Ok keep standing on the Geno bridge I guess? All I know is through 12 games played 15TD, 9INT, 3Fumbles, and bad sacks when he just needs to throw it away! Those numbers are pathetic! I'm sorry maybe I stand on my own bridge by myself, but those numbers are not near good enough for QB. He don't have to necessarily throw 40TD a year, but man you have to protect the ball if you want to win in the NFL.There is literally nothing whatsoever about how the QB situation has been handled that indicates the death of a focus on competition. Nothing.
Don't feel alone. I'm right beside you on the Bridge to Nowhere.Ok keep standing on the Geno bridge I guess? All I know is through 12 games played 15TD, 9INT, 3Fumbles, and bad sacks when he just needs to throw it away! Those numbers are pathetic! I'm sorry maybe I stand on my own bridge by myself, but those numbers are not near good enough for QB. He don't have to necessarily throw 40TD a year, but man you have to protect the ball if you want to win in the NFL.
I wouldn't expect anyone to come in and "ball out" against the best Defenses in the league
This is a good point if you remove literally every ounce of context from the respective situations the team was facing.In both of their most recent starts, they got the ball late in the fourth, needing to go the length of the field for a TD. One of them lead a 92-yard drive. The other turned the ball over on downs midfield.
Geno is a top 10-15th QB
That's about where I'd place him, too, and indeed, PFF has him ranked #16 just below you know who (I didn't want to divert the thread).top 10? No.
Top 15, maybe.
top 10? No.
Top 15, maybe.
I don't think anyone was spouting top-5 outside of saying that he's capable of that level of play in spurts under perfect conditions.Quite a drop from the top 5 people were spouting last year...oof.
I don't think anyone was spouting top-5 outside of saying that he's capable of that level of play in spurts under perfect conditions.
I don't think anyone was spouting top-5 outside of saying that he's capable of that level of play in spurts under perfect conditions.
Hell, he can do it for short spurts under worse conditions. He turned in a top 5 performance in the very last game he played.
Are you talking about "people," or is this a fringe case where like a single person was just saying wrong things?Uhhh....people were quoting how his stats put him in the top 3 even last year mainly the first 3/4s of the season before running into the Niners 3 times and the Rams.
I don't think anyone was spouting top-5 outside of saying that he's capable of that level of play in spurts under perfect conditions.
Hell, he can do it for short spurts under worse conditions. He turned in a top 5 performance in the very last game he played.
This is also what I hate about stats. There's a lot of missing story there.Are you talking about "people," or is this a fringe case where like a single person was just saying wrong things?
Because that is absolutely not reflective of any sort of popular viewpoint here.
His stats DID put him into the top 3 in many regards initially, but I really did not see many people saying "Geno Smith is a top-3 overall caliber talent in the current NFL." I wasn't even saying that. One of those statements is just basic fact based on our limited statistics, and the other is a total evaluation.
I remember this and a lot of the critics for Geno were mentioning he was not playing good defenses yet and then the drop off game in the second half and play offs when the Rams and Niners were in the mix. One can view it as a drop-off, another can view it as being exposed.Geno was playing like a top 5 QB in the 1st half of last year, to the tune of getting some MVP buzz.
I remember this and a lot of the critics for Geno were mentioning he was not playing good defenses yet and then the drop off game in the second half and play offs when the Rams and Niners were in the mix. One can view it as a drop-off, another can view it as being exposed.
Or you can view it as Brock Huard does, and acknowledge that Geno has had one of the worst running games in the league this year, and worked with one that was comparable over the 2nd half of last year. We saw 8 games or so with our offense functioning as it should, with a reliable running game and solid protection. The numbers don't lie. If there wasn't such a sharp and obvious correlation between when Geno was best and not, and when our running game and blocking were effective / actually used logically and not, I'd be with you that he's on a downward slope.I remember this and a lot of the critics for Geno were mentioning he was not playing good defenses yet and then the drop off game in the second half and play offs when the Rams and Niners were in the mix. One can view it as a drop-off, another can view it as being exposed.