Rob Rang: Seattle Seahawks Spotlight

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Rob Rang: Seattle Seahawks Spotlight
Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:47 am
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Re: Rob Rang: Seattle Seahawks Spotlight
Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:23 pm
  • To everyone else, read the article. It's a good read. That said, the five players are:

    DE Sam Montgomery
    LB Sio Moore
    SS Shawn Williams
    WR Josh Boyce
    DT Kwame Geathers

    Montgomery? No. Moore? Maybe. I don't think Seattle will draft a LB early given that the WILL spot will barely see the field next year, but Moore is a good player and his speed is fringe-fast. Williams has the tools to be a Seahawks pick, but his tape is not very good, I'd hope they pass on him. Josh Boyce is a nice call in the mid-to-late rounds. He ran a 4.38 official at the combine on a broken foot. He's 5'11" 206, so he's got some bulk too. Geathers makes sense since Seattle needs a run stopper, but I'm not a fan of his. He's a no-show on tape.
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Re: Rob Rang: Seattle Seahawks Spotlight
Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:50 pm
  • The Montgomery suggestion is stunning. We're loaded with DE's now and Montgomery is a guy who admitted he took whole games off and appeared on a list of players who don't try hard enough in practise, made public to NFL scouts. If anything, he is the exact opposite of what Pete Carroll wants on this roster. Really don't get that at all.
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Re: Rob Rang: Seattle Seahawks Spotlight
Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:19 pm
  • And yet, has Rang not been THE most clued-in draft guru the last few years? Didn't he forecast 28 first round picks correctly or something a couple of years ago? This FO jas surprised all of us at every turn -maybe we need to look at these guys again to see if there is anything PC/JS would potentially like?
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Re: Rob Rang: Seattle Seahawks Spotlight
Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:30 pm
  • Thing about Montgomery is that his has amazing potential, if he got motivated (which happens at Carrol's practices) then he could be really good. He was a projected top 10 pick mid way through the college season, funny how he has fallen so far. With that said I don't think we will draft a DE unless we plan to cut Clemons.

    I could see Moore, Boyce, and Geathers as good fits. If the draft played out this way, i'd have preferred we drafted the best WR or TE available in the 2nd over Montgomery, picture Escobar, McDonald, Kelce, or Reed as a hawk. Montogomery still seems like a steal if he falls that far and pass rush can't be overlooked.
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Re: Rob Rang: Seattle Seahawks Spotlight
Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:33 pm
  • I don't see anything amazing when I watch Montgomery. If anything I think he was a media hype job that was exposed early in the draft process.
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Re: Rob Rang: Seattle Seahawks Spotlight
Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:45 pm
  • cdallan wrote:And yet, has Rang not been THE most clued-in draft guru the last few years? Didn't he forecast 28 first round picks correctly or something a couple of years ago? This FO jas surprised all of us at every turn -maybe we need to look at these guys again to see if there is anything PC/JS would potentially like?


    Rang mastered the ability to read Tim Ruskell. His picks recently have been a little off. For example, he had Seattle taking Jimmy Clausen at #6 in 2010. Last year it was De Castro nearly every week. Like most he's having trouble reading PC and JS.

    Maybe he knows something here, but personally I'd be willing to wager Montgomery isn't even on Seattle's board.
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Re: Rob Rang: Seattle Seahawks Spotlight
Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:13 pm
  • If Pete wants competitors, then he doesn't have Montgomery on his board.
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Re: Rob Rang: Seattle Seahawks Spotlight
Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:05 am
  • kearly wrote:To everyone else, read the article. It's a good read. That said, the five players are:

    DE Sam Montgomery
    LB Sio Moore
    SS Shawn Williams
    WR Josh Boyce
    DT Kwame Geathers

    Montgomery? No. Moore? Maybe. I don't think Seattle will draft a LB early given that the WILL spot will barely see the field next year, but Moore is a good player and his speed is fringe-fast. Williams has the tools to be a Seahawks pick, but his tape is not very good, I'd hope they pass on him. Josh Boyce is a nice call in the mid-to-late rounds. He ran a 4.38 official at the combine on a broken foot. He's 5'11" 206, so he's got some bulk too. Geathers makes sense since Seattle needs a run stopper, but I'm not a fan of his. He's a no-show on tape.



