Geno Isn't the Guy. Sad to Say (Main)

[SonicHawk]

Okay, how's only 17 TD, and 11 picks for a season.

Given Seattle's weapons that is an abysmal pace he is on.

Look, I really want to be upset about that, but we're still 6th in PPG (maybe a little lower after today, but not much). Our running game just hasn't been that productive and our o-line has been injured. Since we mostly run on first downs (bottom 10 in 1st down passes) we often have longer second down plays where we start forcing the ball.

This strategy is fine when we're top 5 in rushing yards per attempt, but we're mid pack.

It's one thing if we could replace Geno with a legitimate top 10 NFL QB, but we can't and we won't be drafting a year 1 starter next year.

 

[Fade]

The point is that it’s a crapshoot. And yes, young QBs play well, but are we going to be in a position to draft them? And just because other drafts had elite QBs drafted later, doesn’t mean there’s one there THIS year. This was the argument going into the last draft of whether or not we should take a QB at 5 because we’d never draft their again. Should we have drafted Levis at 5?

And the Cap Space argument is overrated. Mac Jones and Justin Fields are cheap and how are those teams doing? At some point the poor QB play will negate any advantage the talent additions give you. Plus, there are extensions and restructures open to this team if we need to get under the cap.

This all feels very reactionary. Hurts just lost the game for his team, is he not the answer for the Eagles?

And I am absolutely for drafting a QB to upgrade Geno. If for whatever reason we had a shot at Maye or Williams, I’d take it. But that’s not going to happen. And if there’s another QB that, after due diligence appears to be a long term upgrade, I’d pull the trigger.

But we don’t even know who all is going to declare yet. But we should take a QB anyway? After 1 bad game? We’re not that far removed from Geno putting on a show against Detroit who’s playing lights out right now.

Geno had a bad game. So did Russ when he was here. So do all QBs. I think this team can make a playoff run with Geno. I also think that requires the roster being healthy because he can’t elevate JAGs, just maximize the talent on the field. He’s limited. He’s also an above average starter that we shouldn’t rush to get rid of because the upgrade to Geno is an elite QB, and how many of those are in the league right now?

Geno's having a bad start to the season not just 1 game.

Tack on the 2nd half of last year and you're looking at almost a full season of backup caliber play.

That is not worth $35M APY. Geno has to play better or he won't be here next year.

 

[Fade]

Look, I really want to be upset about that, but we're still 6th in PPG (maybe a little lower after today, but not much). Our running game just hasn't been that productive and our o-line has been injured. Since we mostly run on first downs (bottom 10 in 1st down passes) we often have longer second down plays where we start forcing the ball.

This strategy is fine when we're top 5 in rushing yards per attempt, but we're mid pack.

It's one thing if we could replace Geno with a legitimate top 10 NFL QB, but we can't and we won't be drafting a year 1 starter next year.

The way it's going, they will not be a top scoring team for long, the schedule ratchets up in the 2nd half.

Geno will be gone after this year regardless if he doesn't return to what he did the first half of last season. He's got to stop playing like a backup immediately. The Seahawks can easily cut him and move on if he doesn't.

Don't underestimate JS. He could very well find a yr 1 starter at QB in next year's draft.

 

[Biscanebay12]

Geno gonna Geno, said it before and I'll say it again. Did well enough last year to get paid. There's a reason he's been a career back up.

 

[Xxx]

Geno led the league in turnover worthy plays last year. He had a lot of interception luck and it appears to be running out.

He isn't progressing as a passer, instead a regression back to what he's always been is taking place for everyone to see.

This is very disappointing as he has been surrounded by the most talented offense the Seahawks have ever put on the field.

He just doesn't see the field, he pre-determines where he's going with the ball pre-snap.

If he guesses right? Success, as he is a very talented and accurate thrower.

If he guesses wrong? Disaster. Throwing into coverage, or doesn't pull the trigger for the sack due to not trusting what he is seeing.

This is what he was with the Jets. The Seahawks have better weapons and the rules favor QBs more than back then so his numbers will look better, but this not good.

The Seahawks are at a point where there is no question they must take a QB in the upcoming draft, AND consider moving on from Smith to save CAP as Geno is not worth his ballooning salary numbers going forward.

