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 Post subject: Re: WOW - ND LB T'eo's dead GF story a HOAX!!!
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I'll take a straight shot Super; you're a rube. Color it anyway you'd like, Te'o's a creepy liar. And that's the opinion of a man who's actually done a stretch in a nut-hut, Te'o makes me look sane.


Ok, well that's just your opinion. You don't have any more information than the rest of us. You've come to a conclusion and that's fine. Me, I'm gonna wait to hear the rest of the details before I pass judgement.


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I'll take a straight shot Super; you're a rube. Color it anyway you'd like, Te'o's a creepy liar. And that's the opinion of a man who's actually done a stretch in a nut-hut, Te'o makes me look sane.


Ok, well that's just your opinion. You don't have any more information than the rest of us. You've come to a conclusion and that's fine. Me, I'm gonna wait to hear the rest of the details before I pass judgement.


Sounds more like you're going to let your biases continue to do their thing and hope to God you don't actually have to make a judgment call which would make Notre Dame look bad.

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Back to watching T'eo as a football player, am I the only one that thinks he still has a place on the Seahawks? Potential top talent that may be able to be had at a bargain, just needs a gutsy team to take a chance on him... who does that sounds like?

Even if he is "simple" or "child like," the dude has football instincts.


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I'll take a straight shot Super; you're a rube. Color it anyway you'd like, Te'o's a creepy liar. And that's the opinion of a man who's actually done a stretch in a nut-hut, Te'o makes me look sane.


Ok, well that's just your opinion. You don't have any more information than the rest of us. You've come to a conclusion and that's fine. Me, I'm gonna wait to hear the rest of the details before I pass judgement.


Sounds more like you're going to let your biases continue to do their thing and hope to God you don't actually have to make a judgment call which would make Notre Dame look bad.


ND already does look really bad in all this. I was flat out wrong in my national championship prediction, I have no problem owning that. I'm not the homer you'd like to make me out to be. Am I hoping it isn't worst case and that he is a total creep POS? Of course but as I've said numerous times I have no idea what the truth is yet, and frankly neither does anyone else here.


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I'll take a straight shot Super; you're a rube. Color it anyway you'd like, Te'o's a creepy liar. And that's the opinion of a man who's actually done a stretch in a nut-hut, Te'o makes me look sane.


Ok, well that's just your opinion. You don't have any more information than the rest of us. You've come to a conclusion and that's fine. Me, I'm gonna wait to hear the rest of the details before I pass judgement.


I dont need evidence. As Digital Underground said; "game recognize game".

I've spent most of my life in a world of liars, thieves and masqueraders...I'm well-versed in people like this. You can dismiss that all you want, but anyone who's lived that type of life can recognize and identify personalities better than psychiatrists.

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pehawk wrote:
I've spent most of my life in a world of liars, thieves and masqueraders...I'm well-versed in people like this. You can dismiss that all you want, but anyone who's lived that type of life can recognize and identify personalities better than psychiatrists.


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In high school, Te'o had a 3.5 grade-point average and did volunteer work with the Shriners Hospital, Head Start preschool program, Hawai'i Food Bank and Special Olympics. Te'o also became an Eagle Scout in November 2008.[15] Te'o is an active member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church).


That doesn't scream creep to me. The girlfriend situation sounds more closet-homosexual or closet-religious than dirt-bag masquerader.


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I said creepy liar (why do I feel like I'm kidhawk and you're you now?). I agree, I think its a closet-case thing. But, lying gets creepy when you make up dead broads for media love.

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To be honest I can't believe the Te'o innocence angle is getting the amount of play and acceptance that it seems to be. The guy is a pathological liar. As pehawk said, I've known too many people like this and I can see it from a mile away. As bold as it sounds, I don't need anymore details to have a solid understanding of how this whole mess went down. Te'o is a creep and Notre Dame looks ridiculous.

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pehawk wrote:
I said creepy liar (why do I feel like I'm kidhawk and you're you now?). I agree, I think its a closet-case thing. But, lying gets creepy when you make up dead broads for media love.


Maybe he's a closet Necro??? :sarcasm_on:


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I said creepy liar (why do I feel like I'm kidhawk and you're you now?). I agree, I think its a closet-case thing. But, lying gets creepy when you make up dead broads for media love.


Maybe he's a closet Necro??? :sarcasm_on:


And you my friend are a nazi (I read that somewhere).

I'm with Code. I cant believe ANYONE'S letting him off the hook by even acknowledging his victim angle.

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pehawk wrote:
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I said creepy liar (why do I feel like I'm kidhawk and you're you now?). I agree, I think its a closet-case thing. But, lying gets creepy when you make up dead broads for media love.


Maybe he's a closet Necro??? :sarcasm_on:


And you my friend are a nazi (I read that somewhere).

I'm with Code. I cant believe ANYONE'S letting him off the hook by even acknowledging his victim angle.


I need to add ".net Nazi" to my avatar.

