hawkfan68
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kf3339":1m4mac35 said:hawkfan68":1m4mac35 said:Sun Tzu":1m4mac35 said:How does anything Clowney has done in regards to these negotiations make him an a$$hole?jmahon316":1m4mac35 said:At this point, if he actually wanted to play for the Hawks, he would've taken a 1-2 year deal to prove his worth while playing for a championship caliber team (Your words, Jadeveon) and have another chance at resetting the market. At this point I agree with Sgt. Largent that Clowney is dragging his feet, and I'd bet that if we move on at this point, he'd take a lesser deal to "stick it" to the Hawks next year.
Clowney: Sh!t or get off the pot, a$$hole.
I have requested time to make a decision while weighing multiple offers, and let each firm with an offer on the table know that sweetening their offer might get a deal done. Does that make me an a$$hole? I have had many applicants, and employees who have done the same to me. I never took it personally. I suspect anyone who has knowledge, skills, or experience that is valuable to an organization has done the same. I imagine that the only individuals who do not understand this are those who have no valuable knowledge, skills, or experience to offer, and are therefore left with no option but to take what they can get.
How does the fact that he hasn't signed yet indicate he doesn't want to play for the Hawks?
Again, drawing from my personal experience, I have worked at a firm that I loved; I loved everything about the firm, the people, the community, the clients, the work. A firm half way across the country came calling with an offer that I felt was too good to pass up; I left to go work for the other firm (again, I suspect that many on here have done something similar at some point). It didn't mean that I didn't want to work for the first firm, it just meant I was at a point in my life when money was more important to me than the other stuff. Now the other stuff is more important to me. Everyone has different priorities, who are we to judge someone else's priorities. Clowney has had a disappointing and unlucky off-season. I hope that he is a Seahawk at the end of this off-season, but if not, I wish him the best.
Well said. You have summed up my thoughts exactly. Can't blame a player for taking his time and due diligence in getting the best deal.
I don't think you blame the man for wanted to take his time. But you don't wait him out and risk all other DE options are taken and leave the cupboard bare if he ends up leaving. It kinda feels that is what were doing right now.
The fact the Seahawks are waiting is not at all Clowney's fault. They probably aren't waiting (this is pure speculation on people's part). They are doing their due diligence just like he is. The Seahawks FO wants to win the Superbowl not Offseason FA bowl. The Browns seem to do win the offseason each year with very little to show for it once the season arrives.
I'd rather they not trade for Ngakoue. He's not worth it in my opinion. Plus it's not just a trade, you have to sign him to a contract as well. He's not going to sign for $15-16M/yr either. Clowney is an overall better player than Ngakoue. The only thing that Yannick does better than Jadaveon is sacks. That is a result of having to play alongside Calais Campbell, Marcel Dareus, etc. Furthermore, he only had 5 games last season where he registered 1+ sacks - https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/2078920/yannick-ngakoue. He doesn't deserve $15-20M either (IMO).