Best offense has looked in a long time

[xray]

Curb your enthusiasm . 6-10 record ,with half the wins courtesy of Jax-Houston-Lions . Doesn't exactly render a ' woodie '.

 

[Jville]

The Tribe of Negativity just can't stand anyone finding elements of joy in any game.

Must be a living Hell. :229031_shrug:

 

[GeekHawk]

I just looked up all the Lions' scores this year. **Nobody* else put up 50+ points on them. The iggles and forty-whiners scored 44 and 41 respectively, and even the vaunted green bays only scored 35. Pretty much the same Detroit D in every game, I would think.

OTOH, only the forty-whiners and tards allowed them to score more points than we did, and the viqueens allowed the same points (33, 30, and 29 points respectively).

I would say that against a common opponent, our O is really good when being called correctly and there is no hope for our D with this DC. That last part is for way more than this game though...

 

[Jville]

Encouraged to follow up a positive point, I invested a few moments to count the number of explosive plays the Seahawks offense had during the Detroit game.

Pete Carroll and his staff have long since defined explosive plays as follows: a run play which gains 12 or more yards or a pass play which gains 16 or more yards.

Rashaad Penny had 5 explosive runs while Russell Wilson was on the throwing side of 5 explosive passes. IIRC that's the kind of balance that pleases the staff.

 

[imnKOgnito]

Putting 50 points up on any team in the NFL is a big deal. Everyone wants the caveat that it was the Lions, but given how big the explosion was, I'm still impressed.

I think a lot of people are underestimating the perfect storm that was in place for this season. Waldron was always going to struggle as a first year OC calling plays, and learning to work with Pete probably isn't easy. Sunday, though, looked like a good marriage of Pete Ball with Waldron's offense and I liked what I saw. Guess we'll see if they can replicate the same kind of scheme against the AZ D.

All this said, even when things weren't going so smoothly I was still encouraged by the use of the TE's and the fact there WERE backs available for check down even when Wilson wasn't taking them. When Wilson injured a finger on his throwing hand, that pretty much tossed the season out the window. If we get to this point of development in week 8 instead of week 16, we're in the playoffs, and the doom and gloom coming even from key players themselves about the future might be taking a different turn. All of these things make me really want so see what this group intact can do next season. If it flops, I really don't care if it took one more year to blow it up. The pieces are in place, so let's give it one more run.

 

[John63]

Encouraged to follow up a positive point, I invested a few moments to count the number of explosive plays the Seahawks offense had during the Detroit game.

Pete Carroll and his staff have long since defined explosive plays as follows: a run play which gains 12 or more yards or a pass play which gains 16 or more yards.

Rashaad Penny had 5 explosive runs while Russell Wilson was on the throwing side of 5 explosive passes. IIRC that's the kind of balance that pleases the staff.

Yes but.it was the first time we saw the Waldron offense for a whole game. The question is will we again or was that a 1 off and we go back to the same old same old.

 

[Jville]

Encouraged to follow up a positive point, I invested a few moments to count the number of explosive plays the Seahawks offense had during the Detroit game.

Pete Carroll and his staff have long since defined explosive plays as follows: a run play which gains 12 or more yards or a pass play which gains 16 or more yards.

Rashaad Penny had 5 explosive runs while Russell Wilson was on the throwing side of 5 explosive passes. IIRC that's the kind of balance that pleases the staff.

Yes but.it was the first time we saw the Waldron offense for a whole game. The question is will we again or was that a 1 off and we go back to the same old same old.

:177692: Nonsense.

It's worked wonderful for decades. It's a timeless feature of a balanced Seattle offense. Shawn Alexander, among others, was excellent at delivering explosive running plays.

 

[toffee]

It was like week 1.

Going into this game Seattle ranked bottom 3 in the league in pre-snap motion. Which shows they really deviated most of the year from the offense they ran week 1.

It was all back. Pre snap motion, outside zone, boot action. Attacking all levels of the field. Getting d-lineman going sideways rather than pinning their ears back.