Ray Lewis was indicted for murder and we're screaming bloody hell for some web of lies about an imaginery girlfriend. I just watched some more footage on T'eo to get me grounded in reality. I'd be excited to have him as a football player if his draft stock falls and we get a bargain. Another chance for Pete to be stupid like a fox.

If we don't get him and he turns out to be actually crazy, I do want the opportunity to go back and delete these posts that will potentially make me look stupid.


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Dude, I heard that she's got lupus and is pretty reckless with her Segway. Be careful.

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The Ray Lewis thing is a hard one for me. It's a "but for the grace of god goes I" thing.

Not that I'm a gangsta thug, far from it. But, I've seen dudes get put into comas, legs broken, jaws shattered into paste via circumstantial punches or falls. Another inch or two, it easily could've ended up a homicide, EASY. Anyone in the early 20's, who ended up in fights, could've been Ray Lewis. Or, to put it another way, any of us.

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The Ray Lewis thing is a hard one for me. It's a "but for the grace of god goes I" thing.

Not that I'm a gangsta thug, far from it. But, I've seen dudes get put into comas, legs broken, jaws shattered into paste via circumstantial punches or falls. Another inch or two, it easily could've ended up a homicide, EASY. Anyone in the early 20's, who ended up in fights, could've been Ray Lewis. Or, to put it another way, any of us.


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In high school, Te'o had a 3.5 grade-point average and did volunteer work with the Shriners Hospital, Head Start preschool program, Hawai'i Food Bank and Special Olympics. Te'o also became an Eagle Scout in November 2008.[15] Te'o is an active member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church).


That doesn't scream creep to me. The girlfriend situation sounds more closet-homosexual or closet-religious than dirt-bag masquerader.


fwiw.... when you are Mormon you are forced to do all those things (w/ the exception of GPA). Volunteer work, boy scouts, etc. If you don't do it you are looked at as a TOTAL outsider, bad kid, bad parents, and outcast.

signed, someone who was raised Mormon.

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Anyone who's been in a barfight couldve easily had some douche slip and crack his head open. I.e. manslaughter.

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Anyone who's been in a barfight couldve easily had some douche slip and crack his head open. I.e. manslaughter.


Have you been watching Con Air?


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12evanf wrote:
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I've spent most of my life in a world of liars, thieves and masqueraders...I'm well-versed in people like this. You can dismiss that all you want, but anyone who's lived that type of life can recognize and identify personalities better than psychiatrists.


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In high school, Te'o had a 3.5 grade-point average and did volunteer work with the Shriners Hospital, Head Start preschool program, Hawai'i Food Bank and Special Olympics. Te'o also became an Eagle Scout in November 2008.[15] Te'o is an active member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church).


That doesn't scream creep to me. The girlfriend situation sounds more closet-homosexual or closet-religious than dirt-bag masquerader.

Ted Bundy did charity work too...not saying Te'o's that kinda creep, but a lot of creeps hide behind a kind, compassionate front.


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A lot of people are painting this issue as black and white when in reality it is probably mostly gray.

Has he lied? Yes, there really is no denying that. But, the real issue here is what the intent was.

If he lied to cover up the embarrassment of being in love with a girl he's never met online that's a whole lot less of a big deal than if he lied and was involved in a big conspiracy in order to get publicity for personal gain.

It really isn't that hard to believe that he he lied initially to cover up that embarrassment and then had it spiral out of control rapidly.

Who here hasn't spun a lie before where you have to keep lying so you don't get caught? Now imagine that the spotlight is on you 24/7 by the entire nation and having that pressure to keep the lie going by any means necessary. Not a pretty picture right? Don't know about you guys but I sure as hell wouldn't be chomping at the bit to fess up to all of this nonsense.

Is he guilty of terrible judgement? Absolutely, no matter what else happens at the very least he's not only naive but not the brightest bulb because there is no way this wouldn't come to light at some point. Who knows, maybe he was just hoping to ride it out another few months until after the draft and then it wouldn't really matter if it came out. While embarrassing he'd still be set for life financially.

All I'm saying is there are still plenty of unknowns here and to assume that it's automatically the worst case scenario and to absolutely destroy him the way he's been destroyed the past few days is at best premature, and at worst could be just flat out wrong.

Having said all of that I have no idea what happened and he could turn out to be the POS you guys are claiming him to be but until I see all the evidence from both sides I'm withholding judgement.

The part for me that is very telling is that he knew about the hoax at the VERY LATEST (I don't believe for one second he didn't know before that) on Dec. 6th and continued to push that story line in the public afterwards. Why? My best guess...he understood what the storyline did for his Heisman chances and his exposure during the BCS Championship game.


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Ted Bundy did charity work too...not saying Te'o's that kinda creep, but a lot of creeps hide behind a kind, compassionate front.


Yeah but we usually look past creeps that can play football. Michael Vick and Ray Lewis both seem like bigger high risk people to me and they've broken past their stigmas. Manti can play football, somebody is going to take a chance on him. I'm not even saying we necessarily SHOULD, but I could see the Seahawks being the team that does. We usually don't pass by risky bargains.


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