DK joins Lynch and Robinson on "Get Got Podcast"

[keasley45]

I get the frustration on their part. A new, defensive minded HC comes in and brings with him a POS offensive coordinator. Then that POS OC who cant coordinate his way out of a paperbag hamstrings the offense, making its star RB an afterthough, its star wr a decoy and offering its star QB little help in succeeding. Then, after the season ends, the FO fires the OC, but then wants to pay the WR and QB based in large part on how they performed under the POS OC, who was responsible for orchestrating a sh!+$how on that side if the ball. Then, on paper, the FO brings in another OC who doesnt exactly bring in any certainty or even track record of being able to do any better than anyone they've played under to date.

I would tell them to pound sand too. Cant get mad at the Hawks for having a budget. Also cant get mad at the players for being tired of the sh!+show.

 

[pittpnthrs]

At least he's got Pickens along side him to "calm him down" with Mason throwing to him lol

I don't think Pickens is happy. There is zero chance he's with Pittsburgh after next season.

 

[pittpnthrs]

I get the frustration on their part. A new, defensive minded HC comes in and brings with him a POS offensive coordinator. Then that POS OC who cant coordinate his way out of a paperbag hamstrings the offense, making its star RB an afterthough, its star wr a decoy and offering its star QB little help in succeeding. Then, after the season ends, the FO fires the OC, but then wants to pay the WR and QB based in large part on how they performed under the POS OC, who was responsible for orchestrating a sh!+$how on that side if the ball. Then, on paper, the FO brings in another OC who doesnt exactly bring in any certainty or even track record of being able to do any better than anyone they've played under to date.

I would tell them to pound sand too. Cant get mad at the Hawks for having a budget. Also cant get mad at the players for being tired of the sh!+show.

Keas,,,,,you are being pretty free with the word "star" in this post.

 

[glenwo2]

I don't think Pickens is happy. There is zero chance he's with Pittsburgh after next season.

I think Azvacar was being sarcastic.

 

[glenwo2]

I just realized something :

DK literally requested a trade bc he was all bitter about Lockett getting let go.


Now regardless of the fact that I don't buy this reason one bit, I will say that even if that is actually true, then it's a poor reason to ask out.

Plus, that reveals that he wasn't as Pro-Geno as we thought if Lockett being let go was the last straw....

 

[keasley45]

Keas,,,,,you are being pretty free with the word "star" in this post.

Really? Maybe in the eyes of some seattle fans. Im pretty sure all three will / would garner 'star' contracts elsewhere.

Either way, i get why they have little interest being paid like JAGs when the production they were measured against was in large part a function of garbage offenses.

And... its not like the prospect of maxing out perormance is assured given the lack of any guarantee that Kubiak will be significantly better. ESPECIALLY with a defensive mi ded coach who seemd happy to put the burden of winning on his defense and run game.

John and Mike want a throw back to the LOB days. - 'pedestrian' receivers (tongue planted in cheek) and a manager qb to compliment a strong ground game and defense. Not the environment to be in if you want to max your talents as a qb or wr. There's nothing wrong with it and i have been saying for years that we dont need a high powered 'Shanahan / McVay' attack or elite qb to be successful. I also get how on the heels of the garbage offneses we have been forced to run understanding NFL Waldron and Grubb, that players who want to do more with their skillset would look elsewhere for opportunity and compensation.

 

[pittpnthrs]

Really? Maybe in the eyes of some seattle fans. Im pretty sure all three will / would garner 'star' contracts elsewhere.

Either way, i get why they have little interest being paid like JAGs when the production they were measured against was in large part a function of garbage offenses.

And... its not like the prospect of maxing out perormance is assured given the lack of any guarantee that Kubiak will be significantly better. ESPECIALLY with a defensive mi ded coach who seemd happy to put the burden of winning on his defense and run game.

John and Mike want a throw back to the LOB days. - 'pedestrian' receivers (tongue planted in cheek) and a manager qb to compliment a strong ground game and defense. Not the environment to be in if you want to max your talents as a qb or wr. There's nothing wrong with it and i have been saying for years that we dont need a high powered 'Shanahan / McVay' attack or elite qb to be successful. I also get how on the heels of the garbage offneses we have been forced to run understanding NFL Waldron and Grubb, that players who want to do more with their skillset would look elsewhere for opportunity and compensation.

Not trying to stir things up, but how are you coming up with the belief that those three players will or would garner "star" contracts elsewhere when Geno is in his mid 30's and has already signed a modest three year contract with the Raiders (doubtful he'll sign another one after), DK never reaching his potential and has now signed with the Steelers who have no QB thus ever regressing stats, and an often injured RB that hasen't accomplished anything yet for anybody else to hang a contract on?

