Niners averaged 9.9 yards per play against our D

[James in PA]

You read that correctly: they averaged a first down on EVERY PLAY against us today. That is disgraceful.

 

[Jerhawk]

Our guys were out there battlin' like crazy. They were clawin' and scratchin' for every inch out there. We just couldn't get it done for whatever reason.

And that starts with me. I gotta do a better job of gettin' our guys prepared. *slight mumble* You know, we're gonna look at the tape and see some things. But we're right there. Right there. We had such a good week of practice.

 

[RiverDog]

It was skewed by a couple of huge plays. We only had two less first downs than they did, so the story that stat tells is that our defense for the most part played well but got hurt badly by a handful of big plays.

 

[themunn]

I really don't think defense was the problem yesterday. In fact I thought they did a great job of getting the ball back into the offenses hands throughout the game, even if they did get burned a few times (like every other team that faces the Niners)

Sure the Niners had a couple of big big plays which tilt the average massively, but in reality they faced 11 drives (not including final clock-run drive), forced 5 punts, 2 turnovers, allowed 4 scores.

After our first drive TD our offense had 11 drives that went for:

3 yards (punt)
55 yards (FG)
6 yards (punt)
28 yards (punt)
3 yards (end of half - Lock with a boneheaded illegal forward pass killing the drive on the first play)
9 yards (punt)
16 yards (punt)
78 yards (Td)
0 yards (interception)
29 yards (punt)
27 yards (interception)

Somehow we averaged 6 yards per play (so a 1st down every 2nd play). So why is it that outside of 2 scoring drives we had 9 drives averaging just 13.4 yards.

Honestly I think we win yesterday if we have Cowboys Geno playing

 

[CalgaryFan05]

I really don't think defense was the problem yesterday. In fact I thought they did a great job of getting the ball back into the offenses hands throughout the game, even if they did get burned a few times (like every other team that faces the Niners)

Sure the Niners had a couple of big big plays which tilt the average massively, but in reality they faced 11 drives (not including final clock-run drive), forced 5 punts, 2 turnovers, allowed 4 scores.

After our first drive TD our offense had 11 drives that went for:

3 yards (punt)
55 yards (FG)
6 yards (punt)
28 yards (punt)
3 yards (end of half - Lock with a boneheaded illegal forward pass killing the drive on the first play)
9 yards (punt)
16 yards (punt)
78 yards (Td)
0 yards (interception)
29 yards (punt)
27 yards (interception)

Somehow we averaged 6 yards per play (so a 1st down every 2nd play). So why is it that outside of 2 scoring drives we had 9 drives averaging just 13.4 yards.

Honestly I think we win yesterday if we have Cowboys Geno playing

I thought Lock did pretty good. Couple of brain farts - but overall - pretty good.

 

[EverydayImRusselin]

It was skewed by a couple of huge plays. We only had two less first downs than they did, so the story that stat tells is that our defense for the most part played well but got hurt badly by a handful of big plays.

20, 23, 25, 25, 27, 30, 44, 45, and 54 yards. That's not a couple huge plays. That's a huge play every 6th play.

 

[themunn]

20, 23, 25, 25, 27, 30, 44, 45, and 54 yards. That's not a couple huge plays. That's a huge play every 6th play.

21,31,23,23,20,27,26,25,24

Same number of big plays, only 220 yards vs 293 but if "big play percentage" is what you're looking at, not much between it.

The problem for us is that there wasn't much going except for those big plays. 220 yards from 9 plays, 119 yards from the other 46 (less if you net off sack yardage really)

 

[EverydayImRusselin]

21,31,23,23,20,27,26,25,24

Same number of big plays, only 220 yards vs 293 but if "big play percentage" is what you're looking at, not much between it.

The problem for us is that there wasn't much going except for those big plays. 220 yards from 9 plays, 119 yards from the other 46 (less if you net off sack yardage really)

They still averaged over 5 yards per play when we remove the huge plays. My original point is the defense sucked, even if you removed the huge plays.

 

[nwHawk]

The difference is they could run and the Hawks CONTINUE to have ZERO CHANCE at running the ball.

Run first team my ###.

 

[Fade]

It was skewed by a couple of huge plays. We only had two less first downs than they did, so the story that stat tells is that our defense for the most part played well but got hurt badly by a handful of big plays.

Now is not the time to damage control, but to put their feet to the fire. They are one of the 5 worst defenses in football. AGAIN.

 

[Ozzy]

Now is not the time to damage control, but to put their feet to the fire. They are one of the 5 worst defenses in football. AGAIN.

Bottom 5 will having one of the most expensive defenses investment wise in all of football

 

[RiverDog]

Now is not the time to damage control, but to put their feet to the fire. They are one of the 5 worst defenses in football. AGAIN.

I wasn't attempting "damage control." I was simply noting a fact, that the yards per play stat was heavily skewed by a handful of huge chunk plays.

Unfortunately, we are one of the 5 worst defenses in the league, at least in terms of total yards.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Diggs looks like he doesn't even care out there. I'm not saying he doesn't, it just looks like he's going thru the motions. He is BRUTAL.
Got his $ and seems to be content.

 

[hoxrox]

Diggs looks like he doesn't even care out there. I'm not saying he doesn't, it just looks like he's going thru the motions. He is BRUTAL.
Got his $ and seems to be content.

He should have never been given that contract after his injury. Hasn't been good since. Another JS overpay.

 

[morgulon1]

Interesting thread. Both sides are compelling IMHO.

I do think the roster is underachieving.
I think it starts at coaching.

 

[ronnieboycefanclub]

Watching the run from the first play. I thought if I had joined a few minutes late, I might have thought it was a kick off return and a player making a feeble attempt at tackling was the kicker.

 

[renofox]

Watching the run from the first play. I thought if I had joined a few minutes late, I might have thought it was a kick off return and a player making a feeble attempt at tackling was the kicker.

Imagine my surprise when I tuned on a couple minutes late and the 49ers had 7 points with over 14:00 on the clock.

I knew it wasn't a.return TD because there was too much time off the clock.

When I finally saw the clip, I almost .

 

[nanomoz]

Even when the Hawks were up 10-7, it felt like the Niners were a housecat playing with its food. I never had any doubt that they'd pull away as the game progressed.

 

[Fade]

It gets worse. When you factor out the kneel downs at the end of the game. The Seahawks surrendered over 10 yards per play.

 

[Fade]

Bottom 5 will having one of the most expensive defenses investment wise in all of football

I have a thread upcoming, that will show how bad it is.