Totally, despite all Geno’s resurgence he has never had the moxie and will to win at the end. Even back when he came in cause of Russ’s finger, he got to the red zone and fumbled, he is a game manager with the luxury of one of the greatest coaches in the NFL

 

[Fade]

Well Fade said, so the only option is clearly for Geno to retire, effective immediately...

Do you like what you've been seeing from Geno Smith since the TB game from last year?

We have quite the sample size now and it isn't looking good for him.

 

[Xxx]

What annoyed me the most was the lack of creativity and adaptability in the red zone.

What annoyed me is that they tried to throw it deep to DK on every play. Is it Dk or is Geno just incapable of not staring down option 1

 

[cheap580]

When Geno Is Having A Bad Day Why Leave Him In Take Him Out And Put In Drew Lock

 

[TheLegendOfBoom]

Anybody behinds Seattle’s offensive line today would have struggled..

 

[Xxx]

Just got back from Cincinnati. Not sure how Geno looked on TV but, it was bad live.

What the cameras likely didn’t show was JSN not having a defender within 7 yards, waving his arms, finally dropping his hands in disgust from not getting a look.

Definitely should’ve won but, if this Red Zone offense doesn’t improve….it’ll be a long season.

Yeah that’s cause geno loves DK

 

[Xxx]

Anybody behinds Seattle’s offensive line today would have struggled..

I think geno held it too long way too many times

 

[Biscanebay12]

I think geno held it too long way too many times

Geno has a good arm, accurate, the problem is his ability to process, just a little too slow.

 

[Chapow]

No, that is not what I'm saying.

I want each guy used optimally.

Walker between the 20s preferably on outside runs where he can use his speed and agility.

Zach on 3rd down as the better pass catcher and blocker.

Zach on goaline and short yardage.

Walker is tied for 3rd most rushing TD's in the NFL this season behind only McCaffrey (who has waaay more attempts) and Mostert (who is playing on a team putting up otherworldly offensive numbers), and you want them to stop giving him touches in the red zone so they can give those touches to someone else. Gotcha.

I disagree.

 

[Xxx]

Yeah and I think he is first read option only, hence the pump fakes and picks on forces to DK.

 

[12forlife]

I don't necessarily disagree with this take. Geno was always a bridge guy.

Thoughts on the QB's coming out this year (2024)? Outside of Caleb. Do you have your eye on anyone?

My guy is JJ McCarthy, but I am also liking Ewers & Leonard. Penix is older, with injury history, Nix is also interesting but also is older.

 

[BigMeach]

This board wavers more than the flags on the field goal when it's swirling outside...

When your oline is playing backups of backups what are you supposed to do? I've seen the best qb of all time look mediocre in similar circumstances. Do I think Geno is the answer? No of course not never thought he was. But he is serviceable while we get our ducks in a row. Better than RW that's for sure. Oh wait, that's right we weren't supposed to trade RW we were supposed to get rid of PC? Right...

 

[12forlife]

Anybody behinds Seattle’s offensive line today would have struggled..

Not true! Geno has regressed to the point to where he he just flat locks on one WR, and can't read the field or other options. It's becoming pathetic, by NFL standards. Wait until after 49ers twice, Philly & Dallas run, and we're not 500, my guess is Geno has such a bad run, Drew Lock will be starting week 12-17.

 

[SNDavidson]

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[nanomoz]

Not sure how you feel that way. Seattle won in all the stats except turnovers. The offense was driving up and down the field, but a few bad mistakes lost the game.

Turnovers is a big one. Geno should have been picked 3 or 4 times. Burrow completed about 20 consecutive passes. And we benefitted from a couple of big drops on third down. Cincy also seemed to let off the gas at strange times.

 

[CactusJack]

My guy is JJ McCarthy, but I am also liking Ewers & Leonard. Penix is older, with injury history, Nix is also interesting but also is older.

Are you a Michigan fan?

If we're gonna target a QB, I would try to trade up for Drake Maye. Chicago could end up with the top 2 picks. In that case, make a deal for the 2nd pick.

I also like Penix. But he doesn't have the upside of Maye.

Leonard is more of an athlete than QB imo.