got them knocked out. And those Chiefs did a bunch of Seahawk-y things in the playoffs screwing up the first half and then coming back. The difference is their defense can actually get stops when it matters.

    The Patriots have seemingly only managed SB wins in the years that they could get a good to great defense paired with the offense.

    If this defense doesn't get fixed much, and they "let Russ cook", they'll score a lot of points. And give up a lot of points. Maybe some people think that is fun but it likely doesn't translate to more wins, especially in the playoffs.
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:57 pm
  • bmorepunk wrote:.......If this defense doesn't get fixed much, and they "let Russ cook", they'll score a lot of points. And give up a lot of points. Maybe some people think that is fun but it likely doesn't translate to more wins, especially in the playoffs.

    But think of all those pretty, shiny stats Russ will pile up. Dreamy!
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:39 am
  • Cyrus12 wrote:It's not the defense fault that the offense rarely plays well in the first half. That's coaching.


    The Hawks had four more TD's in the 2nd half in 2019 then the 1st half, and compiled 3,094 yards in the first half vs 3,002 yards in the 2nd half.

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... splits.htm

    Our offense performed much better in the first half this year compared to previous seasons. So we need to retire this old narrative.

    So no, it's not the offense making the defense bad. It's a bad defense, and should be the first, second, third and fourth thing addressed this off season.

    Again, if you guys think Pete's going to change his offensive philosophy at the ripe old age of 68, then you're delusional. Get the defense back to a top 5-10 defense, and this team becomes a legitimate SB contender.
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:26 pm
  • Coach says he is looking forward to working in new adjustments to defense for next year.
    I am in favor of adjustments that change from a somewhat passive reactionary zone scheme to something that is an attacking defense. Seems to me if you play reactionary defense you are providing additional built in advantage to the offense. I want to see a defense that dictates play instead of reacting after the fact.
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:34 pm
  • Appyhawk wrote:Coach says he is looking forward to working in new adjustments to defense for next year.
    I am in favor of adjustments that change from a somewhat passive reactionary zone scheme to something that is an attacking defense. Seems to me if you play reactionary defense you are providing additional built in advantage to the offense. I want to see a defense that dictates play instead of reacting after the fact.


    That's the indictment of how poorly John and Pete have tried to rebuild the defense over the past 3-4 years.

    We all know Pete wants to dictate, on both sides of the ball. What's forced his hand into playing base 50% or more is personnel, he doesn't trust the players he's having to put on the field to press cover, rush only four and play single high safety.

    It's not like Pete all of a sudden got more conservative on defense. He HAD to, and again that's an indictment of the lack of faith he had in the guys on the field to not mess up and give up big plays if he played his usual cover three scheme.
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:54 pm
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    Appyhawk wrote:Coach says he is looking forward to working in new adjustments to defense for next year.
    I am in favor of adjustments that change from a somewhat passive reactionary zone scheme to something that is an attacking defense. Seems to me if you play reactionary defense you are providing additional built in advantage to the offense. I want to see a defense that dictates play instead of reacting after the fact.


    That's the indictment of how poorly John and Pete have tried to rebuild the defense over the past 3-4 years.

    We all know Pete wants to dictate, on both sides of the ball. What's forced his hand into playing base 50% or more is personnel, he doesn't trust the players he's having to put on the field to press cover, rush only four and play single high safety.

    It's not like Pete all of a sudden got more conservative on defense. He HAD to, and again that's an indictment of the lack of faith he had in the guys on the field to not mess up and give up big plays if he played his usual cover three scheme.


    Agreed. The only moves in the past 4 years that have panned out has been Diggs and maybe Clowny. Draft picks across the whole defense have been abysmal. If you are going to point to Shaq Griffen and tell me that is the standard we are shooting for then I will show you a team that is not a SB contender.
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:05 pm
  • HawkerD wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:
    Appyhawk wrote:Coach says he is looking forward to working in new adjustments to defense for next year.
    I am in favor of adjustments that change from a somewhat passive reactionary zone scheme to something that is an attacking defense. Seems to me if you play reactionary defense you are providing additional built in advantage to the offense. I want to see a defense that dictates play instead of reacting after the fact.


