So I got another 'I wonder' moment today while using the urinal - always the best place to be when thinking about the Schotty. So it came to me pretty easily - I wonder where the Seahawks rank in terms of YAC.
Why would I be curious about this? Well, I have a hunch that one of the more ailing aspects of our offense is passing (okay, I didn't really go out on a limb there, did I?) but I was curious where the smoke in the forest is coming from.
Some things to get out of the way:
RW Net Yards Per Attempt / Rank
2018: 6.39 (Schotty) / 17th
2017: 6.11 (Bevell on Down) / 17th
2016: 6.65 / 11th
2015: 7.73 / 4th
2014: 6.54 / 17th
2013: 6.84 / 7th
2012: 6.84 / 9th
STL QB Net Yards Per Attempt -
2014: 6.24 (Hill) / 20th
2014: 5.82 (Davis) / 30th
2013: 5.84 (Clemens) / 23rd
2013: 5.74 (Bradford) / 26th
2012: 5.92 (Bradford) / 23rd
NYJ QB Net Yards Per Attempt
2011: 5.55 (Sanchez) / 27th
2010: 5.84 (Sanchez) / 29th
2009: 5.77 (Sanchez) / 21st
2008: 5.90 (Favre) / 20th
2007: 4.83 (Pennington) / 24th
2007: 5.02 (Clemens) / 30th
2006: 6.17 (Pennington) / 13th
Alright, so we've covered QBs under Schotty, and whatever you think is the biggest cause of mediocre at best is over his career, just know that Schotty tied to any one QB is mediocre.
So let's look at this from another perspective, the WR corps specifically what may or may not be happening vis a vis YAC and YAC per reception. Why the YAC per reception as well? Believe it or not (believe it!) there are several teams with a low absolute YAC that have a high YAC per reception relative to other teams. Also I'll append the rank for the year for both and also include the league average for both.
YAC / YAC Per Reception / League Average YAC / League Average YAC Per Reception/ Rank YAC / Rank YAC per Reception
Hawks:
2018: 781 / 4.91 / 1165 / 5.51 / 31st / 23rd
2017: 1583 / 4.66 / 1776 / 5.23 / 25th / 25th
2016: 1833 / 4.98 / 1824 / 5.05 / 17th / 17th
2015: 1826 / 5.48 / 1892 / 5.25 / 20th / 11th
2014: 1850 / 6.45 / 1856 / 6.45 / 17th / 2nd
2013: 1529 / 5.73 / 1834 / 5.29 / 28th / 6th
2012: 1024 / 4.94 / 1706 / 5.04 / 29th / 18th
2011: 1498 / 5.01 1739 / 5.29 / 21st / 22nd
2010: 1538 / 4.75 / 1709 / 5.22 / 23rd / 21st
2009: 2054 / 5.52 / 1661.9 / 5.08 / 5th / 8th
2008: 987 / 3.77 / 987 / 3.77 / 32nd / 32nd
2007: 1786 / 4.81 / 1520 / 4.66 / 5th / 14th
2006: 1024 / 3.51 / 1473 / 4.8 / 30th / 32nd
Rams:
2014: 1727/ 5.28 / 1856 / 5.31 / 23rd / 17th
2013: 1620 / 5.38 / 1834 / 5.29 / 24th / 15th
2012: 1585 / 4.77 / 1706 / 5.04 / 22nd / 21st
Jets:
2011: 1622 / 5.23 / 1739 / 5.29 / 20th / 17th
2010: 1378 / 4.73 / 1709 / 5.22 / 29th / 29th
2009: 1042 / 4.96 / 1661.9 / 5.0875 / 31st / 18th
2008: 1590 / 4.58 / 1391 / 4.41 / 8th / 10th
2007: 1316 / 4.25 / 1520 / 4.66 / 25th / 27th
2006: 1391 / 4.4 / 1473 / 4.8 / 21st / 28th
So that's a lot of numbers and I'll try to add some context.
Schotty has only ever commanded an offense that was above average on Yards after Catch once - in 2008 with Favre at QB. Favre's NY/A was easily within 1 Standard Deviation of Mean Jets QB Performance but the YAC was nearly 1 Standard Deviation above Mean Jets YAC but only half a Standard Deviation above the combined Jets Rams Standard Deviation. So a relatively small blip on an ontherwise consistently below average passing game measured in two ways by the relative performance of the QBs and the YACs under his stead.
But let's go back up to the top. One thing you might notice right away is that RW has never dropped below 17th in NY/A and even peaked at 4th. 2015. I think we know that back half was huge there and we all have some ideas about why it worked then. Even so the YAC didnt vary that much as time wore on and passing volume went up. I included the Pre RW years just to get an eyeball comparison for YAC when Schotty was actively coaching in the NFL. The variance is mind boggling.
So I have a few questions:
1. How much of Schotty's mediocrity is attributable to him and how much to the seemingly abundantly average players he's been surrounded with?
2. How much of our YAC mediocrity is attributable to PC, Bevell and the player talent?
3. How could Pete possibly have hired anyone else for OC?
Other fun things!
Do you think it's a coincidence that the Rams under McVay were near the very top last season and currently top 5 or that the Chiefs since 2016 have always been top 5? Or the Saints?
Even if I'm off the mark in thinking that this hints that what we do on offense has Pete's fingerprints all over it, I think it was pretty bad to hire someone that seemingly will reinforce things that we lack in the passing game while being neutral to negative in other aspects like time management and pacing towards the end of games.
It seems to me that how you actually design a passing game matters to some extent and that's reflected not only over the relative stickiness of some teams (although again that varaince of the mid '00 Hawks is crazy) but how someone could consistently perform in a band with longish tenures.
