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MadSweeney":3owqwo6x said:
AbsolutNET":3owqwo6x said:
MadSweeney":3owqwo6x said:
CANHawk":3owqwo6x said:
You guys are deluded about a lawsuit. He did it all to himself and has no one to blame but himself.

he did what exactly to himself? Missed a bunch of piss tests while he was employed in Canada for 4 years?
No, he failed one after 3 years in the NFL and getting tested over 200 times before he came up positive. Do you understand that? He was getting tested several times a month. He knew he was getting tested all the time and that that is not normal. He knew he was being tested and he still went and blazed up. You guys are venting on an issue that is irrelevant instead of venting on the responsible party, Brandon Browner. Yeah, it's a crappy rule but that should've been taken care of when he was newly back to the league, not years later and after he got caught.

Act like Seahawk fans, not Niner fans blaming everybody else. Browner screwed us. Anger should start and stop with him and only him.

The point is, he has not reached enough failed tests to be suspended a whole year and have his career ruined. He is being suspended because he didn't attend counseling while he wasn't even employed by the league and had his level aggravated due to it.

No, he's suspended because despite being tested several times a month, he decided to imbibe and run the risk of failing a test that he knew coming. At best he might be able to claim that he thought it would only be a 4 game, but he still knew that a positive test meant suspension. He should've cleared up the missed tests years ago when he had to start taking so many tests, not after he got popped.

You guys are like abused women not pressing charges against the husband that socked you. Browner is the bad guy in this, not Goodell. i hate him as much as anyone in here, but he has everything on his side and it's all on the up and up. it's an easy case-closed issue. Browner knew he was getting tested and he smoked. Period.
You could have saved a lot of typing by just posting "I love Roger Goodell"!
Another Rogfanboy, wonderful! :roll:
 

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Scottemojo":229sfsto said:
Cranking the suspension up to indefinite smacks of a legal tactic to get him to try and take the last offer.
Yep, and yet another violation of the CBA, the NFL and Rog's continued arrogance is going to cost them some serious dough and potentially Rog his job.
 

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If Mike Vick can get in the NFL after jail and felonies im pretty sure BB will be back next year.
 

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Seahawk Sailor":jg9w9f9z said:
"Damned dog pissed on the carpet today. Take 'em out back and shoot 'em." - Roger Goodell

But the dog that just killed a baby goes without it's dinner for a night.
 

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The Outfield":2qgrybg8 said:
What a fricken shame. The NFL sucks so much these days. Penalties, fines, suspensions, commercials, national broadcasts, and touchbacks galore.
Out of all things you mentioned, touch backs is the biggest travesty. Whoever thought moving kicks up 5 yards would solve st injuries is a moron and did nothing but piss me off on a personal level.
 

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Well, well, well,.....

It looks like the league feels it's public reputation is more important than actually being right. I expect that Browner is going to sue the league within 24 hours.

Pass the popcorn. This is gonna be good....

At any rate Mr Silver deserves to be both fired and sued into the poor house for defamation of character......
 

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Idiot question. But who exactly or what people/person decides the fate of a player? Certainly this can't come from one person that makes it final. If under appeal, who decides, the NFL lawyers to confirm if it will stick when handing down suspensions. Are the NFL policies clearly written? Based on how they handle other violations in the league, they are not so clearly defined? Guess it may come down to a court to decide if there was fairness and evidence to support a ban if it goes there.

The NFL is not your typical corporation or noncorporation, it would seem.
 

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dontbelikethat":3w2cxgqj said:
ParisPC07":3w2cxgqj said:
If Maxwell were better he would have been starting.

Probably, but it's like if Trufant didn't get hurt, Sherman wouldn't of started in his rookie year. So it's not always the case. To say the least though, if anything, the drop off from Browner to Maxwell isn't that much if any.
#1 Browner, #2 Thurmond, and Maxwell was # 3 on the depth chart.
#2 Thurmond was given the first shot at playing in Browners absence, and Maxwell came in third place.
 

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For people who know and im not one of them. Could the players off of this cancel the current cba stating that the league has no intention of following it. And to that point the nfl runs on the a monopoly exemption. Could browner talking his case to federal court. Mess with that exemption?
 

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Bprez3":3nyz4frw said:
https://twitter.com/710espnseattle/status/413454517946966016
Oh my, this should get really interesting fast. Thank goodness the dropoff to Maxwell is minimal if any. Just different strengths. And Thurmond is back next week.
 

