Scot McCloughan?

[toffee]

Scot is well known for his drinking problems, but he is also well known for his expertise in scouting and drafting. He was GM for 9ers and Redskins, this chart were the players that he drafted as a GM

He didn't miss much on drafting OL, Adam Snyder lasted 9 years in the league, Joe Staley was a 3 time all-pro, Brandon Scherff an all-pro, and Arie Kouandjio a journeyman. Scot didn't draft too many linemen, and he lucked into drafting most of them in first round, but hey, teams drafted plenty of busts in first round too.

Schneider was a friend of McCloughan, but somehow their friendship took a hit at some point. Maybe time for Schneider to reach out to Scot?

49ers

Redskins

2005

2006

2007

2015

2016

1

Alex Smith *

QB

1

Vernon Davis *

TE

1

Patrick Willis * †

LB

1

Brandon Scherff

OT

1

Josh Doctson

WR

2

David Baas

C

1

Manny Lawson

LB

1

Joe Staley *

OT

2

Preston Smith

DE

2

Su'a Cravens

ILB

3

Frank Gore *

RB

3

Brandon Williams

WR

3

Jason Hill

WR

3

Matt Jones

RB

3

Kendall Fuller

CB

3

Adam Snyder

G

4

Michael Robinson *

RB

3

Ray McDonald

DE

3

Jamison Crowder

WR

4

5

Ronald Fields

DT

5

Parys Haralson

DE

4

Jay Moore

DE

4

Arie Kouandjio

G

5

Matt Ioannidis

DE

5

Rasheed Marshall

WR

6

Delanie Walker *

TE

4

Dashon Goldson *

S

5

Martrell Spaight

LB

6

Nate Sudfeld

QB

6

Derrick Johnson

CB

6

Marcus Hudson

S

4

Joe Cohen

DE

5

Kyshoen Jarrett

S

7

Steven Daniels

LB

7

Daven Holly

CB

6

Melvin Oliver

DE

5

Tarell Brown

CB

5

Tevin Mitchel

CB

7

Keith Marshall

RB

7

Marcus Maxwell

WR

7

Vickiel Vaughn

S

6

Thomas Clayton

RB

6

Evan Spencer

WR

7

Patrick Estes

TE

7

Austin Reiter

CB

7

Billy Bajema

TE

 

[seabowl]

Has had a lot of personal issues, hence why he has fallen out of favor

 

[Boycie]

Has had a lot of personal issues, hence why he has fallen out of favor

So because you have had issues in the past means you don't get another opportunity? What if he has cleaned up his act?

 

[Seahawk_Dan]

So because you have had issues in the past means you don't get another opportunity? What if he has cleaned up his act?

From what I know about JS, he’s a very clean guy. No drugs or alcohol. Scot may have been a friend, but his personal demon of alcoholism could’ve been too much.

I’ve heard Scot is cleaned up and sober, but I doubt JS ever brings him in. Only way I see McCloughan comes back is if JS is gone and he’s made GM.

 

[toffee]

From what I know about JS, he’s a very clean guy. No drugs or alcohol. Scot may have been a friend, but his personal demon of alcoholism could’ve been too much.

I’ve heard Scot is cleaned up and sober, but I doubt JS ever brings him in. Only way I see McCloughan comes back is if JS is gone and he’s made GM.

I wouldn't want scot as GM, but open to have him as as a consultant or scout.

 

[chris98251]

He has a service, he helps other teams as a consultant already.

 

[King Dog]

He's wayyyyyyyyyyy better than anyone we have

 

[Subzero717]

From what I know about JS, he’s a very clean guy. No drugs or alcohol. Scot may have been a friend, but his personal demon of alcoholism could’ve been too much.

I’ve heard Scot is cleaned up and sober, but I doubt JS ever brings him in. Only way I see McCloughan comes back is if JS is gone and he’s made GM.

Then you don't know very much

 

[toffee]

Scot or some other scouts, just that our current college scout for OL has been bad to very bad.

 

[chris98251]

Scot or some other scouts, just that our current college scout for OL has been bad to very bad.

No, we seem to want the opposite of what we bring in, our lineman get cut move on and many have good careers. Not the scouting, it's how we want to use them, we get guys that are road graders but scheme says a guy that can pull, next coach we want guys that can pull and pass block but puts road grader system in place with guys light in the ass end but quicker.

 

[toffee]

No, we seem to want the opposite of what we bring in, our lineman get cut move on and many have good careers. Not the scouting, it's how we want to use them, we get guys that are road graders but scheme says a guy that can pull, next coach we want guys that can pull and pass block but puts road grader system in place with guys light in the ass end but quicker.

Good points!

 

[HawkinNY]

I wouldn't want scot as GM, but open to have him as as a consultant or scout.

Yea Scot wasn’t a good GM. To many demons. But really he was behind SF and Seattles success in their drafts. John has gotten somewhat better past couple years. But he still is god awful at lineman.

 

[toffee]

Yea Scot wasn’t a good GM. To many demons. But really he was behind SF and Seattles success in their drafts. John has gotten somewhat better past couple years. But he still is god awful at lineman.

The offense linemen that Scot drafted were pretty good, can't say that about Schneider.

 

[chris98251]

Yea Scot wasn’t a good GM. To many demons. But really he was behind SF and Seattles success in their drafts. John has gotten somewhat better past couple years. But he still is god awful at lineman.

Scot was in Washington with Snyder and Allen, he was torpedoed from the get go, they were just trying to find out why he was so successful but wanted him to really have no authority.