Colin kaepernick gets contract extension

[DavidSeven]

Looks like Kap asked for a small signing bonus so that the 49ers will have room to sign Crabtree..

And to SoulfishHawk, a fellow Hawk fan of yours whined first about the Candlestick loss. I don't walk around complaining.

Not sure how that will help sign Crabtree. A small signing bonus just means his cap numbers are pushed higher in later years. At some point, the $60M guaranteed has to be accounted for. Of course, they can toy with both of their numbers to make things workable, but the small bonus in itself doesn't complete the job.

Either way, they probably could have fit in Crabtree if they really wanted him. The question is can they squeeze in Crabree, Iupat, re-do Davis, re-do Boone, etc., etc...

 

[SoulfishHawk]

It's the way it should be, the hate between the two teams is what makes it fun. Clearly they were the best 2 teams in football last year.

 

[Front7vLOB]

Looks like Kap asked for a small signing bonus so that the 49ers will have room to sign Crabtree..

And to SoulfishHawk, a fellow Hawk fan of yours whined first about the Candlestick loss. I don't walk around complaining.

Not sure how that will help sign Crabtree. A small signing bonus just means his cap numbers are pushed higher in later years. At some point, the $60M guaranteed has to be accounted for. Of course, they can toy with both of their numbers to make things workable, but the small bonus in itself doesn't complete the job.

Either way, they probably could have fit in Crabtree if they really wanted him. The question is can they squeeze in Crabree, Iupat, re-do Davis, re-do Boone, etc., etc...

You seem to be more knowledgeable than me on this stuff..

I am just trying to decide if these two tweets by Schefter are linked, or if they are just separate musings..

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 14m

Most unique aspect of Colin Kaepernick’s new deal: it contains $12 million in signing bonus, whereas most big QB deals are $24-$40 million.

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 14m

Colin Kaepernick specifically requested his deal allow 49ers flexibility to negotiate extensions with players such as WR Michael Crabtree.

 

[Marvin49]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 60s

Most unique aspect of Colin Kaepernick’s new deal: it contains $12 million in signing bonus, whereas most big QB deals are $24-$40 million.

oops...beat me to it.

 

[Seahawk Sailor]

I gotta hand it to him for the signing bonus aspect of it. I don't think he's worth nearly that deal, but at least he was smart enough to allow it structured well enough to get the money to other players they needed to pay.

 

[rideaducati]

Damn, this contract is gonna make EVERYONE forget about the Kolb contract when it comes to bad QB contracts.

I couldn't be more happy knowing the niners are stuck with a bad QB for several more years and will be less able to sign good players to put around him..

 

[Marvin49]

Damn, this contract is gonna make EVERYONE forget about the Kolb contract when it comes to bad QB contracts.

I couldn't be more happy knowing the niners are stuck with a bad QB for several more years and will be less able to sign good players to put around him..

...I have to at least give you points for consistency.

 

[rideaducati]

Damn, this contract is gonna make EVERYONE forget about the Kolb contract when it comes to bad QB contracts.

I couldn't be more happy knowing the niners are stuck with a bad QB for several more years and will be less able to sign good players to put around him..

...I have to at least give you points for consistency.

I took all consistency points from chokernick, that's why he's not consistent at all.

 

[Front7vLOB]

Damn, this contract is gonna make EVERYONE forget about the Kolb contract when it comes to bad QB contracts.

I couldn't be more happy knowing the niners are stuck with a bad QB for several more years and will be less able to sign good players to put around him..

...I have to at least give you points for consistency.

Regardless if you think Kap is a good QB or not, reports have said Kap was going to get $20m a year. He ends up getting $18m a year.

So, I don't know why people are acting dumbfounded. A large contract was expected. In fact, the dude accepted a pretty reasonable deal. Again, Kap might not be a SB quarterback, but he is only 26 and is the 5th highest paid QB in the league.. Not too bad all things considered.

 

[Front7vLOB]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 53s

Since Colin Kaepernick’s 1st start in 2012, he’s 3rd-highest rated QB w/ total QBR of 69.6, trailing only Manning (83.3) and Rodgers (71.3).