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Largent80":2jlgymt1 said:
MadSweeney":2jlgymt1 said:
CANHawk":2jlgymt1 said:
MadSweeney":2jlgymt1 said:
You guys are deluded about a lawsuit. He did it all to himself and has no one to blame but himself.

he did what exactly to himself? Missed a bunch of piss tests while he was employed in Canada for 4 years?
No, he failed one after 3 years in the NFL and getting tested over 200 times before he came up positive. Do you understand that? He was getting tested several times a month. He knew he was getting tested all the time and that that is not normal. He knew he was being tested and he still went and blazed up. You guys are venting on an issue that is irrelevant instead of venting on the responsible party, Brandon Browner. Yeah, it's a crappy rule but that should've been taken care of when he was newly back to the league, not years later and after he got caught.

Act like Seahawk fans, not Niner fans blaming everybody else. Browner screwed us. Anger should start and stop with him and only him.

Get off the high horse. You are coming off as an uniformed opinionated jackass when you know NOTHING of the circumstances, except for a very few press releases or tweets.

Just because his opinion isn't the same as the majority doesn't make him a jackass.
 

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When the process is being perverted yes he is because THAT information is public unlike most of the rest. The NFL is trying apply the rules in a ridiculous and most like illegal fashion.This is move to pressure Browner into a plea bargain basically.
 

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ImTheScientist":21rifioa said:
Just because his opinion isn't the same as the majority doesn't make him a jackass.

You're right. Painting his opinion as fact, does however...
 

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E.C. Laloosh":1deowvwu said:
ImTheScientist":1deowvwu said:
Just because his opinion isn't the same as the majority doesn't make him a jackass.

You're right. Painting his opinion as fact, does however...

As is painting everyone who disagrees with him as a blind homer.
 

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Either way the process has been perverted from the start continuing right up to this "indefinite" stupidity. Hence the reason this will go to court and likely turn out badly for for the NFL (as they deserve if they continue with their interpretation of the rules of what constitutes a level 3 offender).
 

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KCHawkGirl":2t01fyz9 said:
Either way the process has been perverted from the start continuing right up to this "indefinite" stupidity. Hence the reason this will go to court and likely turn out badly for for the NFL (as they deserve if they continue with their interpretation of the rules of what constitutes a level 3 offender).

Despite what many say, the "indefinitely" verbiage is simply how it's written (as I understand it) in the policy. It's "indefinitely" with the earliest possible chance to return being at least 1 year later.

The report that the suspension was escalated to "indefinitely" may just be the reporter not understanding the original language. As a matter of fact, it's considered a ban of at least one year.

http://images.nflplayers.com/mediaResou ... Policy.pdf

See page 18 for stage 3 details.

I might add that this particular paragraph may have quite a bit of discussion in any coming legal proceedings:

Players who are in any of the Intervention Stages are required to provide the Medical
Advisor and the Medical Director with an address and telephone number where they can
be reached at all times
, and the Medical Advisor shall attempt to notify the player using
the method that is reasonably calculated to provide notice to the player in a timely
manner. Any notice required to be provided to a player under this Policy will be deemed
to be delivered on the earlier of (1) four business days after mailing by regular mail to the
address either provided by the player pursuant to this Section or maintained by the
player’s club, or (2) actual delivery or notice which for purposes of this Policy shall be
deemed to have occurred at the time that a voice mail is left at the telephone number 20 (2010)
provided by a player or that a Federal Express or other similar means of overnight
delivery, waiving signature, is delivered to the address provided by a player

Maybe this one as well...

A player who enters the Intervention Stages will remain in the Intervention Stages
until the player is dismissed or released in accordance with the terms set forth
herein. All such players must continue to comply with the conditions of the
Intervention Program. Notwithstanding the foregoing, (1) a player who is released
and who has not been on a club roster for more than six consecutive regular or
post season games (“Never-Rostered Player”) is not required to comply...

Regarding reinstatement (and this is the really absurd part)...

After the completion of the one-year banishment
period, the Commissioner, in his sole discretion, will
determine if and when the player will be allowed to return
to the NFL
. A player’s failure to adhere to his Treatment
Plan during his banishment will be a significant
consideration in the Commissioner’s decision of whether to
reinstate a player. A player seeking reinstatement must
meet certain clinical requirements as determined by the
Medical Director and other requirements as set forth in
Appendix B.
 
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