hawkfan68
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At this point, I'm not sure Norwood is a lock to make the top 53. Bates seems to have opened some eyes. Lockette is a great special teams player. It may be a case of stashing him for next year by putting him on IR.
Basis4day":10kzk2vo said:Why do people still respond to Tokadub's posts as if they're serious?
[urltargetblank]http://www.fieldgulls.com/2014/8/6/5975871/kevin-norwood-injury-seahawks-nfl-preseason[/urltargetblank]"It was a real nagging situation that we just didn't want him to try and tough it out," Carroll said. "He could tough it out - he has in the past. We want to try and fix him and get him right. We think it will be a very quick recovery and he could make it back by the end of (pre-season). We'll have to wait and see how it works out. We're glad to fix him the guy has been playing with a lot of pain he just sucks it up and goes through, but we figured out how to help him."
Down a different avenue here.Jville":2nmvg1h1 said:
[urltargetblank]http://www.fieldgulls.com/2014/8/6/5975871/kevin-norwood-injury-seahawks-nfl-preseason[/urltargetblank]"It was a real nagging situation that we just didn't want him to try and tough it out," Carroll said. "He could tough it out - he has in the past. We want to try and fix him and get him right. We think it will be a very quick recovery and he could make it back by the end of (pre-season). We'll have to wait and see how it works out. We're glad to fix him the guy has been playing with a lot of pain he just sucks it up and goes through, but we figured out how to help him."
seedhawk":h8jux0qk said:Situations like this are the perfect example of why the NFL needs to change it's rules regarding injured players. The league needs a 15 or 30 day disabled list. Player stays with the team, no waivers etc. You can then fill their roster spot with another player for the short term duration. At the end of the either 15 or 30 day window they either go back to the active roster, get released, or to IR.
Seafan":3vfsmppn said:seedhawk":3vfsmppn said:Situations like this are the perfect example of why the NFL needs to change it's rules regarding injured players. The league needs a 15 or 30 day disabled list. Player stays with the team, no waivers etc. You can then fill their roster spot with another player for the short term duration. At the end of the either 15 or 30 day window they either go back to the active roster, get released, or to IR.
The expansion of the roster from 45 to 53 and practice squads was done to address this. Injured players are made inactive. The old IR system was being abused.
Jville":exeetqiz said:Anyone wonder why Norwood was used sparingly at Alabama?
The productivity of these kids out of Alabama has been rather limited.
I can not help but question if there is something to be reviewed and learned there.
Tical21":3gio2dyu said:Tokadub":3gio2dyu said:I would probably put money on Norwood playing more games than Harvin this season based on the current evidence and history.
From your reply, I'll take it to mean that you in fact would not put money on Norwood playing more games than Harvin this season based on the current evidence and history.
DavidSeven":302k1t9m said:The real interesting question will be whether the team thinks he's shown enough to warrant a Final 53 spot. What if Lockette and Bates blow up in the preseason? Could you then justify cutting one of them to hold a spot for a 4th round WR who didn't play or practice?
My hunch is he makes the team, but things are going to get interesting if some dark-horses really shine in pre-season (e.g. Stephen Williams last year).
Tokadub":yzjceuf5 said:So you guys are basing all this gloom and doom based off what Clayton said? No offense but he's wrong A LOT.
I don't believe this for one second, Norwood just has a sore foot big F'N deal. Why waste his talents in the pre-season when he could rest and start against Green Bay week 1.
I really am not getting the impression that Norwood is seriously injured AT ALL, if someone has some sources and links which support this theory please link them. Right now you sound like a bunch of negative Nancys freaking out about speculation guess jokes.
I'm much more concerned about our O-Line and Harvin staying healthy. If Norwood is really significantly injured already this pick was a total bust and would explain why nobody else picked him up given how good he looks on the field.
I still think he's ok probably just a little swelling and sore, there's no reason to force him to play next practice.
mjwhitay":yzjceuf5 said:Basis4day":yzjceuf5 said:Why do people still respond to Tokadub's posts as if they're serious?
This. X 10000000
XxXdragonXxX":yzjceuf5 said:John Clayton is wrong again...
Tokadub":kt0rd1l8 said:Oh also, if Norwood doesn't make the team that would be a huge blow to our offense.
In addition, I've recently seen some "expert" write an article predicting the Seahawks would only keep 5 Wide Receivers. I think this is the WORST and LEAST LIKELY PREDICTION YOU COULD MAKE ON OUR WHOLE ROSTER...
We NEED 6 receivers period. The only guy I'm counting on 100% is Baldwin.