I pulled most of this from Football Outsiders but the YAC data was a pain in the ass pulling from a few sources.
Why would I be curious about this? Well, I have a hunch that one of the more ailing aspects of our offense is passing (okay, I didn't really go out on a limb there, did I?) but I was curious where the smoke in the forest is coming from.
Some things to get out of the way:
RW Net Yards Per Attempt / Rank
2018: 6.39 (Schotty) / 17th
2017: 6.11 (Bevell on Down) / 17th
2016: 6.65 / 11th
2015: 7.73 / 4th
2014: 6.54 / 17th
2013: 6.84 / 7th
2012: 6.84 / 9th
STL QB Net Yards Per Attempt -
2014: 6.24 (Hill) / 20th
2014: 5.82 (Davis) / 30th
2013: 5.84 (Clemens) / 23rd
2013: 5.74 (Bradford) / 26th
2012: 5.92 (Bradford) / 23rd
NYJ QB Net Yards Per Attempt
2011: 5.55 (Sanchez) / 27th
2010: 5.84 (Sanchez) / 29th
2009: 5.77 (Sanchez) / 21st
2008: 5.90 (Favre) / 20th
2007: 4.83 (Pennington) / 24th
2007: 5.02 (Clemens) / 30th
2006: 6.17 (Pennington) / 13th
Alright, so we've covered QBs under Schotty, and whatever you think is the biggest cause of mediocre at best is over his career, just know that Schotty tied to any one QB is mediocre.
So let's look at this from another perspective, the WR corps specifically what may or may not be happening vis a vis YAC and YAC per reception. Why the YAC per reception as well? Believe it or not (believe it!) there are several teams with a low absolute YAC that have a high YAC per reception relative to other teams. Also I'll append the rank for the year for both and also include the league average for both.
YAC / YAC Per Reception / League Average YAC / League Average YAC Per Reception/ Rank YAC / Rank YAC per Reception
Hawks:
2018: 781 / 4.91 / 1165 / 5.51 / 31st / 23rd
2017: 1583 / 4.66 / 1776 / 5.23 / 25th / 25th
2016: 1833 / 4.98 / 1824 / 5.05 / 17th / 17th
2015: 1826 / 5.48 / 1892 / 5.25 / 20th / 11th
2014: 1850 / 6.45 / 1856 / 6.45 / 17th / 2nd
2013: 1529 / 5.73 / 1834 / 5.29 / 28th / 6th
2012: 1024 / 4.94 / 1706 / 5.04 / 29th / 18th
2011: 1498 / 5.01 1739 / 5.29 / 21st / 22nd
2010: 1538 / 4.75 / 1709 / 5.22 / 23rd / 21st
2009: 2054 / 5.52 / 1661.9 / 5.08 / 5th / 8th
2008: 987 / 3.77 / 987 / 3.77 / 32nd / 32nd
2007: 1786 / 4.81 / 1520 / 4.66 / 5th / 14th
2006: 1024 / 3.51 / 1473 / 4.8 / 30th / 32nd
Rams:
2014: 1727/ 5.28 / 1856 / 5.31 / 23rd / 17th
2013: 1620 / 5.38 / 1834 / 5.29 / 24th / 15th
2012: 1585 / 4.77 / 1706 / 5.04 / 22nd / 21st
Jets:
2011: 1622 / 5.23 / 1739 / 5.29 / 20th / 17th
2010: 1378 / 4.73 / 1709 / 5.22 / 29th / 29th
2009: 1042 / 4.96 / 1661.9 / 5.0875 / 31st / 18th
2008: 1590 / 4.58 / 1391 / 4.41 / 8th / 10th
2007: 1316 / 4.25 / 1520 / 4.66 / 25th / 27th
2006: 1391 / 4.4 / 1473 / 4.8 / 21st / 28th
So that's a lot of numbers and I'll try to add some context.
Schotty has only ever commanded an offense that was above average on Yards after Catch once - in 2008 with Favre at QB. Favre's NY/A was easily within 1 Standard Deviation of Mean Jets QB Performance but the YAC was nearly 1 Standard Deviation above Mean Jets YAC but only half a Standard Deviation above the combined Jets Rams Standard Deviation. So a relatively small blip on an ontherwise consistently below average passing game measured in two ways by the relative performance of the QBs and the YACs under his stead.
But let's go back up to the top. One thing you might notice right away is that RW has never dropped below 17th in NY/A and even peaked at 4th. 2015. I think we know that back half was huge there and we all have some ideas about why it worked then. Even so the YAC didnt vary that much as time wore on and passing volume went up. I included the Pre RW years just to get an eyeball comparison for YAC when Schotty was actively coaching in the NFL. The variance is mind boggling.
So I have a few questions:
1. How much of Schotty's mediocrity is attributable to him and how much to the seemingly abundantly average players he's been surrounded with?
2. How much of our YAC mediocrity is attributable to PC, Bevell and the player talent?
3. How could Pete possibly have hired anyone else for OC?
Other fun things!
Do you think it's a coincidence that the Rams under McVay were near the very top last season and currently top 5 or that the Chiefs since 2016 have always been top 5? Or the Saints?
Even if I'm off the mark in thinking that this hints that what we do on offense has Pete's fingerprints all over it, I think it was pretty bad to hire someone that seemingly will reinforce things that we lack in the passing game while being neutral to negative in other aspects like time management and pacing towards the end of games.
It seems to me that how you actually design a passing game matters to some extent and that's reflected not only over the relative stickiness of some teams (although again that varaince of the mid '00 Hawks is crazy) but how someone could consistently perform in a band with longish tenures.
I pulled most of this from Football Outsiders but the YAC data was a pain in the ass pulling from a few sources.