    That's the indictment of how poorly John and Pete have tried to rebuild the defense over the past 3-4 years.

    We all know Pete wants to dictate, on both sides of the ball. What's forced his hand into playing base 50% or more is personnel, he doesn't trust the players he's having to put on the field to press cover, rush only four and play single high safety.

    It's not like Pete all of a sudden got more conservative on defense. He HAD to, and again that's an indictment of the lack of faith he had in the guys on the field to not mess up and give up big plays if he played his usual cover three scheme.


    Agreed. The only moves in the past 4 years that have panned out has been Diggs and maybe Clowny. Draft picks across the whole defense have been abysmal. If you are going to point to Shaq Griffen and tell me that is the standard we are shooting for then I will show you a team that is not a SB contender.

    Are you serious? We were a handful of injuries from being the #1 seed with the 28th ranked defense. I would kill for more Shaq Griffen caliber players :les:.

    I think you guys might be underestimating this front office. They are just now emerging from two years of cap hell. Mcdowell was a major investment that got injured off the field. His injury led them to give up a 2nd to bring in Richardson (who did not work out). They also gave up another 2nd for Brown because Fant got injured. This feels a bit unlucky rather than an indictment on their ineptitude.

    They've been fairly league average in how they've hit on draft picks and attempted to rebuild their defense. Let's not forget, this team has ranked 3rd, 13th, 11th, and 22nd in scoring defense the past 4 seasons. It's not like they've been an unmitigated disaster during the entirety of this stretch.

    I think the issue is pretty obvious, Seattle was banking on being able to rush the passer with Ziggy, Collier, Green, Clowney, and it did not work out. Now they finally have the cap space and draft capital to actually target guys they need, rather than attempting to rebuild on the cheap out of necessity.

    The 49ers were ranked 28th in defense last season. They used the #2 overall pick on Bosa, traded a 2nd rounder for Dee Ford, and in total spent about 45 Million rebuilding their defense / pass rush. This season they were ranked 2nd in defense. Did the rest of their roster just magically get better? Nope. They went from an average pass rush to an elite pass rusher which made their entire defense better collectively.

    That's the thing, a lot of the guys the Hawks have drafted, who look average to bad right now, might actually be capable starters with the right supporting cast around them. Seattle finally has the resources to put difference makers around them, so let's hold off before indicting the Hawks on the previous 4 years of roster moves when they had one hand tied behind their back for much of that time.
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:31 pm
  • People use the wrong stats when judging offense and defense. Yards matter not. Points are everything.

    This year the Seahawks Offense, even with a plethora of injuries, ranked #9 in scoring in the NFL. 25.3 points per game with one of the toughest Strength of Schedules in the NFL.

    Vikings: 25.4

    New England: 26.2 (cupcake schedule)

    Cowboys: 27.1

    Chiefs: 28.2 (2.9 PPG difference from Seattle).

    Tampa Bay: 28.6

    New Orleans: 28.6

    SF: 29.9

    Ravens: 33.2

    Defense was the issue. Unlike SF, we don't have the luxury of a losing history with high 1st round, after high 1st round pick on the DLine (19.4 PPG), or a Cupcake Division like New England has (14.1 PPG)

    After years of double digit wins and being in the playoffs, our Cap was getting maxed out, our players were getting old, and we had to do a "turn" as Pete called it. Cutting a bunch of aging, high-priced players, and replacing them with draftees and signees. Since all of our picks were late picks, we didn't have the luxury of selecting the cream of the crop.

    But, with great scouting, and coaching, and in spite of injuries, we made it to 11-5 this year. We were inches from being NFCW Champions, and possibly the #1 NFC seed.

    As it was, with 17 players on IR, and 1 Rookie DT (DeMarcus Christmas) on PUP, this team still managed to keep games close, by holding opponents to 24.9 PPG. Granted, that left them ranked 22nd, but considering how decimated this team was, that's damn good coaching.

    That's only 5.5 ppg more than a LOADED SF Defense gave up.

    None of that takes in to account defensive players that they nursed through to the end. Clowney (Core Injury requiring surgery), Bobby Wagner (knee), Quinton Jefferson (Ankle/Broken Foot), Ziggy Ansah (Neck), Tre Flowers ((knee), Marquise Blair (Ankle), Quandre Diggs (Ankle).