Maddening. WTF, Pete! You could've been running this the whole year. Playing the Lions made it look even better, but still.

Not just a narrative, but the truth. All you had to do was watch the games to see this.

:34853_doh: Ya got to pay attention to injuries and roster churn and the week to week differences in the strengths and weaknesses of opponents. It's not a board game. Real live match ups are always changing.

Pay Attention

Nailed it, but wait for folks to rebut with lines like Waldron wasn't allowed to call his plays, by Pete of course.

 

[pittpnthrs]

It was like week 1.

Going into this game Seattle ranked bottom 3 in the league in pre-snap motion. Which shows they really deviated most of the year from the offense they ran week 1.

It was all back. Pre snap motion, outside zone, boot action. Attacking all levels of the field. Getting d-lineman going sideways rather than pinning their ears back.

Maddening. WTF, Pete! You could've been running this the whole year. Playing the Lions made it look even better, but still.

Not just a narrative, but the truth. All you had to do was watch the games to see this.

:34853_doh: Ya got to pay attention to injuries and roster churn and the week to week differences in the strengths and weaknesses of opponents. It's not a board game. Real live match ups are always changing.

Pay Attention

Come on man, crawl out from under that rock. An offense doesnt do an about face for an entire season after the first game due to injuries, roster churn, and week to week differences by the opponent. An offense does do an about face when a head coach comes out and publicly announces that the OC is on board now with how he wants things ran after the first game though and the offense reverts back to the same old tired, predictable garbage we see every year once 'Pete Ball' is instilled.

Pay attention indeed.

 

[John63]

Encouraged to follow up a positive point, I invested a few moments to count the number of explosive plays the Seahawks offense had during the Detroit game.

Pete Carroll and his staff have long since defined explosive plays as follows: a run play which gains 12 or more yards or a pass play which gains 16 or more yards.

Rashaad Penny had 5 explosive runs while Russell Wilson was on the throwing side of 5 explosive passes. IIRC that's the kind of balance that pleases the staff.

Yes but.it was the first time we saw the Waldron offense for a whole game. The question is will we again or was that a 1 off and we go back to the same old same old.

:177692: Nonsense.

It's worked wonderful for decades. It's a timeless feature of a balanced Seattle offense. Shawn Alexander, among others, was excellent at delivering explosive running plays.

Well since I said Waldron common sense says I am talking about this year.

 

[John63]

It was like week 1.

Going into this game Seattle ranked bottom 3 in the league in pre-snap motion. Which shows they really deviated most of the year from the offense they ran week 1.

It was all back. Pre snap motion, outside zone, boot action. Attacking all levels of the field. Getting d-lineman going sideways rather than pinning their ears back.

Maddening. WTF, Pete! You could've been running this the whole year. Playing the Lions made it look even better, but still.

Not just a narrative, but the truth. All you had to do was watch the games to see this.

:34853_doh: Ya got to pay attention to injuries and roster churn and the week to week differences in the strengths and weaknesses of opponents. It's not a board game. Real live match ups are always changing.

Pay Attention

Come on man, crawl out from under that rock. An offense doesnt do an about face for an entire season after the first game due to injuries, roster churn, and week to week differences by the opponent. An offense does do an about face when a head coach comes out and publicly announces that the OC is on board now with how he wants things ran after the first game though and the offense reverts back to the same old tired, predictable garbage we see every year once 'Pete Ball' is instilled.

Pay attention indeed.

This^^^^;

 

[Jville]

It was like week 1.

Going into this game Seattle ranked bottom 3 in the league in pre-snap motion. Which shows they really deviated most of the year from the offense they ran week 1.

It was all back. Pre snap motion, outside zone, boot action. Attacking all levels of the field. Getting d-lineman going sideways rather than pinning their ears back.

Maddening. WTF, Pete! You could've been running this the whole year. Playing the Lions made it look even better, but still.

