PSA for our most idealistic and vocal pessimists

NFSeahawks

New member
Joined
Sep 13, 2009
Messages
4,714
Reaction score
0
BirdsCommaAngry":3g39w8g4 said:
Fake, as you're defining the word and at this current point in time, would be pretending that excessive criticism is beneficial. We're more than capable of critiquing without ignoring the context of the season, pointlessly blasting one of the best teams in the league, or oversimplifying it all into categories like good and bad.


... What would be the point of one pointlessly blasting the team? Just to do it? To troll? Sounds stupid.

Like I said in my previous post you take the good with the bad, sure were 5-1 and its incredibly awesome to see we currently sit in the 1st/2nd seed in the NFC. The point is we haven't arrived where we want to be and the team can still play better football, i.e. improve the offense, be more consistent on the road, do better on 3rd down offense and defense etc. To sit at 5-1 and just glorify a team that still has a lot of work before it's considered one of the best all time or even a real super bowl threat is silly. Need to be objective about things see the big picture, a lot of teams finished the season with 13-3/14-2 record and failed to do anything in the playoffs, its about becoming that team that can win, when things don't go your way, (which weve shown we can do) but always having room for improvement. Then once we get really good we improve even more.
 

plyka

New member
Joined
Oct 14, 2010
Messages
1,342
Reaction score
0
BirdsCommaAngry":3foyyyg5 said:
One of my favorite books is The Talent Code. It's a book about the finer nuances of coaching and teaching, and their affect on the development of talent in a person's brain chemistry. The author, Daniel Coyle, dabbles in research in regard to violinists, singers, collegiate QBs, and several other competitive professions. In regard to the motivations behind our pessimists, which range anywhere from seemingly logical ideas like not being able to solve a problem until we emphatically state that we do in fact have this specific problem, having high ideals about demanding excellence day-in and day-out, and the like, this book derives a simple conclusion about that mindset. To put it simply:

Right now, you're just not helping.

Yes, there are some of us who are merely venting frustrations to feel better and I certainly don't disagree with using an internet forum to satisfy this notion (it would nice if you guys specified when you're doing this though..), but there are also those who are griping with a perceived purpose of improving the team through a form of fan dissatisfaction. This, of course, is well within one's right to do but it's also well within one's right to tell you that it doesn't work.

The noted trend covered in The Talent Code with increasing performance through criticism and praise was criticism was vital but only in heavy moderation. Regardless of the skill in question, people improved more quickly when they were praised ~3 times as much as they were criticized and that such criticism only be done in a manner that was largely emotionless and matter-of-fact (as in the opposite of talking about how the Seahawks issues in weeks 1-6 will directly result in a play-off loss). This trend occurs because the human psyche must maintain a balance of confidence and caution to be at pique performance and one statement of negativity makes a much greater impression than one positive statement. In other words, if what was currently being said on this forum were to have an affect on our team's performance, it would serve to only hinder them.

You guys can certainly say what you like, do what you feel, and believe what you want, but if you're to help ensure the best season possible, it would behoove us all to speak nicely, find that silver lining (which is pretty easy at 5-1), criticize seldom and without worry, and simply enjoy what could still be one of the best seasons this franchise has ever had. This concludes your Public Service Announcement.

What in god's name are you talking about here? You do understand, don't you, that fan disatisfaction or satisfaction has absoluely ZERO effect on the team. YOu understand that people claiming the team sucks on this board has absolutely ZERO effect on the team? We are not the coaches. If we are the coaches, your point MAY have some merit. If we are the players, you point MAY have some merit. Otherwise it is so misguided as to be comical.

BirdsCommaAngry":3foyyyg5 said:
No, I'm afraid what we say here does have an effect. It might not be much and it might not even be enough to matter, but it's there. Did you know that most home-field advantage, with the exception of places like CLink, Arrowhead, and Mile High, is basically created entirely by conscious and unconscious referee bias? Yeah, booing the refs makes them less likely to throw the flag against the home team. Fans slightly affect the outcomes of games and if the forum can affect fans, then the forum can affect the game. This stuff isn't hard, guys!

It obviously is difficult, because you sould like a raving lunatic.

Smelly McUgly":3foyyyg5 said:
razgriz737":3foyyyg5 said:
There are 44 active threads on the first page of the main forum as I am posting this.
5 or 6 of those threads are either saying there is too much negativity or we should all be happy, or something of that nature.
If I'm being generous, there are like 4 threads that are overwhelmingly negative.

Can we stop acting like this board is being torn apart by negativity and pessimism? Any hyper-criticism we're seeing is mostly relegated to the threads mentioned above, and there is a lot of genuinely good discussion taking place in those threads as well.

The LA-LA-LA-LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU brigade that can't dare to hear any criticism of their favorite team just can't emotionally handle acting like that, however. They're too busy building themselves back up by pretending to be better fans than anyone that dares criticize the Seahawks.

You hit the nail on the head here. They don't want to see anything negative regarding their team so they have to grasp comically to find some justification for why it's ok to stick your head in the sand. I just never imagined it would be taken to such depths.
 

ClumsyLurk

New member
Joined
Jul 26, 2012
Messages
1,738
Reaction score
0
This thread is pretty ridiculous. Wth was it in 2009 in the year of our Mora?
 
Top