2025 MARINERS Win Total Prediction

SoulfishHawk

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One day!! Will be fun to come back and look at this total. Let's hear the win total predictions. While I'm not overly optimistic, I still think the team should be better than last year overall.

MY PREDICTION: 88 WINS (UPDATED ON OPENING DAY)
 
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To do this right, we need to do this again come early September when the 53-man roster is set.

My pre-draft prediction is we get to either 9 or 10 wins... so, splitting the difference, I'll go with 9.5 wins.
 

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We have a comedian here hahahaha

This is a MARINERS prediction :)
Or somebody who woke up too early and hasn't had their coffee. LOL

(psst... I'll quietly slip away... is there a back door in this place?)
 
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I have no idea what to expect this year. Part of me says trash offense will continue other part of me says Dan and Edgar will fix the team. What scares me is within the division. They couldn't beat Anaheim last year without Trout. Well Trout is back and one of the best hitters at TMobile.
 

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Where to start...

I expect that the starting rotation will once again be very good. I don't necessarily think they'll be the best in baseball again, as that is awfully hard to sustain, but I think top 5 is very realistic.

The bullpen looks good, and I mean really good. Munoz, Santos, Brash, Troy Taylor, Sauce, Speier, Snider. That looks pretty loaded to me. I'd be surprised if this isn't a top 5 'pen.

Cal is one of the best catchers in MLB, and Garver is an adequate backup catcher.

The outfield is looking good with Julio, Arozarena, Robles, Raley, and Moore if/when needed.

The infield... Yikes.
J.P. is the only really good defensive infielder on the roster (outside of Moore who isn't an every day player at any particular position). If Polanco is actually the every day starting 3rd baseman, that's going to be a problem. He was the worst defensive 2B in MLB last year, and now they're going to ask him to play 3rd? That seems like a recipe for disaster to me. Tellez, Solano, and Bliss aren't exactly known for stellar defense either. For a team that is most likely going to be leaning heavily on pitching and defense to win games, the infield is looking pretty worrisome in my opinion. I expect that we'll probably lose a few close games over the course of the season due to poor defense from the infield.

The offense. Sure looks like they are once again hoping a bunch of guys have "bounce back" seasons (Garver, Polanco, Tellez) or can continue to produce in the twilight of their career despite the injury history (Solano).
This team needs Julio to be "star" Julio for the entire season, not just the 2nd half of the season.
They need Cal to produce similar numbers as last year (30 HR, 100 RBI's).
They need Arozarena to revert back to pre-2024 Arozarena.
They need Robles to continue to be the guy he was for half a season in Seattle, and not the guy he was for the vast majority of his first 7 seasons in the league.
They need 2023 J.P., not 2024 J.P.
Polanco. Personally, I'm not optimistic and I can't believe they brought this guy back. I just hope he isn't as horrible as he was the vast majority of last season.
Garver. Another season of sub .200 hitting from the DH spot. Cool. We don't need a guy that can actually, oh I don't know, hit a ball at the designated hitter position. Can we just put Raley at DH please?
Solano? Tellez? Bliss? Mastrobuoni? 🤷‍♂️
It sure looks like the lineup is chock-full of hopes and prayers, much more so than guys that there are good reasons to believe will be productive hitters. We're going to need a whole bunch of those hopes and prayers to work out or this could very easily be a bottom 5 offense again.

Ultimately, I think this is once again going to be a team that will only go as far as our pitching can take us. I don't have high hopes for a significantly improved offense. I just don't see any reason to believe that they'll be significantly better than last season other than blind hope that Edgar and Dan can work miracles.

Not really a prediction, but I'm thinking 85-ish wins seems the most realistic to me. Once again fighting for that 3rd wildcard spot but coming up just a bit short. I don't think this is going to change until there are actually meaningful upgrades to the offense, and I'm not seeing any of those.
 

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Well, tomorrow is opening day, and so now it's time for me to cast my negativity aside and just be a baseball fan.

I predict 90-72 and a trip to the playoffs.

Why? (1) We have the starting pitching back, and the young guns have another year under their belts. (2) We have Randy Arozarena and Victor Robles from the beginning of the season. (Along with Julio, that's a pretty good outfield.) (3) Jorge Polanco at 3rd base is a big improvement over last year, if he can regain his form. (@Chapow, Polanco is a better fit at third than he is at second.) (4) Mitch Garver can't possibly suck as much as he did last year, can he? (5) If Matt Brash is truly back, our bullpen is stellar. (6) Only a small sample size, but replacing Scott Servais and some of his staff seems like a step in the right direction. It would be nice to have a major league second baseman, but I guess you can't have everything.
 

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(3) Jorge Polanco at 3rd base is a big improvement over last year, if he can regain his form. (@Chapow, Polanco is a better fit at third than he is at second.)

What makes you think Polanco is a better fit at 3B than 2B?

He's played the vast majority of his career at SS and 2B, and he's been a below average defensive infielder at both of those positions. His career fielding percentage at SS is .959, while the league average fielding percentage at SS is .973. His career fielding percentage at 2B is .977, while the league average fielding percentage at 2B is .983.

He's also played 3B in his career, although much less than at SS or 2B. His career fielding percentage at 3B is .918, while the league average fielding percentage at 3B is .961. I'm sure you're aware, but just in case you're not, a .918 fielding percentage is incredibly bad and probably part of the reason that he's had such limited playing time at that position. MLB teams just cannot afford to have such a shockingly poor defensive player at 3B. It really can't be overstated just how bad a .918 fielding percentage is at the major league level.

He (Polanco) has been a poor defender throughout his career and recorded minus-10 Outs Above Average at second base last year -- the worst among qualified players at the position.

https://www.mlb.com/news/jorge-polanco-mariners-free-agent-contract

We've been spoiled for a long time with the defensive play at 3B. Kyle Seager, Geno, and Josh Rojas we're all very good on defense at 3B. Going from those guys to Polanco is going to be jarring for a lot of M's fans. He could very easily be the worst defensive 3B in MLB this season, just like he was the worst defensive 2B in the league last season.
 

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Wilson doesn't come across, to me, as a manager who will put up with bad defense.

I would hope not, but I can't imagine that they aren't aware of all that stuff I just posted, and yet they brought Polanco back anyway. And from every report I've seen they brought him back to play 3B. 🤷‍♂️
 
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