- Baldwin is the man, just like Tate used to be for us. It's very unlikely that he'll be hurt. Very likely he will be consistently productive.
- Harvin is likely to miss some games
- Kearse is a bit lucky so far to be so clutch in big moments considering how bad his hands are.
- Lockette should make the team for special teams and speed.
- Phil Bates seems to be having a hot training camp and could be competitive for the 6th spot.
- Richardson is pretty small and not entirely polished for the NFL level, most likely not an every down type of guy in my opinion. Will be a big play or "special" play specialist, in some cases used as a decoy.
- Norwood could be an every down type of guy, he looks like a rookie ready to jump right into the NFL if I've ever seen one. Should be taking the place of Sidney Rice which Kearse was previously doing but I think Norwood is better.
So where in these 7 guys do we see a possibility to have only 5 wide receivers? Shaking my head...
With Harvin being such a big part of our offense it is literally a requirement that we keep at least 6 Wide Recievers. I think anyone who predicts otherwise is bat nuts crazy...
And Norwood should ideally be our #3 guy behind Harvin and Baldwin. So if Norwood doesn't make the team and start week 1 that would be a huge blow to our offense in my opinion.
Pandion Haliaetus":2iob08s0 said:Tokadub, my buddy.
I like that you have to pat yourself on the back because no one is going to do it for you.
Harvin isn't more injury prone than Baldwin. Harvin is also bigger and stronger.
Kearse isn't lucky, the guy showed some serious ball skills last season and in his 2nd season he practically had the same Catch% at 59.2% that Golden "All Hands" Tate had at 60.3% and much better than Baldwin's 2nd season in which he had 55%.In fact if you include post-season numbers Kearse had a better 2nd season than either Tate or Baldwin. The guy has talent and is only going to get better.
Richardson isn't that much smaller than your boy Norwood. Richardson is 6-0, 185-190 pounds right now. Norwood is 6'2, 200... so if 2 inches, 10-15 pounds is that much bigger, I don't see it... Also in terms of upper body strength Norwood doesn't look that much stronger. They both look to have a similar builds.
I also like Norwood he does a lot of things well but the truth of the matter is. He's not proven, he's not going to start, if he makes the team, he would likely be the 6th WR and inactive.
Pandion Haliaetus":1zok6uzt said:Harvin isn't more injury prone than Baldwin. Harvin is also bigger and stronger.
Kearse isn't lucky, the guy showed some serious ball skills last season and in his 2nd season he practically had the same Catch% at 59.2% that Golden "All Hands" Tate had in 2nd Year at 60.3% and much better than "Clutch"Baldwin's 2nd season in which he had 55%.In fact if you include post-season numbers Kearse had a better 2nd season than either Tate or Baldwin. The guy has talent and is only going to get better.
Richardson isn't that much smaller than your boy Norwood. Richardson is 6-0, 185-190 pounds right now. Norwood is 6'2, 200... so if 2 inches, 10-15 pounds is that much bigger, I don't see it... Also in terms of upper body strength Norwood doesn't look that much stronger. They both look to have a similar builds.
I also like Norwood he does a lot of things well but the truth of the matter is. He's not proven, he's not going to start, if he makes the team, he would likely be the 6th WR and inactive.
Top 6 Seahawks Recievers (right now)
1. Harvin
2. Baldwin
3. Kearse
4. Miller
5. Willson
6. Lynch
Everyone else are pretty much just role players.
Pandion Haliaetus":1zok6uzt said:I also like Norwood he does a lot of things well but the truth of the matter is. He's not proven, he's not going to start, if he makes the team, he would likely be the 6th WR and inactive.
Pandion Haliaetus":1zok6uzt said:We'll see... but I think in the end in terms of keeping 5 WRs... Stephen Williams is more valuable that Doug Baldwin. Chris Harper is more valuable than Doug Baldwin.
Pandion Haliaetus":1zok6uzt said:Top 6 Seahawks Recievers (right now)
1. Harvin
2. Baldwin
3. Kearse
4. Miller
5. Willson
6. Lynch
Everyone else are pretty much just role players.
Pandion Haliaetus":3h4liz1g said:Harvin isn't more injury prone than Baldwin. Harvin is also bigger and stronger.
Great news. Can't wait to see a Norwoom Bates combo near the goal line. We would have blown out the Saints again hat we had more physical receivers near the goal line. Our offense could be just as dominant as the D.KitsapGuy":2ukonu9u said:Stephen Cohen @scohenPI 3m
WR Kevin Norwood had a bone spur removed from his foot yesterday. Could be back by end of camp. #Seahawks