SoulfishHawk
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The drama is strong, this is far from the worst thing that could have happened to the Hawks.
vin.couve12":2tpm0b6x said:Hey, hey, meow...we almost always come out on top when trading with the Eagles. Watch that 5th rounde4 turn into a nice pass rusher as a rook and starter down the road.
I'm not sugarcoating anything. Anyone who thinks that we were getting anything of value for Bennett was delusional. Bennett didn't have a lot of value to begin with, and his value was hurt even more because of his off the field antics.RCATES":q6c9yf5p said:JimmyG":q6c9yf5p said:In fairness, veteran players almost never bring in good trade hauls. Bennett is still a good player, but he was 33 and had off the field concerns. Remember when Anquan Boldin and a ridiculous playoffs en route to a SB, and then was traded for a 6th round pick the ensuing a couple months later?RCATES":q6c9yf5p said:Hawks always get worked on trades. JS is not the genius we claim he is. This is the beginning of the end fella's. I got hammered on here for saying it a month ago. Come eat your crow.
Don't sugar coat it. MB is still 32 and Hawks got worked yet again. It's outright cringeworthy how bad they have been in trades.
"Eagles traded a 7 and Matt Tobin to Seattle for a 5. Seattle than traded a 7 and Michael Bennett for a 5 and Marcus Johnson.
The Eagles basically traded Matt Tobin and Marcus Johnson for Michael Bennett, lol."
Seahawkfan80":3p4f31id said:I just wonder who the Eagles have on their roster to fill in for half the plays that Bennett should not be on the field for. If they play Green Bay, they will need a speed cart to get Bennet off the field sooner as AR will take it to him a lot.
TwistedHusky":2xpbwd10 said:True.
We still are waiting on that that annual bad FA signing for high dollars that happens every year for a player you would trade at the end of the year for a half eaten sandwich - just to get rid of him.
I am on pins and needles as to who our next Cary Williams, Lacey or Joekel is going to be. I have no idea who it is, but it is coming.
Meanwhile we lost a productive pass rusher that made our other guys productive because they had to concentrate on him.
No it isn't the worst. But it isn't good news.
xkj1985x":21lnaz08 said:Seahawkfan80":21lnaz08 said:I just wonder who the Eagles have on their roster to fill in for half the plays that Bennett should not be on the field for. If they play Green Bay, they will need a speed cart to get Bennet off the field sooner as AR will take it to him a lot.
Eagles have Fletcher Cox and Timmy Jernigan as well as Elijah Qualls (UW!) who will see more reps this year. I think Bennett is used as a 3rd downs situational guy.
Eagles will still have Brandon Graham/Derek Barnett/Chris Long on the EDGE.
Cable was involved with that one and that's the only time Cable has been involved in a Hawks Eagles trade. Cable loooved Tobin...moron.xkj1985x":ty65ky8z said:vin.couve12":ty65ky8z said:Hey, hey, meow...we almost always come out on top when trading with the Eagles. Watch that 5th rounde4 turn into a nice pass rusher as a rook and starter down the road.
I mean, the 5th round pick that the Eagles traded today for Bennett was traded from Seattle to Philly in the Matt Tobin deal so I think we can say who won that one (Tobin).
Eagles basically got Michael Bennett and a 7th for Matt Tobin and Marcus Johnson.
xStickybudz":1bgppn51 said:mrt144":1bgppn51 said:xStickybudz":1bgppn51 said::irishdrinkers:hawksincebirth":1bgppn51 said:FIRE JOHN SCHNEIDER HE IS A IDIOT
I can’t tell if this is sarcasm..... trading a aging asset that is battling injury is good GMing. I dunno if you watched Bennett last year but that man looks done
He had an off year with a foot injury and was still better than average. The foot injury casts doubt on forward performance but he hardly looked 'done' and i defy you to provide an analysis where he is anything but average at worst.
K? and John Schneider should be fired for trading a aging asset that is battling injury? Regardless if he was average or not you can’t keep everyone and as much as I loved Michael he is on the wrong side of 30 and eventually you need to cut ties to pay younger players
xStickybudz":1vl4eb37 said::irishdrinkers:hawksincebirth":1vl4eb37 said:FIRE JOHN SCHNEIDER HE IS A IDIOT
I can’t tell if this is sarcasm..... trading a aging asset that is battling injury is good GMing. I dunno if you watched Bennett last year but that man looks done
MontanaHawk05":1c9ttg2a said:Everyone wanted to be the Patriots. They forgot that the Patriots don't get first rounders for everyone they offload.
JimmyG":2bmqhrby said:I'm not sugarcoating anything. Anyone who thinks that we were getting anything of value for Bennett was delusional. Bennett didn't have a lot of value to begin with, and his value was hurt even more because of his off the field antics.RCATES":2bmqhrby said:JimmyG":2bmqhrby said:In fairness, veteran players almost never bring in good trade hauls. Bennett is still a good player, but he was 33 and had off the field concerns. Remember when Anquan Boldin and a ridiculous playoffs en route to a SB, and then was traded for a 6th round pick the ensuing a couple months later?RCATES":2bmqhrby said:Hawks always get worked on trades. JS is not the genius we claim he is. This is the beginning of the end fella's. I got hammered on here for saying it a month ago. Come eat your crow.
Don't sugar coat it. MB is still 32 and Hawks got worked yet again. It's outright cringeworthy how bad they have been in trades.
"Eagles traded a 7 and Matt Tobin to Seattle for a 5. Seattle than traded a 7 and Michael Bennett for a 5 and Marcus Johnson.
The Eagles basically traded Matt Tobin and Marcus Johnson for Michael Bennett, lol."
I think JS has had some terrible trades but this one I don't think fits that category. I am far from a JS apologist.
RCATES":1vuy4eb2 said:JimmyG":1vuy4eb2 said:I'm not sugarcoating anything. Anyone who thinks that we were getting anything of value for Bennett was delusional. Bennett didn't have a lot of value to begin with, and his value was hurt even more because of his off the field antics.RCATES":1vuy4eb2 said:JimmyG":1vuy4eb2 said:In fairness, veteran players almost never bring in good trade hauls. Bennett is still a good player, but he was 33 and had off the field concerns. Remember when Anquan Boldin and a ridiculous playoffs en route to a SB, and then was traded for a 6th round pick the ensuing a couple months later?
Don't sugar coat it. MB is still 32 and Hawks got worked yet again. It's outright cringeworthy how bad they have been in trades.
"Eagles traded a 7 and Matt Tobin to Seattle for a 5. Seattle than traded a 7 and Michael Bennett for a 5 and Marcus Johnson.
The Eagles basically traded Matt Tobin and Marcus Johnson for Michael Bennett, lol."
I think JS has had some terrible trades but this one I don't think fits that category. I am far from a JS apologist.
I disagree. We have to pay MB 5 million of his 7 this year. Basically keeping him on the roster for just this year would have cost us a additional 2mil. 8.5sacks and the Pro Bowl when he played half the year with a bad toe. A injury many said would sideline most players. Hawks D-Line take a huge hit to save 2mil. Meanwhile Philly unloads a 5th and a practice squad WR for a 2mil dollar pro bowler. This front office has been downright terrible the last few years.