    Would I like to see some changes though? Yes. But not to coaching staff, and nothing major. Just some offensive adjustments to take advantage of our MVP Caliber QB, and our newfound weapons that nobody realized that we had.

    I'd like to see the OLine improve, and add a good to great TE and WR.

    I want to see draft capital go in to the defensive line. If we could have gotten some pass rush, it would have helped out our backfield a LOT. As it was, once we finally got the Safeties settled, it looked pretty good. Trey Flowers had some bloopers, but I expect him to make a big jump during his 3rd training camp, much like our Pro Bowl DB did.
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:54 am
  • ivotuk wrote:People use the wrong stats when judging offense and defense. Yards matter not. Points are everything.

    This year the Seahawks Offense, even with a plethora of injuries, ranked #9 in scoring in the NFL. 25.3 points per game with one of the toughest Strength of Schedules in the NFL.

    Vikings: 25.4

    New England: 26.2 (cupcake schedule)

    Cowboys: 27.1

    Chiefs: 28.2 (2.9 PPG difference from Seattle).

    Tampa Bay: 28.6

    New Orleans: 28.6

    SF: 29.9

    Ravens: 33.2

    Defense was the issue. Unlike SF, we don't have the luxury of a losing history with high 1st round, after high 1st round pick on the DLine (19.4 PPG), or a Cupcake Division like New England has (14.1 PPG)

    After years of double digit wins and being in the playoffs, our Cap was getting maxed out, our players were getting old, and we had to do a "turn" as Pete called it. Cutting a bunch of aging, high-priced players, and replacing them with draftees and signees. Since all of our picks were late picks, we didn't have the luxury of selecting the cream of the crop.

    But, with great scouting, and coaching, and in spite of injuries, we made it to 11-5 this year. We were inches from being NFCW Champions, and possibly the #1 NFC seed.

    As it was, with 17 players on IR, and 1 Rookie DT (DeMarcus Christmas) on PUP, this team still managed to keep games close, by holding opponents to 24.9 PPG. Granted, that left them ranked 22nd, but considering how decimated this team was, that's damn good coaching.

    That's only 5.5 ppg more than a LOADED SF Defense gave up.

    None of that takes in to account defensive players that they nursed through to the end. Clowney (Core Injury requiring surgery), Bobby Wagner (knee), Quinton Jefferson (Ankle/Broken Foot), Ziggy Ansah (Neck), Tre Flowers ((knee), Marquise Blair (Ankle), Quandre Diggs (Ankle).

    Would I like to see some changes though? Yes. But not to coaching staff, and nothing major. Just some offensive adjustments to take advantage of our MVP Caliber QB, and our newfound weapons that nobody realized that we had.

    I'd like to see the OLine improve, and add a good to great TE and WR.

    I want to see draft capital go in to the defensive line. If we could have gotten some pass rush, it would have helped out our backfield a LOT. As it was, once we finally got the Safeties settled, it looked pretty good. Trey Flowers had some bloopers, but I expect him to make a big jump during his 3rd training camp, much like our Pro Bowl DB did.


    People forget Flowers is learning on the fly, two years learning his job at the highest level against the highest level competition. Year three of four we will see strides, I expect improvement not Pro Bowl necessarily. Saying that he is getting better, also in respect to learning and unlearning abilities from CB and Safety takes time. He is a prospect that has shown ability, look at the rest of our roster at CB and seeing some of them play who is better?
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:33 am
  • Agree with you Chris that FLowers has shown potential. I like a natural ballhawk.

    "They also gave up another 2nd for Brown".
    Steal of a deal. Between Brown and Clowney deals I'm surprised Houston hasn't charged our FO crew with grand theft. Both were outstanding moves.
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:44 am
  • I have no problem with Schotty. I don't think getting a flavour of the month coach is going to change things. Schotty has advanced Wilson's game immensely and established a balanced attack that can score when healthy.

    On the other hand we were the worst pass rushing team in the league and that has to change. It's a passing league and you have to get to the QB since DB's are largely pylon's these days with all the rule changes. So that's my hot take.