Let's be realistic. DK is the closest player to have "star" cred out of those three and he wasn't even the best WR on our team.

 

[HawkRiderFan]

Small sample size, but I made my first trip down to Seattle to see a game in person since 2019.....and sadly for me it was the Giants game. In that game, I saw the opposite of DK being used as a decoy. I was up in the 3rd level and could see what was going on downfield, it seemed to me if anything Geno was trying to force the ball into DK when it wasn't there. One 3rd down play is really in my memory where Geno had JSN open in the middle, and it was a play where he actually had time and a throwing lane. He chose to go to DK who was pretty well covered and the pass was broken up.

 

[keasley45]

Not trying to stir things up, but how are you coming up with the belief that those three players will or would garner "star" contracts elsewhere when Geno is in his mid 30's and has already signed a modest three year contract with the Raiders (doubtful he'll sign another one after), DK never reaching his potential and has now signed with the Steelers who have no QB thus ever regressing stats, and an often injured RB that hasen't accomplished anything yet for anybody else to hang a contract on?

Let's be realistic. DK is the closest player to have "star" cred out of those three and he wasn't even the best WR on our team.

Because a team run in part by Tom Brady agreed to give up a decent draft pick to acquire Smith. I dont think you give up a 3rd, pay his incentive bonus, and then turn around and offer him journeyman money.

Dk already got his 'star' bag.

And any competent offense with any semblence of run blocking woukd see K Walker among the best RBs in the league.

Folks around here are too hyper focused on individual player performance or lack thereof relative to other 'top tier', talent in the league , or relative to wins and losses, without assigning proper weight to the offenses in which those players have been required to operate. We have had literally among the leagues worst coordinators drawing up plays and calling them on sundays for three years running.

Ill draw the comparison to auto racing again. If i am a takented driver stuck on a team with a car that is, in terms of its ceiling of performance, bottom three on the grid, and i manage to get that car to finish in the top 3rd, thats a testament to my skill. If the owner of the team then turns around and tells me he doesnt want to pay me bevause i was only ever at the brink of top 3rd and not one of the top drivers, i would tell him to go F himself and find a better team to drive for. As much as inlove the Hawks, there is no way in God's green earth hou can look at the offenses we have had, who has run them, and onlines that cant block, run games that cant run schemes that hurt the passing game (and run game) more than they do anything to help it, and say the skill players on this team were put in a position to succeed.

I think history will plainly show that the reality of the situation was that our offenses had no right to even make this team as competitive as its been and that it was a handful of skill players and their abilities (when they were even relied upon) that allowed us the success we had.

 

[Ostatehawk]

At least he's got Pickens along side him to "calm him down" with Mason throwing to him lol

Now THAT needs to be on Hard Knocks.

 

[Ostatehawk]

Grass is always greener?

Don't you mean MONEY is always greener, DK?


Give me a break.

If the Seahawks had the Cap Space and paid you what you wanted, you'd be "getting to know" Sam Darnold and Kubiak right now.

You just wanted to be paid like a Top receiver.

That's all this was, imo.


And now he's on a team that still has no QB.

Have fun!

From looking at their forum it seems like they are going with Mason Rudolph as their QB 1. With some guys I've never heard of for depth.

Ouch.

 

[pittpnthrs]

Because a team run in part by Tom Brady agreed to give up a decent draft pick to acquire Smith. I dont think you give up a 3rd, pay his incentive bonus, and then turn around and offer him journeyman money.

Dk already got his 'star' bag.

And any competent offense with any semblence of run blocking woukd see K Walker among the best RBs in the league.

Folks around here are too hyper focused on individual player performance or lack thereof relative to other 'top tier', talent in the league , or relative to wins and losses, without assigning proper weight to the offenses in which those players have been required to operate. We have had literally among the leagues worst coordinators drawing up plays and calling them on sundays for three years running.

Ill draw the comparison to auto racing again. If i am a takented driver stuck on a team with a car that is, in terms of its ceiling of performance, bottom three on the grid, and i manage to get that car to finish in the top 3rd, thats a testament to my skill. If the owner of the team then turns around and tells me he doesnt want to pay me bevause i was only ever at the brink of top 3rd and not one of the top drivers, i would tell him to go F himself and find a better team to drive for. As much as inlove the Hawks, there is no way in God's green earth hou can look at the offenses we have had, who has run them, and onlines that cant block, run games that cant run schemes that hurt the passing game (and run game) more than they do anything to help it, and say the skill players on this team were put in a position to succeed.

