kearly":2w2sxqlp said:Sowell did play well, but then again he was facing off against... Frank Zombo. Context is everything.
Thepeelsessions":1crlj9bw said:How did Fant, Hunt, and Poole look during their field time?
BASF":991ez0kx said:Thepeelsessions":991ez0kx said:How did Fant, Hunt, and Poole look during their field time?
I can't say too much about Hunt or Poole, but Fant was very conspicuous with very little push in the run game, slow feet in pass blocking and not keeping a block for more than two seconds. He was standing around a lot a few feet away from the action while the other guys were actually engaged in the play.
Actually the goal is to control the ball in the 4th quarter. If we're behind, to score quickly and then get it back, and if we're ahead to take all the time off the clock so the opponent can't come back.hawknation2016":3ad5ta6n said:The ideal Carroll offense is a perfect 50-50 balance of running and passing. In comparison to the rest of the pass-heavy NFL, it is a running offense, but balance remains the goal. The offensive line has to be able to both run and pass block.
KiwiHawk":162sd8qi said:Actually the goal is to control the ball in the 4th quarter. If we're behind, to score quickly and then get it back, and if we're ahead to take all the time off the clock so the opponent can't come back.hawknation2016":162sd8qi said:The ideal Carroll offense is a perfect 50-50 balance of running and passing. In comparison to the rest of the pass-heavy NFL, it is a running offense, but balance remains the goal. The offensive line has to be able to both run and pass block.
With that in mind, the possibilities for the 4th quarter are:
We're behind by a truckload
We're behind by a little
We're tied
We're ahead by a little
We're ahead by a truckload
In all but the first instance, it behooves us to control the ball and run out the clock either as an end in and of itself, or en route to a score. Only in the first instance is impact of an effective running game minimized. Even then, if we have been running the ball effectively during the game there will have been less time in the game and therefore fewer scoring opportunities for the opposition, limiting the amount they could be ahead.
So when I speak of a "run-first" offense, it's not about balance, but about emphasis. Our line blocks. Our receivers block. Our QB can run. Everything goes into progressing the football without stopping the clock, because we can always elect to stop the clock if we need to, but we can't make the clock run without running the ball.
The ultimate goal is to finish every game with possession of the football on offense, because if you can do that, you control your destiny. You can score, or prevent an opponent from scoring.
Minnesota is a run first offense while Seattle is a balanced offense. Teddy Bridgewater isn't going to win many games passing it 30 times a game while for Wilson that's below his typical average which should be around 35 pass attempts a game going forward. And he can and does attempt that many passes and wins consistently.KiwiHawk":gwkyaea0 said:Actually the goal is to control the ball in the 4th quarter. If we're behind, to score quickly and then get it back, and if we're ahead to take all the time off the clock so the opponent can't come back.hawknation2016":gwkyaea0 said:The ideal Carroll offense is a perfect 50-50 balance of running and passing. In comparison to the rest of the pass-heavy NFL, it is a running offense, but balance remains the goal. The offensive line has to be able to both run and pass block.
With that in mind, the possibilities for the 4th quarter are:
We're behind by a truckload
We're behind by a little
We're tied
We're ahead by a little
We're ahead by a truckload
In all but the first instance, it behooves us to control the ball and run out the clock either as an end in and of itself, or en route to a score. Only in the first instance is impact of an effective running game minimized. Even then, if we have been running the ball effectively during the game there will have been less time in the game and therefore fewer scoring opportunities for the opposition, limiting the amount they could be ahead.
So when I speak of a "run-first" offense, it's not about balance, but about emphasis. Our line blocks. Our receivers block. Our QB can run. Everything goes into progressing the football without stopping the clock, because we can always elect to stop the clock if we need to, but we can't make the clock run without running the ball.
The ultimate goal is to finish every game with possession of the football on offense, because if you can do that, you control your destiny. You can score, or prevent an opponent from scoring.