Not just a narrative, but the truth. All you had to do was watch the games to see this.

:34853_doh: Ya got to pay attention to injuries and roster churn and the week to week differences in the strengths and weaknesses of opponents. It's not a board game. Real live match ups are always changing.

Pay Attention

Come on man, crawl out from under that rock. An offense doesnt do an about face for an entire season after the first game due to injuries, roster churn, and week to week differences by the opponent. An offense does do an about face when a head coach comes out and publicly announces that the OC is on board now with how he wants things ran after the first game though and the offense reverts back to the same old tired, predictable garbage we see every year once 'Pete Ball' is instilled.

Pay attention indeed.

The churning of game plans. Player roster churn. Coaching roster churn. Scouting roster churn. Every season of every year is different.

So sorry your unable to keep up with current events.

 

[toffee]

It was like week 1.

Going into this game Seattle ranked bottom 3 in the league in pre-snap motion. Which shows they really deviated most of the year from the offense they ran week 1.

It was all back. Pre snap motion, outside zone, boot action. Attacking all levels of the field. Getting d-lineman going sideways rather than pinning their ears back.

Maddening. WTF, Pete! You could've been running this the whole year. Playing the Lions made it look even better, but still.

Not just a narrative, but the truth. All you had to do was watch the games to see this.

:34853_doh: Ya got to pay attention to injuries and roster churn and the week to week differences in the strengths and weaknesses of opponents. It's not a board game. Real live match ups are always changing.

Pay Attention

Come on man, crawl out from under that rock. An offense doesnt do an about face for an entire season after the first game due to injuries, roster churn, and week to week differences by the opponent. An offense does do an about face when a head coach comes out and publicly announces that the OC is on board now with how he wants things ran after the first game though and the offense reverts back to the same old tired, predictable garbage we see every year once 'Pete Ball' is instilled.

Pay attention indeed.

Let me pull a J63 on ya: Got link to Pete saying OC is on board now?

 

[John63]

Not just a narrative, but the truth. All you had to do was watch the games to see this.

:34853_doh: Ya got to pay attention to injuries and roster churn and the week to week differences in the strengths and weaknesses of opponents. It's not a board game. Real live match ups are always changing.

Pay Attention

Come on man, crawl out from under that rock. An offense doesnt do an about face for an entire season after the first game due to injuries, roster churn, and week to week differences by the opponent. An offense does do an about face when a head coach comes out and publicly announces that the OC is on board now with how he wants things ran after the first game though and the offense reverts back to the same old tired, predictable garbage we see every year once 'Pete Ball' is instilled.

Pay attention indeed.

The churning of game plans. Player roster churn. Coaching roster churn. Scouting roster churn. Every season of every year is different.

So sorry your unable to keep up with current events.

But the offense except for a few games here and there has stayed the same since PC has been here.

 

[John63]

Not just a narrative, but the truth. All you had to do was watch the games to see this.

:34853_doh: Ya got to pay attention to injuries and roster churn and the week to week differences in the strengths and weaknesses of opponents. It's not a board game. Real live match ups are always changing.

Pay Attention

Come on man, crawl out from under that rock. An offense doesnt do an about face for an entire season after the first game due to injuries, roster churn, and week to week differences by the opponent. An offense does do an about face when a head coach comes out and publicly announces that the OC is on board now with how he wants things ran after the first game though and the offense reverts back to the same old tired, predictable garbage we see every year once 'Pete Ball' is instilled.

Pay attention indeed.

Let me pull a J63 on ya: Got link to Pete saying OC is on board now?

It's been posted on this forum before go find it.

 

[pittpnthrs]

Not just a narrative, but the truth. All you had to do was watch the games to see this.

:34853_doh: Ya got to pay attention to injuries and roster churn and the week to week differences in the strengths and weaknesses of opponents. It's not a board game. Real live match ups are always changing.