I think history will plainly show that the reality of the situation was that our offenses had no right to even make this team as competitive as its been and that it was a handful of skill players and their abilities (when they were even relied upon) that allowed us the success we had.

Keas,,'star' QB's don't get released and picked up for 3rd round picks. Your definition of 'star' is a bit loose. DK is a top 2nd tier receiver. He should be able to take games over, but he has questionable hands, poor route running habits, and doesn't win the grab balls like he should. He won't even be the #1 on the Steelers either (Pickens). Walker needs to prove something first. I like Kenny, but he's nowhere near a 'star' RB in the league currently.

I believe history will show that Geno and DK weren't needed and the plan to move forward without overpaying them was the correct choice.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

At least he's got Pickens along side him to "calm him down" with Mason throwing to him lol

And now it's gonna be Rodgers

Costco trip for popcorn

 

[Ostatehawk]

And now it's gonna be Rodgers

Costco trip for popcorn

From you lips to God's ear - but according to "Sources" a deal is "Not eminent".

This makes me sad.

 

[Vanlandingham]

Small sample size, but I made my first trip down to Seattle to see a game in person since 2019.....and sadly for me it was the Giants game. In that game, I saw the opposite of DK being used as a decoy. I was up in the 3rd level and could see what was going on downfield, it seemed to me if anything Geno was trying to force the ball into DK when it wasn't there. One 3rd down play is really in my memory where Geno had JSN open in the middle, and it was a play where he actually had time and a throwing lane. He chose to go to DK who was pretty well covered and the pass was broken up.

I'm pretty sure DK showed his maturity level in that game if I remember correctly.

 

[Vanlandingham]

It'd be nice to have ET3 in the secondary when the Hawks meet DK in Pittsburgh, I don't think Love hits as hard ET3.

 

[Seahawkfan80]

And now it's gonna be Rodgers

Costco trip for popcorn

Is there any left?

 

[glenwo2]

"Grass is always greener", huh?




Good Luck, DK.

 

[Spin Doctor]

Because a team run in part by Tom Brady agreed to give up a decent draft pick to acquire Smith. I dont think you give up a 3rd, pay his incentive bonus, and then turn around and offer him journeyman money.

Dk already got his 'star' bag.

And any competent offense with any semblence of run blocking woukd see K Walker among the best RBs in the league.

Folks around here are too hyper focused on individual player performance or lack thereof relative to other 'top tier', talent in the league , or relative to wins and losses, without assigning proper weight to the offenses in which those players have been required to operate. We have had literally among the leagues worst coordinators drawing up plays and calling them on sundays for three years running.

Ill draw the comparison to auto racing again. If i am a takented driver stuck on a team with a car that is, in terms of its ceiling of performance, bottom three on the grid, and i manage to get that car to finish in the top 3rd, thats a testament to my skill. If the owner of the team then turns around and tells me he doesnt want to pay me bevause i was only ever at the brink of top 3rd and not one of the top drivers, i would tell him to go F himself and find a better team to drive for. As much as inlove the Hawks, there is no way in God's green earth hou can look at the offenses we have had, who has run them, and onlines that cant block, run games that cant run schemes that hurt the passing game (and run game) more than they do anything to help it, and say the skill players on this team were put in a position to succeed.

I think history will plainly show that the reality of the situation was that our offenses had no right to even make this team as competitive as its been and that it was a handful of skill players and their abilities (when they were even relied upon) that allowed us the success we had.

A third round pick for a starting QB is chump change in the grand scheme of things. They didn't have a viable QB and contract negotiations with a QB familiar to Pete Carroll came available.

Wilson went for two first, Stafford approaching his mid 30s received two first and a third, plus Jared Goff, Watson cost the Browns 3 first round draft picks despite multiple sexual assault allegations and not playing for a year.

I don't think Geno was as good as fans thought he was, myself included. It looks as if the league thinks so as well. He wasn't bad, but I wouldn't call him a "star" by any means.

 

[Hawkinaz]

Not trying to stir things up, but how are you coming up with the belief that those three players will or would garner "star" contracts elsewhere when Geno is in his mid 30's and has already signed a modest three year contract with the Raiders (doubtful he'll sign another one after), DK never reaching his potential and has now signed with the Steelers who have no QB thus ever regressing stats, and an often injured RB that hasen't accomplished anything yet for anybody else to hang a contract on?

Let's be realistic. DK is the closest player to have "star" cred out of those three and he wasn't even the best WR on our team.

I haven’t seen any reports of Geno signing a new contract with the Raiders they haven’t even introduced Geno to the local media yet