    The DL talent gap between the Hawks and SF/KC was the biggest difference I saw.
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:56 am
  • ivotuk wrote:Unlike SF, we don't have the luxury of a losing history with high 1st round


    Ah, yes, that fabled luxury of having one of the worst teams in the NFL and getting high draft picks because you're awful.

    It's really how the Browns, Bengals, Lions, Bucs, Jags, Raiders, etc. have been able to sustain their success over the years. :lol: :roll:

    Is it too much to wish this luxury on you, or no? ;)
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:07 am
  • Perhaps I'm growing increasingly out of touch with the typical poster here but I don't agree there is a singular "the problem" to scapegoat. There's just one Super Bowl winner every year and luck plays a major role regarding injuries, officiating calls, and close plays that could have gone either way. Who at the start of this season expected the Tannehill led Titans to knock both the Ravens and Patriots out of the playoffs, leading to such an easy path for the Chiefs? All that unpredictability makes the sport fun to follow but also chaotic and the Super Bowl winner is rarely the best team each year.

    You always have to be on the lookout for upgrades but personally I don't see any evidence that Mike LaFleur would do a better job. Remember that the 49ers offense struggled tremendously for a stretch when they had those key injuries to Kittle and Sanders, but the main difference was that they had everybody healthy again at the end of the season. If they had lost their RBs for the season like we did then this thread doesn't exist. Our final game against them could have gone either way and they were the far healthier team, so I don't really understand where all the angst about scheme and coaching comes from.
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:43 pm
  • Popeyejones wrote:
    ivotuk wrote:Unlike SF, we don't have the luxury of a losing history with high 1st round


    Ah, yes, that fabled luxury of having one of the worst teams in the NFL and getting high draft picks because you're awful.

    It's really how the Browns, Bengals, Lions, Bucs, Jags, Raiders, etc. have been able to sustain their success over the years. :lol: :roll:

    Is it too much to wish this luxury on you, or no? ;)

    Point taken and yeah, Lynch had to still hit on the picks but you know damned good and well it's a hell of an advantage. Think 30 other teams probably would've taken Bosa #2 last year?
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:56 pm
  • John63 wrote:
    bigskydoc wrote:Schotty isn't the problem.



    okay then what or who is?


    Schotty executes the game plan that Carrol dictates. Make of that what you will.
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:03 pm
  • John63 wrote:
    bigskydoc wrote:Schotty isn't the problem.



    okay then what or who is?


    He's not the solution either . All these things are totally up to Carroll to sort out ..not assistants . IMO
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:45 pm
  • Many issues with the team made less glaring due primarily to the stellar abilities of one Russel Wilson.

    The D was pretty bad overall and declined more and more as the season wore on and injuries accumulated.

    Pete is long in the tooth scheme wise. Schotty is okay and seems to have helped elevate RW's game even more.

    Don't think this team will win another SB with Pete. (But would love to be proven wrong.)

    Sorry if that offends some in here. Love what Pete did for the team/city etc. but just not sure he's the right guy for Wilson at this point in Wilson's career / development.

    A solid run game and defense combined with Russel Wilson puts us at or near the top of the league IMO.

    That's how good Russ is but I fear his best years are now being wasted a bit primarily due to Pete.

    That said, it was a great season and getting to watch Lynch come back was really something special.
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Re: My post Super Bowl hot take
Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:33 pm
  • RW4LIFE wrote:Many issues with the team made less glaring due primarily to the stellar abilities of one Russel Wilson.

    The D was pretty bad overall and declined more and more as the season wore on and injuries accumulated.

    Pete is long in the tooth scheme wise. Schotty is okay and seems to have helped elevate RW's game even more.

    Don't think this team will win another SB with Pete. (But would love to be proven wrong.)

    Sorry if that offends some in here. Love what Pete did for the team/city etc. but just not sure he's the right guy for Wilson at this point in Wilson's career / development.

    A solid run game and defense combined with Russel Wilson puts us at or near the top of the league IMO.

    That's how good Russ is but I fear his best years are now being wasted a bit primarily due to Pete.

    That said, it was a great season and getting to watch Lynch come back was really something special.



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