4D Chess Play Calling

[Shanegotyou11]

Probably one of the worst play calls anyone could make on 4th down with the game on the line

Worked vs the rams. I did quote a cpl former NFL players. Seems like execution.

 

[hawk45]

Reading some of the analysis, the playcall itself wasn’t necessarily fatal, it was that it being Parsons on that side and also their edges collapsing instantly so deejay couldn’t get out on the route borked it.

It also seemed that they believed Parsons would peel in that sitch, with the blitz on. If he peels, it looks a lot different.

Was it stupid to guess peel? Dunno, depends on what they’d put on tape in similar situations.

What I would say is that even if Parsons DOES peel, I’m not filled with confidence deejay wins that coverage matchup or gets 2 yards even if he does catch the ball.

Waldron guessed right all game long, not there, but it’s not as cut and dried as him believing parsons would come for the QB and saying oh well.

(Generally I hate Waldron, for the record)

 

[nanomoz]

Probably one of the worst play calls anyone could make on 4th down with the game on the line

Against the best edge in the NFL.

Mind-numbingly stupid.

 

[pittpnthrs]

Wow. Talk about getting too cute.

O-3 on fourth downs in the fourth quarter. Hawks ham ample opportunities but folded in crunch time.

But it was the refs fault they lost i've been told.

 

[pittpnthrs]

And won 0 superbowls with seattle

He did more with less talent though.

 

[pittpnthrs]

Never said he was. You tried putting words in my mouth. Holmgren was a great coach. He still won 0 rings for us while Pete won a SB. Those are the facts.

Pete wouldn't have won with Bill Leavy's crew calling the game either.

 

[RolandDeschain]

Reading some of the analysis, the playcall itself wasn’t necessarily fatal, it was that it being Parsons on that side and also their edges collapsing instantly so deejay couldn’t get out on the route borked it.

It also seemed that they believed Parsons would peel in that sitch, with the blitz on. If he peels, it looks a lot different.

Was it stupid to guess peel? Dunno, depends on what they’d put on tape in similar situations.

What I would say is that even if Parsons DOES peel, I’m not filled with confidence deejay wins that coverage matchup or gets 2 yards even if he does catch the ball.

Waldron guessed right all game long, not there, but it’s not as cut and dried as him believing parsons would come for the QB and saying oh well.

(Generally I hate Waldron, for the record)

My favorite play calls are the ones that require all players on the field to execute perfectly.

 

[cymatica]

Worked vs the rams. I did quote a cpl former NFL players. Seems like execution.

Sure worked on the Rams with Charb, not on 4th down with the game on the line and a zero blitz leaving the top edge rusher unblocked with freaking DJ Dallas. You don't run a high risk play like that, with zero room for error and only 1 option to a 3rd string rb, with the game on the line. That's basic situational awareness

 

[cymatica]

And won 0 superbowls with seattle

The NFL decided who was going to win that game, even though Worthlessburger had 123 yds and 2 picks

 

[Shanegotyou11]

He did more with less talent though.

Did he?

 

[Shanegotyou11]

Sure worked on the Rams with Charb, not on 4th down with the game on the line and a zero blitz leaving the top edge rusher unblocked with freaking DJ Dallas. You don't run a high risk play like that, with zero room for error and only 1 option to a 3rd string rb, with the game on the line. That's basic situational awareness

They did same play and same setup minus charb.

 

[Shanegotyou11]

Pete wouldn't have won with Bill Leavy's crew calling the game either.

They would have like 10-3.

 

[pittpnthrs]

They would have like 10-3.

Lol. If you say so.

 

[Shanegotyou11]

Lol. If you say so.

Yep i will. Holmgrens teams were also softer. They couldnt even get up for 10am games.

 

[pittpnthrs]

Yep i will. Holmgrens teams were also softer. They couldnt even get up for 10am games.

Yeah, they were softer which defends one of my points. Pete Carroll would not have gotten that team to the Super Bowl while Holmgren would have won multiple titles with the 2013-2014 roster.

Also, I don't care what team showed up, the NFL was not going to allow the Steelers to lose that game in Detroit being Bettis's swan song. They just weren't.

 

[Shanegotyou11]

Yeah, they were softer which defends one of my points. Pete Carroll would not have gotten that team to the Super Bowl while Holmgren would have won multiple titles with the 2013-2014 roster.

Also, I don't care what team showed up, the NFL was not going to allow the Steelers to lose that game in Detroit being Bettis's swan song. They just weren't.

Yea i will disagree with you. I have a feeling you dislike PC so you have a biased opinion.

 

[cymatica]

They did same play and same setup minus charb.

I don't care if it worked against a different opponent with a much worse defense, not on 4th down with the game on the line, leaving the best edge unblocked. Two completely different situations. There's really zero excuse for running that play at that time, a play that requires perfect execution with only 1 option to a 3rd string rb.

 

[Maelstrom787]

Yeah, they were softer which defends one of my points. Pete Carroll would not have gotten that team to the Super Bowl while Holmgren would have won multiple titles with the 2013-2014 roster.

Also, I don't care what team showed up, the NFL was not going to allow the Steelers to lose that game in Detroit being Bettis's swan song. They just weren't.

Thats the rub. Holmgren wouldn't have been able to manage a roster full of volatile personalities like that.

 

[pittpnthrs]

Yea i will disagree with you. I have a feeling you dislike PC so you have a biased opinion.

Fair enough

 

[pittpnthrs]

Thats the rub. Holmgren wouldn't have been able to manage a roster full of volatile personalities like that.

Your right. They would have been disciplined.