 

[DavidSeven]

Looks like Kap asked for a small signing bonus so that the 49ers will have room to sign Crabtree..

And to SoulfishHawk, a fellow Hawk fan of yours whined first about the Candlestick loss. I don't walk around complaining.

Not sure how that will help sign Crabtree. A small signing bonus just means his cap numbers are pushed higher in later years. At some point, the $60M guaranteed has to be accounted for. Of course, they can toy with both of their numbers to make things workable, but the small bonus in itself doesn't complete the job.

Either way, they probably could have fit in Crabtree if they really wanted him. The question is can they squeeze in Crabree, Iupat, re-do Davis, re-do Boone, etc., etc...

You seem to be more knowledgeable than me on this stuff..

I am just trying to decide if these two tweets by Schefter are linked, or if they are just separate musings..

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 14m

Most unique aspect of Colin Kaepernick’s new deal: it contains $12 million in signing bonus, whereas most big QB deals are $24-$40 million.

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 14m

Colin Kaepernick specifically requested his deal allow 49ers flexibility to negotiate extensions with players such as WR Michael Crabtree.

A smaller signing bonus does give them a bit more flexibility in moving the numbers around. But it also means his average-per-year has to be higher in later years.

Sometimes a big signing bonus is helpful to a team's cap. Sometimes the opposite is true. It really depends on the team's cap situation and when they need to start paying other players. But Schefter is right in that it does give them some degree of flexibility.

 

[rideaducati]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 53s

Since Colin Kaepernick’s 1st start in 2012, he’s 3rd-highest rated QB w/ total QBR of 69.6, trailing only Manning (83.3) and Rodgers (71.3).

He should thank Trent Dilhole for coming up with a rating system for QB's that emphasizes running so much.

 

[Scottemojo]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 53s

Since Colin Kaepernick’s 1st start in 2012, he’s 3rd-highest rated QB w/ total QBR of 69.6, trailing only Manning (83.3) and Rodgers (71.3).

Kaepernick is a good player. But QBR is an ESPN joke.

 

[Throwdown]

QBR? The espn stat they made up? Lolololololololol boy staaaaaahp

 

[Front7vLOB]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 53s

Since Colin Kaepernick’s 1st start in 2012, he’s 3rd-highest rated QB w/ total QBR of 69.6, trailing only Manning (83.3) and Rodgers (71.3).

He should thank Trent Dilhole for coming up with a rating system for QB's that emphasizes running so much.

While I think the rating system is flawed, it's not like Kap ran all that much last season.

But, yeah, QBR isn't a very good tool to judge QB play

 

[SalishHawkFan]

Football Outsiders is reporting 6 years, $110 million. Not the $126 the OP posted.

 

[Front7vLOB]

Sometimes a big signing bonus is helpful to a team's cap. Sometimes the opposite is true. It really depends on the team's cap situation and when they need to start paying other players. But Schefter is right in that it does give them some degree of flexibility.

Thanks for clarifying. Sounds like we can't really judge this contract for at least a few more seasons.

SalishHawkFan, I would think the 126 is the correct number.

 

[Scottemojo]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 53s

Since Colin Kaepernick’s 1st start in 2012, he’s 3rd-highest rated QB w/ total QBR of 69.6, trailing only Manning (83.3) and Rodgers (71.3).

He should thank Trent Dilhole for coming up with a rating system for QB's that emphasizes running so much.

While I think the rating system is flawed, it's not like Kap ran all that much last season.

But, yeah, QBR isn't a very good tool to judge QB play

In the playoff loss he posted a QBR of 65, just below his career average. With three turnovers.

QBR is dogshit.

 

[Front7vLOB]

In the playoff loss he posted a QBR of 65, just below his career average. With three turnovers.

QBR is dogshit.

I thought he played well in the playoffs. He won two away games against formidable opponents (I don't think GB's defense was even remotely good, but that weather and that stadium is tough to play in), and almost won in the CLink..

I'm confused how he didn't play up to par

 

[JZ#1]

How you play against the Seahawks is the barometer for how good of a player you are. I am shocked they haven't cut that trash Peyton Manning yet.