What??? Who's this Bradley Sowell guy you guys are talking about???EverydayImRusselin":2j8t3jtm said:Kudos. You really nailed that bargain FA pick. I don't recall who it was or else I'd give a shout out.
Thanks guys! I hope Sowell gets another start. Sounds like he's earned it. Too bad about Fant though. I hope he can get coached up. After all, it was his first ever football game. He has the measureables and tools to be a quality prospect at OT. I'm really hoping to see extended time for Hunt and Poole this weekend.hawknation2016":36vh9lph said:BASF":36vh9lph said:Thepeelsessions":36vh9lph said:How did Fant, Hunt, and Poole look during their field time?
I can't say too much about Hunt or Poole, but Fant was very conspicuous with very little push in the run game, slow feet in pass blocking and not keeping a block for more than two seconds. He was standing around a lot a few feet away from the action while the other guys were actually engaged in the play.
Yeah, I agree, Fant looked as awkward as one might expect from a non-football player taking his first snaps in the big league. Still a good looking athlete who might develop a year from now on the p-squad.
Hunt was solid, except for the low snap and whiffing a little in the run game. I thought he looked more in command than Lewis and better in pass pro. Overall, Hunt was fine; it was just that Britt looked awesome and way more explosive.
Poole looked OK at RT. He allowed a few pressures but looked more under control than he did a year ago. I think he has an outside chance to make the roster if they ditch Webb.
They already gave you your well deserved props upthread what more are you looking for? :mrgreen:firebee":3eedmfzo said:What??? Who's this Bradley Sowell guy you guys are talking about???EverydayImRusselin":3eedmfzo said:Kudos. You really nailed that bargain FA pick. I don't recall who it was or else I'd give a shout out.
MizzouHawkGal":1ufzvjrn said:They already gave you your well deserved props upthread what more are you looking for? :mrgreen:firebee":1ufzvjrn said:What??? Who's this Bradley Sowell guy you guys are talking about???EverydayImRusselin":1ufzvjrn said:Kudos. You really nailed that bargain FA pick. I don't recall who it was or else I'd give a shout out.
Just be happy that it looks like Britt doesn't look like a waste and the OL is actually average. Average is all we need with Wilson at the helm and 14-2/15-1 and a likely Superbowl berth.
Then he should go to an Asian Massage Parlor instead of a football site.chris98251":23txz6rr said:MizzouHawkGal":23txz6rr said:They already gave you your well deserved props upthread what more are you looking for? :mrgreen:firebee":23txz6rr said:What??? Who's this Bradley Sowell guy you guys are talking about???EverydayImRusselin":23txz6rr said:Kudos. You really nailed that bargain FA pick. I don't recall who it was or else I'd give a shout out.
Just be happy that it looks like Britt doesn't look like a waste and the OL is actually average. Average is all we need with Wilson at the helm and 14-2/15-1 and a likely Superbowl berth.
Some want more then a few strokes here and there, selfish bastards always looking for a Happy Ending.
We'll have a better idea if you're right after the next two weeks.CodeWarrior":27exki2j said:I'll play the foil. I think Sowell proves inadequate as a starter come the regular season.
Agreed.Attyla the Hawk":hn701ci2 said:At best, I think the starting OT's grade should be incomplete.
The interior guys were tested more, playing against quality NFL players. But there really isn't anything to glean from this game as far as the tackles are concerned. The only test we're likely to see is this Thursday in that regard. Dallas is garbage on the edge and Oakland will be resting a lot.
We really won't get a good sense of where the OTs are at until the first real game.
HawKnPeppa":2f3tv5ly said:Agreed.Attyla the Hawk":2f3tv5ly said:At best, I think the starting OT's grade should be incomplete.
The interior guys were tested more, playing against quality NFL players. But there really isn't anything to glean from this game as far as the tackles are concerned. The only test we're likely to see is this Thursday in that regard. Dallas is garbage on the edge and Oakland will be resting a lot.
We really won't get a good sense of where the OTs are at until the first real game.
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