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I thought this was the best reffed game I had seen in YEARS.
It made the game good.
It made the game good.
Sgt. Largent":24qjotub said:That's because the refs in the playoffs are told not to decide games, which is what they should be told the ENTIRE YEAR.
You know damn well Steratore was dying to overturn one of those Eagle's TD's, but the league office probably told him to hold up the call on the field, as to not make it about the refs deciding the SB.
Playoff reffing is how they should ref the entire year. Let the damn players play, and if it's not CLEAR AND EVIDENT, don't turn the call over.
Sgt. Largent":3jghq67b said:That's because the refs in the playoffs are told not to decide games, which is what they should be told the ENTIRE YEAR.
You know damn well Steratore was dying to overturn one of those Eagle's TD's, but the league office probably told him to hold up the call on the field, as to not make it about the refs deciding the SB.
Playoff reffing is how they should ref the entire year. Let the damn players play, and if it's not CLEAR AND EVIDENT, don't turn the call over.
ivotuk":16evxkni said:Sgt. Largent":16evxkni said:That's because the refs in the playoffs are told not to decide games, which is what they should be told the ENTIRE YEAR.
You know damn well Steratore was dying to overturn one of those Eagle's TD's, but the league office probably told him to hold up the call on the field, as to not make it about the refs deciding the SB.
Playoff reffing is how they should ref the entire year. Let the damn players play, and if it's not CLEAR AND EVIDENT, don't turn the call over.
Well, except for that one game, in Detroit, a few years back, where the refs were given free reign...
oldhawkfan":3fkci95g said:NE had a total of 2 penalties in the AFCCG and Super Bowl combined! How is that even possible? The Seahawks get that many per drive!
original poster":1cwi6b9d said:oldhawkfan":1cwi6b9d said:NE had a total of 2 penalties in the AFCCG and Super Bowl combined! How is that even possible? The Seahawks get that many per drive!
Crazy isn't it.
Hard to believe that is purely down to discipline from the Patriots.
Fairly sure I saw at least a couple holds by their OL.
Sox-n-Hawks":2gq00l0j said:original poster":2gq00l0j said:oldhawkfan":2gq00l0j said:NE had a total of 2 penalties in the AFCCG and Super Bowl combined! How is that even possible? The Seahawks get that many per drive!
Crazy isn't it.
Hard to believe that is purely down to discipline from the Patriots.
Fairly sure I saw at least a couple holds by their OL.
Hell Ifedi had that many on the same PLAY.
original poster":1jrbl0si said:Fairly sure I saw at least a couple holds by their OL.
Popeyejones":z9r9oppv said:original poster":z9r9oppv said:Fairly sure I saw at least a couple holds by their OL.
That's also just called "watching a football game", though.
I can't remember who it was (either Eric Winston or John Urschell -- it was on the freakonomics super bowl podcast rebroadcast), but the idea was basically that the key to being a successful NFL O lineman wasn't about being able to win your matchup without holding, but instead, it was having the smarts and ability to know PRECISELY HOW MUCH holding you could get away with without getting called for it.
original poster":35l0f6a3 said:Popeyejones":35l0f6a3 said:original poster":35l0f6a3 said:Fairly sure I saw at least a couple holds by their OL.
That's also just called "watching a football game", though.
I can't remember who it was (either Eric Winston or John Urschell -- it was on the freakonomics super bowl podcast rebroadcast), but the idea was basically that the key to being a successful NFL O lineman wasn't about being able to win your matchup without holding, but instead, it was having the smarts and ability to know PRECISELY HOW MUCH holding you could get away with without getting called for it.
Yeah I don’t doubt that for a second to be fair.
mikeak":29s4a9g3 said:So while I like the "let the guys play" - lets take an example
Eagles second 2pt conversion. If you stop the picture the NE defender is using TWO hands right into the chest of the WR and pushes him full extension PRIOR to the ball arriving......
At what point is "the refs not deciding the game" actually turning into the "refs deciding the game" by NOT throwing a flag........
I get it - ticky-tacky calls, non impacting hold on the other side of the field, block in the back on every single return etc etc and PI on contact both ways --- yeah lets not call that, but somehow the blatant calls are still needed
Vpk0718":lqqy3b99 said:Sgt. Largent":lqqy3b99 said:That's because the refs in the playoffs are told not to decide games, which is what they should be told the ENTIRE YEAR.
You know damn well Steratore was dying to overturn one of those Eagle's TD's, but the league office probably told him to hold up the call on the field, as to not make it about the refs deciding the SB.
Playoff reffing is how they should ref the entire year. Let the damn players play, and if it's not CLEAR AND EVIDENT, don't turn the call over.
You're saying playoff reffing as a whole, yet the Pats/Jags game was horribly officiated. They let New England get away with everything they were calling Jacksonville for. Terrible.
mikeak":3dcjb9b0 said:So while I like the "let the guys play" - lets take an example
Eagles second 2pt conversion. If you stop the picture the NE defender is using TWO hands right into the chest of the WR and pushes him full extension PRIOR to the ball arriving......
At what point is "the refs not deciding the game" actually turning into the "refs deciding the game" by NOT throwing a flag........
Sgt. Largent":1idmpqwz said:mikeak":1idmpqwz said:So while I like the "let the guys play" - lets take an example
Eagles second 2pt conversion. If you stop the picture the NE defender is using TWO hands right into the chest of the WR and pushes him full extension PRIOR to the ball arriving......
At what point is "the refs not deciding the game" actually turning into the "refs deciding the game" by NOT throwing a flag........
I'm even OK with this, it's how football used to be played. Guys like Dave Brown, Easley, Ronnie Lott, Lester Hayes used to manhandle WR's........and you come across the middle? You're getting destroyed.
The play you're talking about both players were hand fighting, and maybe the NE DB under the rule pass interfered, but if both players are fighting for position? Good, let them play.
If that play gets called, it changes the game...........the SB. Again, I'm fine with lenient reffing, because it makes for the most enjoyable viewing experience. Used to be 5-10 penalties were called per game, now it's approaching 20.
Add in all the stupid reviews and challenges, and something has to give.
original poster":28t38pnc said:Sgt. Largent":28t38pnc said:mikeak":28t38pnc said:So while I like the "let the guys play" - lets take an example
Eagles second 2pt conversion. If you stop the picture the NE defender is using TWO hands right into the chest of the WR and pushes him full extension PRIOR to the ball arriving......
At what point is "the refs not deciding the game" actually turning into the "refs deciding the game" by NOT throwing a flag........
I'm even OK with this, it's how football used to be played. Guys like Dave Brown, Easley, Ronnie Lott, Lester Hayes used to manhandle WR's........and you come across the middle? You're getting destroyed.
The play you're talking about both players were hand fighting, and maybe the NE DB under the rule pass interfered, but if both players are fighting for position? Good, let them play.
If that play gets called, it changes the game...........the SB. Again, I'm fine with lenient reffing, because it makes for the most enjoyable viewing experience. Used to be 5-10 penalties were called per game, now it's approaching 20.
Add in all the stupid reviews and challenges, and something has to give.
Couldn't agree more.
If only the officiating was as good in the regular season.
Just let the guys play ball.
Seahawkfan80":t5ox0ney said:This leads to a lot of confusion on reffing....what reffing are we gonna have this week? Is it gonna be high and tight? Are they gonna be lax and let them play? Are they gonna steer the game? Without a standard, they can not determine what reffing is gonna happen at any point in time....or on any game. I think the only standard I have seen is to not have a standard between games so it keeps the teams off balance....or the coaches.