    Kip, Say what? We need a OLB not a WIL correct? what am I missing? Even without Hill's trouble with the law he has slowed to the point of being a liability. Seems like this would be more of an emphasis.
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Re: Rob Rang: Seattle Seahawks Spotlight
Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:10 am
  • I would be highly disappointed if we took Montgomery in the 2nd round, he does not really fit athletically in what the Seahawks want at the LEO. I like Moore and Boyce, although Boyce playing speed does not look 4.38 fast. Geathers is intriguing but I would not take him until the 6th round.
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Re: Rob Rang: Seattle Seahawks Spotlight
Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:18 pm
  • Chukarhawk wrote:
    kearly wrote:To everyone else, read the article. It's a good read. That said, the five players are:

    DE Sam Montgomery
    LB Sio Moore
    SS Shawn Williams
    WR Josh Boyce
    DT Kwame Geathers

    Montgomery? No. Moore? Maybe. I don't think Seattle will draft a LB early given that the WILL spot will barely see the field next year, but Moore is a good player and his speed is fringe-fast. Williams has the tools to be a Seahawks pick, but his tape is not very good, I'd hope they pass on him. Josh Boyce is a nice call in the mid-to-late rounds. He ran a 4.38 official at the combine on a broken foot. He's 5'11" 206, so he's got some bulk too. Geathers makes sense since Seattle needs a run stopper, but I'm not a fan of his. He's a no-show on tape.



    Kip, Say what? We need a OLB not a WIL correct? what am I missing? Even without Hill's trouble with the law he has slowed to the point of being a liability. Seems like this would be more of an emphasis.


    He's speaking to the fact that the WILL will not be a hugely important position for us next year, as most of the packages we are likely to run will not even have a WILL on the field.
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Re: Rob Rang: Seattle Seahawks Spotlight
Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:39 pm
  • Montgomery is probably my number 1 player to avoid. Does he actually do anything particularly well? He seems like just a guy with a totally unwarranted reputation
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Re: Rob Rang: Seattle Seahawks Spotlight
Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:44 pm
  • Rob Rang is an %@$%#.
    Let's just call this what it is...
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Re: Rob Rang: Seattle Seahawks Spotlight
Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:44 am
  • kigenzun wrote:Rob Rang is an %@$%#.
    Let's just call this what it is...
    East Coast no stank you.


    This doesn't make any sense to me. I mean literally I have no clue what you are even trying to say here. Can anyone translate this?
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Re: Rob Rang: Seattle Seahawks Spotlight
Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:35 pm
  • My bad.
    What I meant to say was: I completely disagree with his 'insight' into the Hawks needs, and his prognosis of our upcoming picks. If we select any of these players I will be shocked. My evidence is the lead of the article that describes that this is "#23 in a long series of articles...". He obviously hasn't studied us at any length, and appears to have no feel for PC/JS's draft system.

    All I am saying is that his analysis of our team is poor.
    But don't get me wrong, he's not all bad...
    he & I both have Kwame Geathers at approx 242-243 in our final mocks :o
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Re: Rob Rang: Seattle Seahawks Spotlight
Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:47 pm
  • If you read the Rang analysis he concludes that Montgomery will compare to low Jack. Who would want that?
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Re: Rob Rang: Seattle Seahawks Spotlight
Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:41 pm
  • kigenzun wrote:My bad.
    What I meant to say was: I completely disagree with his 'insight' into the Hawks needs, and his prognosis of our upcoming picks. If we select any of these players I will be shocked. My evidence is the lead of the article that describes that this is "#23 in a long series of articles...". He obviously hasn't studied us at any length, and appears to have no feel for PC/JS's draft system.

    All I am saying is that his analysis of our team is poor.
    But don't get me wrong, he's not all bad...
    he & I both have Kwame Geathers at approx 242-243 in our final mocks :o

    Hahahahahaha that's hilarious! If there is one guy in the media that knows the Hawks it's Rang. He's not "east coast" he's actually from the area and is a big Hawks fan.
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Re: Rob Rang: Seattle Seahawks Spotlight
Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:24 pm
  • Yeah, this guy is local.

    Although I think you are kigenzun is correct. Rang has had difficulty getting a good pulse on the guys we like. I can't knock him for that, because they trip me up all the time.

    Montgomery. Someone is going to take that guy. I hope to heaven it isn't us.
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Re: Rob Rang: Seattle Seahawks Spotlight
Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:59 pm
  • No disrespect intended, it was late and I was in near total disagreement/disbelief.
    I guess I 'assumed' he must be back east with a mock that looks like that.
    Once again, my humblest to the writer himself... but please please please not mOntgomery.
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Re: Rob Rang: Seattle Seahawks Spotlight
Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:23 pm
  • Rang's roots are local. Since he's gone national in the media, I think he's been less accurate with his analysis of the Hawks. That move pretty much coincided with the change to Carroll, though, so both probably contribute to some questionable predictions.

    We all remember (I think) how he nailed the Tatupu pick. That one alone probably sealed his rep among Seattle fans beyond what it should actually be. Now, I think of him as just another talking head for the most part.
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