Vikings rookie CB Khyree Jackson killed

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Just saw that on the news. Sucks. Doesn't sound like it was the players' fault from preliminary reports.
 

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"Jackson was the front seat passenger in a Dodge Charger that was being driven by Hazel, with Lytton sat in the back when the crash happened around 3:15 a.m. in Upper Marlboro.

Per the Maryland State Police, the other vehicles involved were a Infiniti Q50 and a Chevrolet Impala, with preliminary information indicating the crash was sparked by the female Infiniti driver who was traveling "at a high rate of speed" and attempting to change lanes when she struck the Charger containing Jackson and the Impala.

"The Charger subsequently traveled off of the right side of the roadway and struck multiple tree stumps where the vehicle came to rest," police said.

The Infiniti driver and two passengers inside were not injured, nor was the Impala driver." --- 👉 https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/poli...ackson-two-high-school-teammates-01j24dkqntpg
 

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Alcohol and speed just after 3am. Nothing good happens after midnight.
I drive this area all the time. Driving in MD has become a circus of speedsters that have zero respect for others.

Sad

Another example that abuse of alcohol and drugs is not a victimless crime.

It's the "MeMeMe" era. I remember when driving an automobile was culturally considered a privilege. I remember community support for the school of defensive driving. I still practice courtesy at intersections with other drivers and pedestrians. I remember when law enforcement was valued.

I think most of the cultures of North America are in decline. There are only pockets of healthy communities left.
 

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I remember when classmates still died from reckless and influenced driving accidents despite all of that cultural goodness.
 

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Even when there's no victim?
Fact: The article clearly identifies, by name, three victims who died at the hands of, a yet to be named, reckless drunk driver.

Opinion: Many who live in a no fault fantasy bubble might dismiss it as just an accident. Others see such lose of life as murder. Three counts of manslaughter i would think. Unless of course, the murderer enjoys some special status of immunity. A possibility given the multiplicity of social standing in a society which lacks the courage to insistence on equal application of the principle of a common law.
 

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How so? Are you suggesting the three dead young men are not victims?
I think he is suggesting that there are lots of other times that people use drugs and alcohol and no one gets hurt. Thus victimless.
 

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That is tragic and sad.

I was hoping to see the young man suit up because he would have been a good fit for Flores defensive style on defense.
 

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Fact: The article clearly identifies, by name, three victims who died at the hands of, a yet to be named, reckless drunk driver.

Opinion: Many who live in a no fault fantasy bubble might dismiss it as just an accident. Others see such lose of life as murder. Three counts of manslaughter i would think. Unless of course, the murderer enjoys some special status of immunity. A possibility given the multiplicity of social standing in a society which lacks the courage to insistence on equal application of the principle of a common law.
Maybe change the channel?

Drunk driving fatalities have decreases a lot in the last 40 years.

 

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Vehicles accidents and fatalities per capita and per vehicle have also decreased substantially since the good old days too.
 

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Maybe change the channel?

Drunk driving fatalities have decreases a lot in the last 40 years.


"Hardcore drunk drivers continue to wreak havoc on our nation’s road accounting for nearly 70% of drunk driving fatalities, where there is a known alcohol-test result for the driver - a trend that has remained relatively unchanged for more than a decade."

"According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, 42,514 people died in traffic crashes in 2022 in the United States (latest figures available), including an estimated 13,524 people who were killed in drunk driving crashes involving a driver with an illegal BAC (.08 or greater). Among the people killed in these drunk driving crashes, an estimated two out of three were in crashes in which at least one driver in the crash had a BAC of .15 or higher." 👉
The statistical gathering source >>> National Highway Traffic Safety Administration 👉 https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/813298
 

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I don’t think anyone disagrees with the raw stats. The problem is when you waxed nostalgic about the good old days of responsible safe defensive driving. The reality is there were more accidents per capita and per car, drunk or otherwise, than there were 30-40 years ago.

Nostalgia isn’t what it used to be.

The irony is that blaming cultural trends actually takes responsibility OFF where it should be. The driver who made the terrible choice that ended lives.
 

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Where I agree it's a tragedy I would argue that something else is much more evident that rarely gets the publicity a Drunk Driving accident and fatality report, Cell Phone caused accidents and deaths, people using Cells out way Drunk drivers by far, evidence of using one equates to a driver who has consumed over the legal limit of alcohol.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) reports that driving while texting is six times more dangerous than driving drunk.
  1. Distracted driving claimed 3,522 lives in 2021. (NHTSA)
  2. As of 2024, 48 states and the District of Columbia have banned texting while driving. (NSC)
  3. Cell phone usage reduces a driver’s attention by as much as 37%. (Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia Research Institute)
  4. In 2015, 42% of high school students admitted that they text or email while driving. (AT&T)
  5. In 2015, 391,000 people were injured due to distracted driving (NHTSA)
  6. In 2018, 400,000 people were injured and 2,800 people died in distracted driving motor vehicle accidents. (NHTSA)
  7. Approximately 660,000 drivers are attempting to use their phones while driving. (NHTSA)
  8. 14% of fatal crashes involve cell phones. (III)
  9. Using a phone while driving causes 1.6 million crashes every year. (NSC)
  10. Drivers who text while operating a vehicle are 23 times more likely to become involved in a car accident. (FCC)
  11. The chances of an accident occurring once a driver’s eyes are taken off the road increase by a staggering 400%. (NSC)
  12. More than 3,000 teens die each year in crashes that involve texting and driving. (III)
I never see the push against Cells like Drinking, you get your license suspended and have to go thru schooling to get it back many times. You have a lock out on your car and have to use a breathalyzer many times to even start it.

Hands free or not you are still distracted let alone texting.
 

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