Pay Attention

Come on man, crawl out from under that rock. An offense doesnt do an about face for an entire season after the first game due to injuries, roster churn, and week to week differences by the opponent. An offense does do an about face when a head coach comes out and publicly announces that the OC is on board now with how he wants things ran after the first game though and the offense reverts back to the same old tired, predictable garbage we see every year once 'Pete Ball' is instilled.

Pay attention indeed.

The churning of game plans. Player roster churn. Coaching roster churn. Scouting roster churn. Every season of every year is different.

So sorry your unable to keep up with current events.

Lol. An entire offense just doesnt change after the very first game for the entirety of the season due to those reasons. There will be similarities along the way regardless. After the first game, the tempo and motion were gone. The team resorted back to the old familiar 'Pete Ball' formula again. How can you consider yourself a fan of this team and be so blind to that?

 

[Jville]

:34853_doh: Ya got to pay attention to injuries and roster churn and the week to week differences in the strengths and weaknesses of opponents. It's not a board game. Real live match ups are always changing.

Pay Attention

Come on man, crawl out from under that rock. An offense doesnt do an about face for an entire season after the first game due to injuries, roster churn, and week to week differences by the opponent. An offense does do an about face when a head coach comes out and publicly announces that the OC is on board now with how he wants things ran after the first game though and the offense reverts back to the same old tired, predictable garbage we see every year once 'Pete Ball' is instilled.

Pay attention indeed.

The churning of game plans. Player roster churn. Coaching roster churn. Scouting roster churn. Every season of every year is different.

So sorry your unable to keep up with current events.

But the offense except for a few games here and there has stayed the same since PC has been here.

That's a myth.

I've seen many many changes thru out the decade. Expand the scope of your observations. Look beyond the play of one or two favorite players. A possible avenue to discovery is available by reviewing all the personnel changes. The coaching changes. Plus the huge impact the competition committee and points of emphasis the league itself has had on the offense. Examine the "Big Picture".

 

[justafan]

Come on man, crawl out from under that rock. An offense doesnt do an about face for an entire season after the first game due to injuries, roster churn, and week to week differences by the opponent. An offense does do an about face when a head coach comes out and publicly announces that the OC is on board now with how he wants things ran after the first game though and the offense reverts back to the same old tired, predictable garbage we see every year once 'Pete Ball' is instilled.

Pay attention indeed.

The churning of game plans. Player roster churn. Coaching roster churn. Scouting roster churn. Every season of every year is different.

So sorry your unable to keep up with current events.

But the offense except for a few games here and there has stayed the same since PC has been here.

That's a myth.

I've seen many many changes thru out the decade. Expand the scope of your observations. Look beyond the play of one or two favorite players. A possible avenue to discovery is available by reviewing all the personnel changes. The coaching changes. Plus the huge impact the competition committee and points of emphasis the league itself has had on the offense. Examine the "Big Picture".

Christ its like whak-a- mole. Myth is a kind word to use.

 

[Palmegranite]

:34853_doh: Ya got to pay attention to injuries and roster churn and the week to week differences in the strengths and weaknesses of opponents. It's not a board game. Real live match ups are always changing.

Pay Attention

Come on man, crawl out from under that rock. An offense doesnt do an about face for an entire season after the first game due to injuries, roster churn, and week to week differences by the opponent. An offense does do an about face when a head coach comes out and publicly announces that the OC is on board now with how he wants things ran after the first game though and the offense reverts back to the same old tired, predictable garbage we see every year once 'Pete Ball' is instilled.

Pay attention indeed.

The churning of game plans. Player roster churn. Coaching roster churn. Scouting roster churn. Every season of every year is different.

So sorry your unable to keep up with current events.

Lol. An entire offense just doesnt change after the very first game for the entirety of the season due to those reasons. There will be similarities along the way regardless. After the first game, the tempo and motion were gone. The team resorted back to the old familiar 'Pete Ball' formula again. How can you consider yourself a fan of this team and be so blind to that?

That's my recollection of the season too. First game was Wow! Then, well you know.

 

[justafan]

Whak!